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Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:48 am
by Ex-Ascot
We and many others here involved in the tourism industry and conservation forecast, months ago, that this would happen. Note that 5 'suspected' poachers were shot dead. Our shoot first ask questions later policy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... virus.html

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:25 am
by Capetonian
That's terrible. Rhino poaching is something else that filthy bloody Chinese are behind.

Recommended reading in this context is a book by Wilbur Smith called Elephant Song which he wrote more than 10 years ago, it turned out to be very prescient, was going on then and it's just got worse since then.

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:45 am
by Undried Plum
My favourite is this one:

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Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:15 pm
by Ex-Ascot
Undried Plum wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:45 am
My favourite is this one:

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B-)

Yes indeed Cape Elephant Song by Wilbur Smith is an excellent realistic read. We have it in our Amorgos library. And, of course it is the Far Easterners who are the bastard poachers.

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:38 pm
by ian16th

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:54 am
by Pinky the pilot
Re the Daily Mail story, Ex-Ascot; I run an ad blocker and cannot read the article. A pop up appears stating that I must disable the adblocker.

Anyone know a way around this without disabling Adblocker?

Mrs Ex-Ascot; Trust that you are recovering well from your injuries! :YMHUG:

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:38 am
by Ex-Ascot
Pinky, I have various sites which treat me this way, Pirate Bay for example. I just use a different browser which I haven't set up ad blockers on.

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:48 am
by Mrs Ex-Ascot
Pinky the pilot wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:54 am



Mrs Ex-Ascot; Trust that you are recovering well from your injuries! :YMHUG:
Pinky thank you for your concern; we are both fine. :-bd Also looking forward to seeing the barstewards being put away for a loooong time. :D

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:21 pm
by ian16th

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:48 pm
by Capetonian
Some good may come from CV19, at least for bulls.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/coronaviru ... -/45753906

The shut-down could deal a fatal blow to a controversial spectacle which poet Federico Garcia Lorca once called "the last serious thing".

Traditionally an emblematic part of Spanish culture, it has struggled for survival in recent decades.

Although the big festivals still draw crowds, public interest in bullfighting has dwindled considerably

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 9:30 am
by Woody
There’s an interesting programme on Channel 4 from Botswana called Walking with Elephants, not from the Ex-A’s area, but well worth watching :-bd

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 10:43 am
by Capetonian
I watched it on Sunday. The next episode is 17MAY 2100 GB times on C4. Most enjoyable and relaxing to watch. I recommend it, sit there with a beer and enjoy the camp fire chat between the presenter and the locals. (Camp as in outdoors, not as in gay!)

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:47 pm
by Ex-Ascot
Woody wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 9:30 am
There’s an interesting programme on Channel 4 from Botswana called Walking with Elephants, not from the Ex-A’s area, but well worth watching :-bd
Actually very much from our area. Don't know what is going to happen this year with the lack of water but hopefully they will follow it as it arrives. The more adventurous push on to the south of the Delta to go to the pans just down the road from us. They pass a few paces from our bedroom window, usually at night. You hear them sloshing through the water. Sometimes you see them just after dawn then they seem to stick to the bush.

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 5:31 pm
by Capetonian
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyggd0bxoum8f ... 4.mp4?dl=0

I am not sure if this link will work. It shows an arsehole tour ranger trying to follow an ellie into the bush. He got annoyed and turned round to chase the vehicle away with a little bit of persuasion. What is interesting is that he went straight for the driver and the driver's area.

We have to guess whether he was very smart, racist, or both.

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:23 pm
by G-CPTN
Didn't the punters come for a close look at the animals?

Was that close enough?

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:31 pm
by Ex-Ascot
Officials kill buffalo in Maun

Officials from veterinary services as well as wildlife and national parks have killed a buffalo that was spotted in Maun this morning.

Foot and Mouth Disease (FMD) unit coordinator, Dr Odireleng Thololwane, confirmed in an interview that they received a report from one of the residents and dispatched a team of officers to attend to the situation.

