Nerd's Corner - Ice cool aircraft recognition game.

[Cacophonix]

Highly unconventional aircraft as it appears to have too many wings! A canard of some sort perhaps?

Whatever the case it seems the pilot or crew had a bad day in the office.

Caco

[Cukup Sudah]

You are on the right track.

Here is another picture taken shortly before the first one.

[Cacophonix]

You are on the right track.

Here is another picture taken shortly before the first one.

Wow that second image looks like some sort of "bi-diamond/joined wing" config. Something (but not quite like the image below) perhaps as it seems to have to short conventional wings as well! Will have to go hunting. Highly experimental by the looks of it!

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Caco

[Cpt_Pugwash]

That second pic looks very like Galasphere 347 from Space Patrol. I always knew it was true!

[Cukup Sudah]

It was highly experimental and it did not need much runway.

[Cpt_Pugwash]

A quick google using "experimental box wing crash" returns the Elytron 25. I thought it looked like a model, but it appears it was piloted.

OH

[Cacophonix]

It was highly experimental and it did not need much runway.

It is out of control (it crashed) so it may be some kind of glorified bi-di tilt rotor affair. If it is, then talk about looking for trouble!

If the above is right I haven't a clue what make of aircraft it is/was mind!

Caco

[Cukup Sudah]

You are correct. The Elytron 2S tiltrotor.

[Cacophonix]

Extraordinary looking aircraft...

Since its creation in 2013, VTOL AEROSPACE has made extensive use of flying proof-of-concepts at different scales, going from compact unmanned test vehicles up to a 28-ft manned prototype.

Putting these test vehicles through their paces, meaning flying them in real conditions at a runway, has provided invaluable engineering data and experience, confirming the flight qualities of its patented technology, which blends the features of a tilt-wing inside a fixed box-wing.

The conclusion of a deep-dive evaluation of this planform was completed using a 20-lb scale model unmanned aircraft and applying a battery of tests, including comprehensive CFD simulations in and out of ground effect (IGE/OGE), high-speed tests on moving rig, wind tunnel tests conducted at NASA Ames, and free-air test flights. This has led to the collection and compilation of 100s of performance data points, allowing the company to fully qualify the airframe after such an extended evaluation phase and getting it ready for scale production.

http://www.converticopter.com/

Caco

[ian16th]

One must not belittle original thinking, but in the history of aviation how many 'revolutionary' designs have been instantly successful?

Building on proven designs/concepts usually produces something that works.

Using a new engine on a new airframe tends to lead to a long gestation period. Think A-400.

The P-51 went from idea to airborne in a matter of months, and only needed the addition of a proven engine to produce a world-beater.

Discuss

[Cacophonix]

One must not belittle original thinking, but in the history of aviation how many 'revolutionary' designs have been instantly successful?

Building on proven designs/concepts usually produces something that works.

Using a new engine on a new airframe tends to lead to a long gestation period. Think A-400.

The P-51 went from idea to airborne in a matter of months, and only needed the addition of a proven engine to produce a world-beater.

Discuss

Your point is well made, "stand on the shoulders of giants" and all that. The P-51 (Mustang) only began to shine when the Allison V-1710 was replaced by the Merlin 60 series with the high altitude supercharger allowing the P-51, with its greater fuel capacity (carrying drop tanks) and range than most other fighters at the time, to fly at altitude to support the USAAF bombers on their raids all the way into the German heartland.

The P-51 also saw sterling service at the start of the Korean War, being flown successfully by a number of air forces including the SAAF and its pre-eminence was obvious until it was totally outclassed by the arrival of jets in the form of Mig-15 and the Sabre, which was scrambled into production to counteract the potent Mig threat to outdated piston and prop driven UN allied aircraft.

The Mustang continued in military service though, mostly in the USA, in one guise or another to the late 60's. Not bad for a World War 2 era aircraft.

Caco

[Cacophonix]

om15 and the Captain (Cpt_Pugwash to those who know him personally, may his name be revered in the annals of aircraft identification) have both gone AWOL so I shall post a filler while we wait for them to take their turn in turn as it were....

What aircraft cockpit is this?

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Caco

[CharlieOneSix]

If my poor old eyes read the radio callsign correctly as N61698 it's a Beech King Air 90....

[Boac]

Old age and cunning will always overcome youth and intelligence

[Wodrick]

I concur, N61698 is a King Air, currently on the ground at Silver City New Mexico, where it has been for the last month. Not over utilized then.

It remains OH

[CharlieOneSix]

Here's a helicopter triplane for you then.....

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[Cacophonix]

Old age and cunning will always overcome youth and intelligence

Caco

[Cacophonix]

CharlieOneSix only you dyed in the wool helicopter wallahs would go and spoil a perfectly good aeroplane by putting rotors on it!

That is a Berliner helicopter or rather a kind of gyrocopter (so when Kennedy spoke those immortal word "Ich bin ein Berliner" he fact may have been likening himself to a helicopter/gyrocopter)!

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Emile Berliner, an inventor famous for his invention of the flat gramaphone record, had experimented with intermeshing helicopters as early as 1907. The initial design was underpowered and called for a lighter engine. Berliner developed a 36 hp five cylinder rotary engine with the Adams-Farwell Company from Dubuque, Iowa, producing the first rotary engine used for aircraft. Berliner later spun off the Gyro Motor Company from this work.A test rig was flown in 1908, followed by two other upgrades before Berliner focused on his other businesses.

In 1919, Emile Berliner's son, Henry Berliner, left the Army Air Service as an aerial photographer to work with his father on helicopter designs.

By 1922 Henry founded the Berliner Aircraft Company with a focus on conventional aircraft. The Berliner Helicopter was successfully demonstrated throughout the 1920s but interest was lost due to its limited controllability and engine-out abilities compared to the autogyro and conventional aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_Helicopter

https://www.wired.com/2007/12/gallery-h ... lideView=1

Caco

[CharlieOneSix]

Well done Caco - Yes, it’s the Berliner No.5. Everyone has heard of Igor Sikorsky but maybe Henry Berliner is not so well known. He had some success in the 1920’s with his Berliner Helicopters which were a series of experimental helicopters built between 1922 and 1925.

On February 23, 1924, powered by a 220hp Bentley BR2 Rotary engine, a test flight reached 15 feet (4.6 m) in altitude and 40 mph in forward speed. The next day it was demonstrated in front of Navy officials and the press. That same year testing of the Berliner Helicopter was moved to McCook Field, in Dayton, Ohio. McCook Field was the U.S. Army Signal Corps experimental test and development field. There it was flown by Air Service test pilot Harold H Harris among others, achieving stable hovers of up to 15 feet. A helicopter hangar was constructed at the field for the craft, and is believed to be the world's first dedicated helicopter hangar.

Berliner Helicopter No.5 is owned by the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum. It is on display at the College Park Air Museum in Maryland. This is the same aircraft test flown by the U.S. Army Signal Corp at McCook Field in the 1920s.

[Cacophonix]

Cheers C16. OH folks.

Caco