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#301 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:53 am

A dairy themed purchase is the delight in this week's Navy Wings newsletter! I couldn't find any evidence of the payment in cheese but that might be my hard cheese for lack of diligence!
At the end of the war, the Canadian government purchased three Majestic class carriers from Harland and Wolff for the RCN. They were paid for by their displacement weight in Canadian Cheddar cheese.
Canadian cheese had built up in storage during the war years due to lack of markets.

The Uk needed the cheese! They didn’t need more carriers! The carriers were delivered in reverse order to when their keels were laid down.Warrior was the first to deliver with Seafires and Fireflies aboard.

Magnificent, or “Maggie” as she was known, was next after paying off Warrior. She carried Sea Furies (my aircraft) and Avengers. Last to arrive was Bonaventure, and regrettably our last, carried Grumman Trackers and Banshees. All carried whirlybirds for AS and plane guard'.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Bonaventure

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The Navy Wings Stinson Reliant and Wasp will be at Shuttleworth at the Old Warden Aerodrome this Saturday as a static display.

Subject to weather and serviceability.
Sadly the weather forecast for the day is utterly atrocious!

TAF EGGW 012301Z 0200/0224 17005KT 9999 SCT040
BECMG 0206/0209 16015KT
TEMPO 0209/0217 6000 RA BKN010
PROB40 TEMPO 0212/0217 16018G28KT 3000 +RA BKN004
BECMG 0217/0220 26010KT
PROB40 TEMPO 0217/0221 3000 DZ BR BKN002


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I suspect that some here might be able to name the carrier here...


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#302 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:49 am

That's an old WW2 style 'island' so probably not Bulwark or Albion, a guess at Theseus. With the straight rather than cranked rear fuselage on the Whirwinds, plus the angled rear stabilisers, they are probably HAR 1's around the mid 50's, either an exercise in loading troops or possibly the Suez crisis.
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#303 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:03 am

CharlieOneSix wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:49 am
That's an old WW2 style 'island' so probably not Bulwark or Albion, a guess at Theseus. With the straight rather than cranked rear fuselage on the Whirwinds, plus the angled rear stabilisers, they are probably HAR 1's around the mid 50's, either an exercise in loading troops or possibly the Suez crisis.
As ever, you are on the money C16! :-bd

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#304 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:00 am

Pity I couldn't find a bigger image of Theseus off Cape Town harbour...

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#305 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:54 pm

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
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....As ever, you are on the money C16! :-bd
I've surprised myself there, TGG! Just informed guesses when I was passing quickly through here earlier on.
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#306 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:37 am

In this week's Navy Wings... absolutely sublime! ^:)^

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#307 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:54 am

Is that a genuine photograph?

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#308 Post by CharlieOneSix » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:25 am

Also in this weeks Navy Wings email....
By any 3 items in the Navy Wings Fright store and receive 10% off your total order.
Deliberate mistake or just a typo..? Early Halloween stock perhaps..
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#309 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:38 am

G-CPTN wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:54 am
Is that a genuine photograph?
It is G-PCTN.

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An impressive formation of Royal Naval aircraft near RNAS Brawdy on 27th September 1967. Left to right: Hunter T8 no. XF942 (pilot Lt. R.E.M. Woolley RN, 2nd pilot F/Lt. Kirkham RAF), Hunter GA11 no. WV374, a Scimitar, a Sea Vixen FAW2 and two Gannets. (© Crown Copyright)


http://www.woolleyfamily.co.uk/FAA_intro.htm

There are some absolutely wonderful photographs here provided by Bob Woolley's son...

http://www.woolleyfamily.co.uk/FAA.htm

A sad story in the end... :(
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#310 Post by CharlieOneSix » Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:13 pm

What a wonderful tribute from Mark Woolley to his father.
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#311 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:33 pm

CharlieOneSix wrote:
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What a wonderful tribute from Mark Woolley to his father.
I agree. I took the liberty of contacting Mark Woolley and thanking him for his wonderful site and for sharing his memories of his father.
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#312 Post by FD2 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:50 pm

GG - I've probably posted these before but just in case...Bonaventure was caught in a severe storm on her way back to Halifax from the Med. It was/is remembered as 'Bonnie's Storm' in the RCN/CAF.



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#313 Post by FD2 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:54 pm

Agree - a very moving account of his father's career by Mark Wooley. I read another account recently of someone's near miss with a Meteor and the problems of flying it with asymmetric thrust after an engine failure.

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#314 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:38 am

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
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An impressive formation of Royal Naval aircraft near RNAS Brawdy on 27th September 1967. Left to right: Hunter T8 no. XF942 (pilot Lt. R.E.M. Woolley RN, 2nd pilot F/Lt. Kirkham RAF), Hunter GA11 no. WV374, a Scimitar, a Sea Vixen FAW2 and two Gannets. (© Crown Copyright)
Tut tut, two Gannets! Clearly a Mk5 and a Mk4.

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#315 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:54 am

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:38 am
TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:38 am

An impressive formation of Royal Naval aircraft near RNAS Brawdy on 27th September 1967. Left to right: Hunter T8 no. XF942 (pilot Lt. R.E.M. Woolley RN, 2nd pilot F/Lt. Kirkham RAF), Hunter GA11 no. WV374, a Scimitar, a Sea Vixen FAW2 and two Gannets. (© Crown Copyright)
Tut tut, two Gannets! Clearly a Mk5 and a Mk4.
But this is why we rely on you PN, and while I may smile, I say that with respect! ;)))
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#316 Post by Rossian » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:55 am

The far away one is the ASW version and the nearer one is the AEW version.

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#317 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:59 am

FD2 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:50 pm
GG - I've probably posted these before but just in case...Bonaventure was caught in a severe storm on her way back to Halifax from the Med. It was/is remembered as 'Bonnie's Storm' in the RCN/CAF.


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That second wave is huge. Brings me out in a cold sweat as does this photograph taken from the bridge of a tanker off the east coast of South Africa. Reckoned to be over 100 foot high!

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#318 Post by FD2 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:55 am

As Rossian says - the older ASW version and the later AEW version. The old ASW ones were modified to provide COD service (Carrier Onboard Delivery) - picking up people, mail and stores from ashore.

The old ASW aircraft could not be modified for AEW - they had to be completely re-designed and built from scratch as AEW machines.

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#319 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:41 pm

I remember looking in an AEW in 1964. A canvas sling seat suspended from a wooden pole for the two observers. Little did I realise I would be using the same radar, a hand me down, 17 years later.

Also the RAF Nav observer on that Gannet was on 8 all that time later.

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#320 Post by Boac » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:16 pm

Ah! Anyface. =))

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