He said there was no fatality recorded, adding that a decision was made to kill the buffalo because it was posing a danger to the community and to stop it from interacting with cattle.
Excuse me but the buffalo may disagree with that statement.

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:50 pm
by Woody
Absolutely adorable :ymdevil:


Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:05 am
by Capetonian
From this morning's Sunday Times (ZA)
Enabling the dealers in death
The legal trade in wild animals between SA and China is helping the illegal trade grow, writes environmental investigator Don Pinnock

Sunday Times24 May 2020● See the full report at https://emsfoundation.org.za/exposedill ... ife-trade/ ● See the investigation by ‘Carte Blanche’ at

The legal trade in wildlife between SA and China is extensive and often corrupt, with glaring violations overlooked by authorities and benefits flowing to a few wealthy traders. It’s also acting as a cover for illicit trade. This is documented in an extensive, meticulous report by Ban Animal Trading and the EMS

Foundation — the outcome of four years of research.

The report says photos taken at Chinese importing centres show barren enclosures that “tell their own story of animal welfare violation and naked greed” despite the danger of Covid-type diseases.

The authors found that export permits frequently list fake destinations and that the issuing of permits under the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) is so lax it’s almost nonexistent. As a result, wild animals are subjected to cruel and degrading conditions when captured, bred, transported, displayed in Chinese “theme parks” or used in scientific experiments. Their welfare is being ignored.

Given that the trade in wildlife has triggered a global pandemic, says the report, this is extremely worrying, threatening not only the lives of animals but of humans too. Infectious zoonotic (transmitted from animals to people) disease outbreaks have increased dramatically in the past 30 years. The most likely causes are commercialisation through exploitation of wildlife. This includes hunting, trade in and transport of wild and farmed animals, habitat degradation, an increase in the number of farmed animals, particularly wild animals, intensified agricultural activities and expansion of agricultural land.

According to the report, “habitat loss, global travel and a persistent and growing appetite for wild tastes and exotic products has created a perfect storm for the next human pandemic”.

The CITES regulatory system, it says, has created a false sense of security for those who believe the international trade in wildlife is justified, sustainable and educational — and contributes to conservation.

“In fact it facilitates the illegal trade by enabling the laundering of animals while boosting demand for illegal wildlife and illegal wildlife products,” it says.

The report, which is based on investigations in China, open-source research and information obtained from governmental and nongovernmental sources, shines a glaring spotlight on SA’s “legal” trade in live wild animals with China. This trade, it says, is “riddled with irregularities” with “gaping loopholes” in the CITES permitting system. These include:

● Illegal shipments masquerading as legal exports of wildlife species classified as threatened by extinction (Appendix I) and endangered (Appendix II) by CITES;

● Brokering and wholesale companies and zoos implicated in the trafficking of wild-caught CITES Appendix I-listed species;

● The sale of CITES-listed species to theme and amusement parks, circuses, laboratories and zoos and so-called safari parks in violation of CITES rules;

● Untraceable destinations, importers and addresses despite these being required in CITES permits;

● Enforcement negligence, particularly in relation to likely false declarations made by traders, agents and exporters;

● Animals traded being untraceable after export;

● Absent verification measures;

● Lack of transparency and access to permits; and ● An intertwining of the legal local and global permit system with illegal wildlife trade.

“The repetitive box-ticking exercise that defines CITES is, in a very real sense, dangerous because it creates the illusion of a well-controlled system of compliance, efficiency and verification — and therefore protection,” the report notes.

SA’s policies and procedures actively promote this convergence. For these reasons, “transnational wildlife trafficking networks and crimes perpetrated against wild animals cannot be disrupted without focusing on the entire supply and demand chain of the so-called ‘legal’ trade”.

The details that back these claims are shocking and demand the urgent attention of the department of environment, fisheries & forestry (DEFF). The report lists a litany of bad practices, questionable decisions and shady deals.

