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Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:59 am
by TheGreenGoblin
To get the discerning chief pilot's accolade, the Sikorsky S-76 Mark II must have been some machine. I took the liberty of finding out a bit more about the type.

Sikorsky S-76 Mark II

Still going strong.

The corporate version looks to be a good addendum to every successful billionaire's jet fleet but it still seems to be a good work horse too!

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:33 pm
by FD2
Agree with C16 100%. The S76 is great for corporate work and offshore work. The A+ that Bristow used to fly was a good machine but under-powered. The B that KLM used to operate was superbly equipped and had a great amount of reassuring power for those hot, heavy and windless days. Unfortunately it used a bit more fuel so went out of fashion but no doubt that has been fixed with later marks through to the D.


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Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:56 am
by Pontius Navigator
FD2, as those machines go, in flight it does look good. On the ground pick a little less so.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:19 am
by TheGreenGoblin
Pontius Navigator wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:56 am
FD2, as those machines go, in flight it does look good. On the ground pick a little less so.
Beauty is in the the eye of the beholder. The Robinson R44 is beautiful to me! 😍

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:02 am
by Woody
Pontius Navigator wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:56 am
FD2, as those machines go, in flight it does look good. On the ground pick a little less so.
This applies to most heavier than air machines :-bd

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:39 pm
by Pontius Navigator
Woody, you might think that but I could not possibly comment.

Isn't it one of the helicopter principles of flight?

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:41 pm
by Pontius Navigator
TheGreenGoblin wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:19 am
Pontius Navigator wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:56 am
FD2, as those machines go, in flight it does look good. On the ground pick a little less so.
Beauty is in the the eye of the beholder. The Robinson R44 is beautiful to me! 😍
I like egg whisks

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:11 pm
by Undried Plum
The 109 does look rather gorgeous though, doesn't she?

She looks likes she's doing 200kts, even on the ground.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:26 am
by FD2
Undried Plum wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:11 pm
The 109 does look rather gorgeous though, doesn't she?

She looks likes she's doing 200kts, even on the ground.
Bit like an Italian sports car aren't they? Later Agusta machines like the 139 a little less pretty than the 109 but go like greased weasel ***** and lots of power too. My money's still on the 76 for looks and function though.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:58 am
by TheGreenGoblin
Pontius Navigator wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:41 pm

Beauty is in the the eye of the beholder. The Robinson R44 is beautiful to me! 😍
I like egg whisks
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For me, only when they are making big chocolate cakes... :p ;)))

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:05 pm
by Undried Plum
G-CPTN wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:23 am
DH Mosquito.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:05 pm
by Undried Plum

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:31 pm
by FD2
Some 109 chopper porn for you UP! It is a smart little machine.

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The SAS ones used to fly over our house at great speed on their way to or from Hereford in the 1990s.

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Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:42 pm
by CharlieOneSix
FD2 wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:31 pm
.......The SAS ones used to fly over our house at great speed on their way to or from Hereford in the 1990s.....
Weren't two used by the SAS which were the spoils of war from the Falklands conflict? Or maybe they had been replaced by the 90's. A 109 went by here doing warp speed a couple of days ago. A very pretty machine.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:53 pm
by FD2
C16 - Yes - the article says two courtesy of the Argentinians in the Falklands and another two bought, to bring total to four in 8 Flight altogether:

https://www.eliteukforces.info/gallery/ ... copter.php

The only one I saw close up was on the ground at Norwich, being ground taxied at warp speed as well. Very Italian.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:11 am
by Pontius Navigator
I wish I could remember the name and get a picture of a beautiful 4 seat twin jet I saw in a hangar at Bedford. Leather seats, smooth GRP wings, rear mounted engines, intakes about a hands width size.

Now that took my breath away.

Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:58 am
by Woody
Going completely away from aviation :-o. The Gibson Les Paul guitar 🎸

Slightly annoying presenter, but some great examples :-bd



Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:04 pm
by Boac
PN wrote:I wish I could remember the name and get a picture of a beautiful 4 seat twin jet I saw in a hangar at Bedford. Leather seats, smooth GRP wings, rear mounted engines, intakes about a hands width size.
Doesn't quite sound like the Morane-Saulnier MS.760 Paris which used to be at Cranfield for years and had wing/fuselage mounted Turbomeca MarborΓ© engines and 'normal' wings.

More Mozzie porn

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:13 pm
by Undried Plum
As thread starter I should have made clear, not just by example, that I meant aircraft.

Now for some more Mozzie porn:



Re: Best and nicest and most clever and most fit-for-purpose designs

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:48 pm
by Pontius Navigator
Boac wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:04 pm
PN wrote:I wish I could remember the name and get a picture of a beautiful 4 seat twin jet I saw in a hangar at Bedford. Leather seats, smooth GRP wings, rear mounted engines, intakes about a hands width size.
Doesn't quite sound like the Morane-Saulnier MS.760 Paris which used to be at Cranfield for years and had wing/fuselage mounted Turbomeca MarborΓ© engines and 'normal' wings.
Just possible and it might have been Cranfield, CAA examiners there?
The engines however were definitely podded and just a 4 seater though the back seats were full of instruments. The front seats were light tan leather, contoured, and fixed position. Looked really comfortable.