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Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:22 am
by ricardian
THis was posted to the RAF ex-Boy Entrant Group on Facebook today. Can you help?
Help. help. I am working part time for the Australian Air Force Heritage Centre at RAAF Amberley. We have over the past couple of years been in the process of restoring a 1936 built Avro Anson Bomber which was on the inventory of multi Australian Bomber Squadrons and flew from various RAAF Units including Amberley. .. We are at the stage of re-assembling the aircraft. Unfortunately we have no manuals that give precise instructions on a variety of technical processes and procedures. Small items, such as which side of the engine is the oil cooler mounted. Is it on the right hand side for both engines? Is it left hand side for both engines? Is it mounted on the inboard side of both engines, or, the more logical on the out board side of both engines? I last worked on Ansons in 1953 at El Adam. We had one as a Desert Rescue aircraft and from memory we had a power egg (engine and propellor assembled in a stand so that should it ever be necessary to change an engine we would be able to change the complete power unit with minimum delay. Anyone with knowledge on the assembly, their assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thankin you in anticipation, Ex FME No 1 Entry Locking.

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:09 pm
by G-CPTN
Is there not a Haynes manual? :D

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:20 pm
by ian16th
1st Entry?

He is at least 88!

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:37 pm
by G-CPTN

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:32 pm
by izod tester
The best place to get that information would be the Shuttleworth Veteran Aircraft Society. The have an Anson (actually an Avro XIX) at Old Warden.

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 pm
by CharlieOneSix
Anson C19 TX226 which used to be at Coventry with Air Atlantique is now with the Montrose Air Station Heritage Centre. I saw it there last October, just a shell at the start of its rebuild. https://rafmontrose.org.uk/
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Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:38 am
by TheGreenGoblin
izod tester wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:32 pm
The best place to get that information would be the Shuttleworth Veteran Aircraft Society. The have an Anson (actually an Avro XIX) at Old Warden.
+1

It is in beautiful condition.

Talking to BAE systems may also garner the necessary technical insights.

Their site also lists all exant Anson's and where they are displayed or flown. Duxford would also be a good place to enquire.

https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/heritage/avro-anson

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Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:05 am
by TheGreenGoblin
Apropos of the Anson and famed Czech pilot Vaclav Jicha who also tested Spitfires at Castle Bromwich with Alex Henshaw...


http://eastlothianatwar.co.uk/ELAW/Air_Accidents.html

On the 1st February 1945 Jicha was in Kinloss and, wanting to return to Castle Bromwich, he hitched a lift on Anson NK945. FLt Ronald Cameron Ferguson, the pilot, became disorientated in a heavy snowstorm, misjudged the height and flew into Turf Law in the Lammermuirs. Jicha, Ferguson and F/O Arthur S. Davidson were killed. The Anson appears to have struck the slopes obliquely and skidded along the hillside until it toppled nose-first into a small ravine. A survey of the site was carried out by an Air Crash Archaeology and Investigation Society led by Kenny Walker and some pieces of debris were found.

For some time it was believed that Jicha had survived the crash but had died from exposure while crawling across the heather to seek help, but no hard evidence has come to light to confirm or deny this story. He lies buried in St Mary’s RC graveyard, Haddington.
I paid my respects at Jicha's grave and visited the aircraft museum in East Lothian two years back.

https://www.nms.ac.uk/national-museum-o ... vro-anson/

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PS - The aircraft noted above does not appear to be listed in the BAE table!
The Avro Anson at East Fortune is a C.19, very different in appearance from the original military Mk. I aircraft used by the RAF during the Second Word War. Just over 250 C.19 Ansons were built. Our aircraft was given the civil aircraft registration G-APHV, but originally had the military serial VM360.

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:14 am
by TheGreenGoblin
Another outfit who clearly know about the Anson.

http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/5b49 ... te-part-ii

I assume this is not the same group noted by the OP?

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:57 am
by TheGreenGoblin
G-CPTN wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:09 pm
Is there not a Haynes manual? :D
No but there is a cushion!

Just imagine how delighted your good lady wife would be to receive this "tasteful" adornment to her favourite sofa!

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Aah! The height of nostalgic grace and chic... =))

Re: Info on 1936 built Avro Anson

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:10 pm
by tango15
CharlieOneSix wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 pm
Anson C19 TX226 which used to be at Coventry with Air Atlantique is now with the Montrose Air Station Heritage Centre. I saw it there last October, just a shell at the start of its rebuild. https://rafmontrose.org.uk/
Anson_move_6.jpg
In my years as a plane spotter, it was a regular visitor to Speke. I believe it was based at Jurby (IOM) at the time. It would be great to see it complete again. My earliest flying days were spent in an Anson, flying mushrooms from Dublin to Speke, so I have a soft spot for it.