SA is the largest exporter in Africa of live wild animals to Asia, but authorities repeatedly fail to comply with the very basic CITES regulations governing this trade.

Between 2016 and 2018, SA and China were listed among the top five countries for wildlife trafficking seizures.

The country’s “consumptive use” wildlife doctrine and lax regulations risk unleashing myriad Covidtype diseases.

The DEFF encourages trade in wild animals and their body parts without scientific evidence and without properly assessing the impact this may have on free-ranging populations of wild animals, the report says. DEFF says its trade in wildlife is regulated, “but this does not accord with our observations”.

Nearly all exported primates are not bred in captivity; they are wild-caught and illegally traded out of Africa and Indonesia.

False declarations by traders, agents and exporters are common yet not a single offender has been prosecuted.

The origin of any given animal is almost impossible to trace. Once animals leave SA it is similarly impossible to identify where they end up. Many destinations are “pure fiction”.

Most export permits are in breach of CITES regulations. CITES import permits are often not signed or dated.

Local and CITES legal wildlife trade monitoring systems contain extensive loopholes, gaps and opportunities to launder illegal items into the legal market.

The source of so-called captive-bred animals is not checked or properly verified.

Archaic, paper-based local and CITES legal wildlife trade monitoring systems make it virtually impossible to reconcile and audit trade information or to crosscheck information provided on waybills.

The name of the importer on the permit is very often not the actual destination or address that the exported animals will be sent to.

In China, animal welfare laws governing captive wild animals are nonexistent.

The idea of “well-regulated” markets is a myth, a smokescreen behind which deeply embedded interests exploit wild animals for purely commercial gain.

DNA tests are rarely done.

It is extremely difficult to identify the source of baby animals arriving in China from Africa.

CITES members are using zoos as a shield to absolve themselves of any responsibility for animal welfare. Far from being places of care and safety,

“zoos are places of stress-inducing confinement and captivity and there is no conservation-education value to the use of wild animals”.

CITES as an international treaty is “weak, untenable, impracticable, unfeasible and irreparable”.

The research found that, between 2015 and 2019, at least 32 wild species from SA were exported to China. It lists 15 exporters and 41 importers, finding questionable listed information and permit violations in many cases. Many of the animals were being used to perform in circuses and wildlife events or were going to labs for experimentation and vivisection in violation of CITES regulations.

Of particular concern was the export of CITES Appendix 1-listed chimpanzees and tigers (not indigenous to SA), cheetahs, rhinos, lions, caracal, monkeys, giraffes and unlisted species such as wild dogs, hyenas and meerkats.

The report concludes that the wildlife trade between SA and China is “massive, ever-expanding, ecologically unsustainable, damaging and closely intertwined with illegal activities”.

“South Africa’s wildlife conservation reputation is effectively in tatters because DEFF has misinterpreted section 24 of the South African constitution and is instead and expediently interpreting the notion of ‘sustainable use’ as a catch-all justification for rampant exploitation of wild animals.”

The country’s international live wildlife trade, says the report, is “large, poorly enforced, indefensible and shameful”. The report says bans should be placed on:

● The live trade of wild animals, including captivebred wild animals;

● Captive breeding and farming of wildlife for trade;

● The consumption of wild animals; and

● Wet markets and wild animal markets.

It calls for a prohibition on the international commercial legal trade and sale of wild animals and their body parts and a precautionary and compassionate approach in relation to wildlife.

The NGOs recommend the crafting of a comprehensive global agreement “as a matter of extreme urgency, to tackle the dangerous, inhumane and indiscriminate trade in wild animals”.

The report is part of larger research into the wildlife trade, which will include Vietnam, Thailand, Pakistan and Bangladesh. In view of the Covid-19 pandemic, however, it was decided to release the China section ahead of the final publication.

Francisco Pérez, a CITES communications officer, responded to the report: “We will review the report carefully and will not hesitate to take up any serious breaches of the Convention with the States concerned or bring matters to the attention of the CITES standing committee if required.”

The DEFF did not respond when approached for comment.

