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#41 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:12 am

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....Remember Joe Bartosik?....
Fortunately I never knew him! I arrived at Culdrose in early '64 just after Bartosik left there and Chico Roberts had taken over as Captain.
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#42 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:30 am

I see that the Captain Bligh that C16 notes above, once confined his second in command to his quarters, under arrest, which didn't stop his subordinate from going on to captain the first British Polaris nuclear submarine...

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#43 Post by Boac » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:48 am

Bartosik would appear to confirm the Peter principle.

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#44 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:30 am

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Bartosik would appear to confirm the Peter principle.
Surely that would have been the Piotr principle in Bartosik's case! :)
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#45 Post by Boac » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:37 am

:YMAPPLAUSE: Peter, of course, was Canadian, so possibly Le principe Pierre?

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#46 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat May 02, 2020 8:09 am

Another one from Navy Wings. I am also a Duxford Supporter and must say that they are not half as active as the Navy folk in drumming up enthusiasm and support. As ever, consider donating or becoming a supporter...

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#47 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri May 15, 2020 12:53 pm

Another day another excellent article from Navy Wings...


Malcolm Smith joined the Royal Navy as an Artificer Apprentice in 1956 and is the Editor of Jabberwock, the quarterly magazine of the Society of Friends of the Fleet Air Arm Museum (SOFFAAM) and has inherited the complete archive of editions dating back to the formation of the Society in 1979. In browsing through these, he realised that they provided a unique archive of reminiscence of the men and women who served in, or have been associated with, the Fleet Air Arm since its formation in 1924. His book: “Voices in Flight – the Fleet Air Arm” which can be purchased in our Flight Store, consists entirely of anecdotes from this archive.

How I shot myself down - https://navywings.org.uk/portfolio/how- ... self-down/

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#48 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu May 21, 2020 11:21 am

Prompted by that last Navy Wings article I purchased the following book which I am still reading.
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Highly recommended and all profits go to keeping the FAA aircraft in the care of the Fly Navy Heritage Trust flying.

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#49 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu May 21, 2020 3:30 pm

Apropos the exciting things one can learn from the exciting book noted above...

What was was the first British landplane specifically designed for carrier operations?
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#50 Post by ian16th » Thu May 21, 2020 8:18 pm

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Apropos the exciting things one can learn from the exciting book noted above...

What was was the first British landplane specifically designed for carrier operations?
Blackburn Buccaneer?
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#51 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu May 21, 2020 8:24 pm

ian16th wrote:
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TheGreenGoblin wrote:
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Apropos the exciting things one can learn from the exciting book noted above...

What was was the first British landplane specifically designed for carrier operations?
Blackburn Buccaneer?
You know Ian that was my answer but behold...

Twas the Sopwith Cuckoo

And, the first man to land on deck of a carrier was a South African in a Sopwith Pup...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... d-40791496

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#52 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri May 29, 2020 1:59 pm

Another tale from the Navy Wings folks...

Although it all turned out OK in the end, Henry Mitchell’s crash of a Sea Harrier in Monmouthshire in May 1991 wasn’t quite as cut and dried as reported in the press. What transpired was a particular conspiration of events that led to much confusion around who had crashed that day and how. Until now, this story has only been told in bars around the bazaars whenever old Sea Harrier mates get together…let me explain.

On that fateful day in May, five Sea Harriers of 801 squadron were planned to take part in a low-level Simulated Attack Profile (SAP) on targets in Wales and Herefordshire. The attack element was led by Clive Baylis with Henry as his #2 and Paul Simmonds Short (or SS for short) as his #3. I was to lead a pair of Sea Harriers designated as the ‘bounce’ which meant we would act as enemy air defence and try to shoot down the 3 Sea Harriers conducting the attack.

SAPs are a tricky proposition…flying at 250 feet above the ground at 420 knots is hard work at the best of times but if throw into the mix another aircraft trying to shoot you down whilst you’re at it, the pressure quickly mounts to make this one of the hardest evolutions a fast jet multi-role pilot can undertake... <<read on>>

Henry Mitchell’s crash of a Sea Harrier in Monmouthshire in May 1991
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#53 Post by ian16th » Fri May 29, 2020 2:17 pm

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
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Another tale from the Navy Wings folks...

Although it all turned out OK in the end, Henry Mitchell’s crash of a Sea Harrier in Monmouthshire in May 1991 wasn’t quite as cut and dried as reported in the press. What transpired was a particular conspiration of events that led to much confusion around who had crashed that day and how. Until now, this story has only been told in bars around the bazaars whenever old Sea Harrier mates get together…let me explain.

On that fateful day in May, five Sea Harriers of 801 squadron were planned to take part in a low-level Simulated Attack Profile (SAP) on targets in Wales and Herefordshire. The attack element was led by Clive Baylis with Henry as his #2 and Paul Simmonds Short (or SS for short) as his #3. I was to lead a pair of Sea Harriers designated as the ‘bounce’ which meant we would act as enemy air defence and try to shoot down the 3 Sea Harriers conducting the attack.

SAPs are a tricky proposition…flying at 250 feet above the ground at 420 knots is hard work at the best of times but if throw into the mix another aircraft trying to shoot you down whilst you’re at it, the pressure quickly mounts to make this one of the hardest evolutions a fast jet multi-role pilot can undertake... <<read on>>

Henry Mitchell’s crash of a Sea Harrier in Monmouthshire in May 1991
Any info on just where this happened?

I used to reside close to the Hereford/Monmouth border.
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#54 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri May 29, 2020 2:22 pm

ian16th wrote:
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Any info on just where this happened?

I used to reside close to the Hereford/Monmouth border.
Cdr Henry Mitchell ejected from his Royal Navy Sea Harrier over Wentwood Forest near Llanvair Discoed, Monmouthshire, in May 1991.
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#55 Post by CharlieOneSix » Fri May 29, 2020 2:23 pm

It happened at Wentwood Forest near Llanvair Discoed, Monmouthshire.
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#56 Post by Boac » Fri May 29, 2020 2:28 pm

.....and SS pitched up at Gatwick on 737s.

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#57 Post by ian16th » Fri May 29, 2020 2:36 pm

Quite close to Llanwern Steel Works, they were a customer of mine!

There was a pub just to the north of the works, did a very good faggot & peas at lunchtime!
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