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Nostalgia of the worst kind - The Sabre dance...

#1 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:31 pm

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#2 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:48 am

OUCH!

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#3 Post by Ex-Ascot » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:06 am

Sounds like a tricky jet to manage.
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Re: Nostalgia of the worst kind - The Sabre dance...

#4 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:10 pm

Ex-Ascot wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:06 am
Sounds like a tricky jet to manage.
Tip stall of the 45 degree swept wing with concomitant forward movement of the centre of pressure/lift resulting in the nose pitching up and the aircraft getting so high in the drag curve/behind the power curve, that it couldn't fly out of it even with reheat on. Only hope apparently was to go for full power and commence a turn, not too tight though, and attempt to recover from the stalled state before attempting to get the nose down, before the adverse yaw/roll couple tendency became too much to control. Apparently one man who man for whom the "Sabre dance" held no terrors was Bob Hoover who used to purposely get into this state and then fly out of it to order.

Bob Hoover, truly a genius...

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#5 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:24 pm

Apparently one man for whom the "Sabre dance" held no terrors was Bob Hoover who used to purposely get into this state and then fly out of it to order.

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#6 Post by AtomKraft » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:44 pm

It needed a bigger fin and rudder- and got them.

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#7 Post by k3k3 » Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:29 pm

Danish Super Sabres used to lob into Lossie a lot in the mid-seventies for whisky, sorry, navex training.

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#8 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:39 am

AtomKraft wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:44 pm
It needed a bigger fin and rudder- and got them.
As you imply, Dutch Roll, and "snaking" at high speed, was corrected, for the most part, by those modifications.


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#9 Post by AtomKraft » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:52 am

Yeah Gobbers. It's a 'keel area' thing....

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