Wildlife trade between SA and China is ‘massive, ecologically unsustainable, damaging and closely intertwined with illegal activities … SA’s conservation reputation is in tatters’

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:52 am
by Capetonian
amazon.co.uk/Trophy-Hunters-Exposed-Inside-industry-ebook/dp/B088P4L9KF/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eduardo%20goncalves&qid=1589824296&sr=8-1&fbclid=IwAR283yDbDBLvcwMZi82lNeIR3G4SzSdiS8ZkUJTaBZbq6ktGsC3JJTpfRvg
Thousands of animals threatened with extinction were shot by trophy hunters last year. Attempts to protect dwindling lion and elephant populations have been thwarted by hunters. They are now allowed to shoot twice as many critically endangered black rhinos. How has this happened?

‘TROPHY HUNTERS EXPOSED – Inside the Big Game Industry’ is an explosive investigation into the trophy hunting industry, its key players and donors, and how it is stripping endangered animals of the protections they need.

It reveals how a top fundraiser for Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin’s right-hand man, the head of a paramilitary death-squad and a former WWF Director have shot record-breaking lions, elephants, rhinos and leopards.

It exposes the identities of over 500 hunters who have won industry awards for shooting all the ‘African Big Five’; the leading figures in the UK industry including a salesman who helps hunters shoot juvenile lions in enclosures; and the extraordinary kill tallies and trophy collections of hunters around the world.

It also lifts the lid on how household brands – and our taxes – are funding lobbyists, how the Boy Scouts and Salvation Army in the US are helping the industry recruit a new generation of child hunters, how lobbyists are posing as ‘conservation’ groups … and how the industry boasts it ploughs more money into US elections than some of the world’s biggest corporations.

Read how psychologists and criminologists fear trophy hunting could be fuelling violent crime, and how the industry could spark devastating outbreaks of diseases in local communities ...

The author, Eduardo Goncalves, is an award-winning campaigner, journalist and conservationist. He has been a consultant to WWF and CEO of a national animal welfare charity. In 2018, he founded the Campaign to Ban Trophy Hunting (CBTH) which is today supported by some of the world’s biggest names in music, sport, film and TV. In 2019, CBTH persuaded the UK government to support a ban on imports of hunting trophies.

Proceeds from the sale of ‘TROPHY HUNTERS EXPOSED – Inside the Big Game Industry’ will be donated to the Campaign to Ban Trophy Hunting www.bantrophyhunting.org


dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-05-18-horrific-scale-of-sas-live-wild-animal-trade-to-china-exposed/?fbclid=IwAR1X7U4CVqDEUwxZDla-Ymyk0Ml6xu3eqTeESzPudLA9w5TnvFHUzxCOD3s

Horrific scale of SA’s live wild animal trade to China exposed

By Andreas Wilson-Spath• 18 May 2020

Eighteen chimpanzees were legally exported from the Hartebeespoort Snake and Animal Park – not a CITES-registered chimpanzee breeding facility – to the Beijing Wild Animal Park in 2019.
Chimpanzees, Bengal tigers, wolves, wild dogs and lions are among thousands of endangered wild animals exported, sometimes in contravention of CITES regulations, often in shameful conditions.

This article was provided by the Conservation Action Trust.

At a time when the entire globe is reeling from a deadly disease that originated in wild animals and many species face the risk of extinction, a new report just released reveals that thousands of live wild animals – continued to be exported from South Africa to China right up to lockdown, purely for profit.

Its findings provide damning evidence of dysfunctional regulations and permitting procedures, criminality and greed alongside a deep neglect of animal welfare concerns and nature conservation principles.


https://rhinoreview.org/tag/wildlife-tr ... l3j2FoGk6A
It is believed that there are just over 5,000 black rhinos left in the world, critically endangered.

Thus, the survival of each and every one of the species is paramount to its continued existence.

Re: Any animal killers here?

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:08 pm
by OFSO
Boiling creatures alive is a pretty appalling thing to do.