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Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:22 pm
by G-CPTN
TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:21 pm
izod tester wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:02 pm
It was beautiful and functional.
Very much 'of its time'.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:08 pm
by PHXPhlyer
Of the 7 Albatrosses built 4 were destroyed in landing accidents. :-o

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Albatross

Aircraft
Faraday

Mail-carrier variant was delivered to Imperial Airways in August 1939 as Faraday and registered G-AEVV. It was transferred to BOAC when it was formed in 1940 but was impressed into Royal Air Force service with serial number AX903 for operation by No. 271 Squadron RAF. It was destroyed in a landing accident at Reykjavik on 11 August 1941.[6][7]
Franklin

Mail-carrier variant was delivered to BOAC as Franklin and registered G-AEVW. Impressed into Royal Air Force Service with the serial number AX904 for operation by 271 Squadron. It was destroyed when the landing gear collapsed on landing at Reykjavik on 7 April 1942.[6][8]
Frobisher

Passenger variant was registered G-AFDI and delivered to Imperial Airways (later BOAC) as Frobisher in 1938. It was destroyed on the ground during a German air attack on Whitchurch Airport on 20 December 1940.[6][9]
Falcon

Passenger variant was registered G-AFDJ and delivered to Imperial Airways (later BOAC) as Falcon in 1938. It was scrapped in September 1943.[6][10]
Fortuna

Passenger variant was registered G-AFDK and delivered to Imperial Airways (later BOAC) as Fortuna in 1939. Destroyed in a crash landing near Shannon Airport, Ireland on 16 July 1943.[6][11]
Fingal

Passenger variant was registered G-AFDL and delivered to Imperial Airways (later BOAC) as Fingal in 1939. Destroyed in a crash landing near Pucklechurch, Gloucestershire, England on 6 October 1940.[6][12]
Fiona

Passenger variant was registered G-AFDM and delivered to Imperial Airways (later BOAC) as Fiona in 1939. It was scrapped in September 1943.[6][13]

Can't exactly see how fit-for-purpose it was unless its purpose was to be destroyed on landing. :ymdevil:

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Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:28 pm
by izod tester
Look beyond the bare "destroyed in a crash landing". G-AFDL was attempting a forced landing with a fractured fuel line and hit a farmhouse. G-AFDK crashed on mud flats near Shannon. A landing gear collapse on landing may have been a problem with the landing gear, or it may have been subjected to a (very) hard landing. Similarly, a"landing accident at Rekjavik" could well have been a handling probem, poor weather or many other factors.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:09 pm
by 1DC
constellation was pretty

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:15 pm
by Undried Plum
The humpback Connie was pretty **** ugly.

Commercially successful in its day, yes, but fugly.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:26 pm
by ian16th
Boeing 314 'Clipper '.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:35 pm
by Undried Plum
A Sunderland, with an extra draggy tail.

Ketchup.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:51 pm
by bob2s
Not forgetting the rotary wing brethren.
The best view from any flying machine

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:16 pm
by CharlieOneSix
+1 bob2s! Great machines, the soundtrack in that video brings it all back!

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:52 pm
by G~Man
Gotta love the way the thread evolved in fling wings.....

This picture is in our company archives---
chopper-digger-pines.jpg
the tail number was kept, N988B and is now on one of our Long Rangers:
HEC 1.jpg
And lets not forget the Huey/Bell/205:
70256375_10215269168862035_6298807880204156928_o.jpg

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:24 am
by PHXPhlyer
My first ride in a helicopter was in a Bell 47. :-bd
Eight or so years old nightime at the county fair.
Thank you Mother. o:-) :YMHUG:

I was watching reruns of the TV show "Whirlybirds".
Anyone remember that one? :-?

PP

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:44 am
by G-CPTN
PHXPhlyer wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:24 am

I was watching reruns of the TV show "Whirlybirds".
Anyone remember that one? :-?
Yes, indeed . . .

Watched it in the mid 1950s - along with the Lone Ranger and the Clampits and other Westerns and Broderick Crawford in Highway Patrol.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:29 am
by PHXPhlyer
Whirlybirds, along with Rip Cord and Everglades!, had almost interchangeable plots.
Two good guys in Bell 47s, parachutes, and airboats, ripping around helping people and outwitting the bad guys. :YMAPPLAUSE:
I found a DVD of "The Whirlybirds" in a thrift store a while back. :-bd

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Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:20 am
by Pontius Navigator
Browsing on from Sunderland I looked up the Empire flying boat. Interesting crew, no flight engineer or wireless operator but it had a flight clerk.

A precursor to Air Quartermaster and then Loadmaster? Perhaps the senior passenger supervisor.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:30 am
by CharlieOneSix
PHXPhlyer wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:29 am
Whirlybirds, .....
Chuck and PT - as a kid they are the guys that got me interested in helicopters. Little did I know at the time that I was to spend 5 happy years flying the 47J model shown at 0:17.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:12 pm
by PHXPhlyer
My Saturday mornings were not complete until after the cartoons, Bugs Bunny, Roadrunner, etc., and finally The Lone Ranger and Sky King.
Sky King even had an affect on Jimmy Buffet. :D
I'll leave it to TGG to provide the connection. ^:)^
I wonder how many 310s Cessna sold thanks to Sky King? :-?

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Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:26 pm
by ian16th
Back on thread:

The Avro Anson.

Must have been something right about them. We built enough of them and used them for long enough.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:47 pm
by Pontius Navigator
And I got a few hours on them too. Remember the Stn Flt, established I believe so non-operational could get currency /qualify for flying pay.

At Coningsby our SFSO, ex-Canberras, was not qualified to fly in the Vulcan so used to use the Anson as did couple of Master Pilots who were Sim Instructors. The SFSO was Harvey Hilliyard. 17 years later I flew with his son Graham Hilliyard.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:13 pm
by TheGreenGoblin
PHXPhlyer wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:12 pm
My Saturday mornings were not complete until after the cartoons, Bugs Bunny, Roadrunner, etc., and finally The Lone Ranger and Sky King.
Sky King even had an affect on Jimmy Buffet. :D
I'll leave it to TGG to provide the connection. ^:)^
I wonder how many 310s Cessna sold thanks to Sky King? :-?

PP
If I remember correctly the ex-USAF pilot who taught Buffet to fly was known as "Sky King"? I remember seeing a documentary on the guy, whose name eludes me for the moment. Cue for a song and an aircraft.


Alabatross.JPG

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:21 pm
by PHXPhlyer
Read his book "A Pirate Looks At Fifty" if you haven't. :-bd

I am disappointed in your Buffet song knowledge. [-X
It is this one. :D



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