Nerd's Corner - Ice cool aircraft recognition game.

[John Hill]

Caco, Mrs Beryl Markham with her Percival Vega Gull?

[Cacophonix]

@JH so no need for ab initio flight testing etc. For a moment I thought you might have come up with a brand new design and was monstrously impressed. Nonetheless I am still very impressed!

Caco

[Cacophonix]

Caco, Mrs Beryl Markham with her Percival Vega Gull?

Take the proxy marker John pending Bob's return!

Caco

[John Hill]

OK, this should be easy...

[Cacophonix]

I reckon that is a Tupolev Tu-104. One of the first successful airliners along with the Comet, Caravelle and ultimately the Boeing 707.

Caco

[om15]

I carried out the recovery of a TU-104 in Cyprus in 1973, built like a brick out house. I posted my story on here in Aug 15,

I joined 103 MU at Akrotiri in June 1973 until the demise in March 1975 following the reduction in based units after the Turkish invasion. The unit covered the repair and salvage of crashed aircraft in the NEAF region, with working parties around the RAF bases and also to cover RAF aircraft at other locations. An additional responsibility was clearing crashed aircraft from operating runways using salvage equipment.
This is how we became involved in this civil TU104 at Nicosia,

http://www.baaa-acro.com/1973/archives/ ... n-nicosia/

The aircraft came off the runway during landing, the only recorded injuries being sustained by the pilots jumping out before the rescue crews arrived on the scene. The aircraft was declared scrap and cleared from the side of the runway to enable normal operations to resume.

The wreck was then purchased by a local entrepreneur with the then fashionable idea of turning the aircraft into a restaurant, to be located on the main Nicosia to Kyrenia road north of the airport. We were then summoned back to Nicosia with the instructions to raise the aircraft to allow the proud owner to manoeuvre his home made trollies into place, to then enable him to drag the remaining part of the aircraft across about 3 miles of bondu, dried up river beds and large rocky outcrops.
We dutifully raised the aircraft using airbags and jacks, then very gingerly lowered onto two very jerry built trolleys which immediately fell apart when taking the weight of the aircraft.
However, not to be beaten a team of local engineering aces arrived, disregarding the fuel drenched area they got the welding gear out and started to haphazardly weld strengthening pieces to the now collapsed trollies. With avtur dripping out of the wings and one of the welding bottles shooting flames out of the regulator we decided to retire and let them get on with it.
After an evenings refreshment in Ellens Bar in Nicosia we returned the next morning and repeated the exercise several times before the trollies and aircraft finally just collapsed.
If you look at the chain of photos you can see how intact the fuselage was at the beginning and what it looked like at the end, the gentleman with the worry beads was the very anxious owner. The aircraft never did move an inch and the colour photo at the end shows the remains there today.

[Cacophonix]

You should publish that fascinating anecdote in one of the relevant magazines out there in the wider world om.

I have always found the history of Russian aviation and aircraft fascinating.

[bbvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiaJu9zQ61w[/bbvideo]

Sorry I digress.

Caco

[om15]

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[om15]

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Found these on the net, the link above doesn't seem to work, seems a long time ago now.

Edit, you can still see the rusty trolley under the wreckage.

[John Hill]

OM15, the Tu-104 in my picture is in a privately owned 'air park' in CZ. The owner, his son and grandson, "alone" dismantled the aircraft where it has been for decades on a concrete plinth and reassembled it themselves where you see it shading the carpark outside their house. I dont know what heavy lifting equipment they had but I did see one very old tracked 'dragline' in their storage yard. He told me it is no problem for him and his "boys" to take out and replace rivets etc and pictures in their scrap books did show several of their aircraft reduced to very small(ish) pieces.

[om15]

Found this in the scrap book, you can see the airbags in position under the fuselage ready to lift the aircraft.

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Apologies for thread drift, please play on!

[Cacophonix]

Aviation anecdotes are part of this game om, besides we are waiting for the marker carrier Bob to pick up the mantle and for John Hill to tell us that the aircraft was in fact a Tupolev Tu-104 (but I think we all know it was and I now note he has).

With respect to the Tu-104 in the photos it is pity you guys didn't get to complete the task but I guess the risk of being blown up by mad Cypriots wasn't worth it. Sad to see the wreckage sitting there so forlornly.

So I will post another aircraft! What aircraft is this?

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Caco

[John Hill]

Sorry Caco but you really do have to use photos Google cant find! Away to play now, workshop day at the aviation museum!

[Cacophonix]

Sorry Caco but you really do have to use photos Google cant find! Away to play now, workshop day at the aviation museum!

Think of it as a test with your textbook shut next to you John but you can open it if you want. You either know what the aircraft shown is or not. If you don't but think you can make a good guess then do so or let others have a go. If you really get frustrated then, and if you really have to, then use Google image or your textbook or whatever and fess up. Its all about the journey in this game, not the getting there that matters. That's not really hard at all methinks. On the road we learn a lot about aircraft types and stuff we wouldn't know. om's great anecdote is a case in point. The story and the additional knowledge is the win win here, not the being able to confound people for long periods! If you don't like that idea then don't play, tis that simple.

Caco

[Bob]

Google not required, but the A5 caption has jogged my memory and IIRC its an ADAM A5OO

[Cacophonix]

Google not required, but the A5 caption has jogged my memory and IIRC its an ADAM A5OO

A hint is always handy too to jog the memory!

The marker was and now is with you Bob!

Caco

[Bob]

John Hill, would that Museum be the jet age museum by any chance?

[Bob]

oh ok, i'll look at what I have and get back

[Bob]

duplicate sry

[Bob]

PROBABLY A BIT EASY, TAKEN RECENTLY AT wELLESBOURNE (A NICE LITTLE AIRFIELD THAT CURRENTLY NEEDS SUPPORT) SO GO THERE.

sry caps