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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#61 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:46 am

But enough of fictional characters and back to reality.

I was wondering about the history of launch escape systems after the flawless SpaceX/NASA test test yesterday. I also wondered how many times such systems had been used by manned crew.

With respect to the first question I guess the Wikipedia entry is quite useful and very interesting.

Launch Escape Systems

Despite many mishaps both in the USA and the Soviet Union/Russian Federation with unmanned or test rockets where the LES was fired intentionally or not, only the Soviet Union has had a crew egress their launch vehicle in this way. In a second incident the Russian Federation had a crew return to earth safely without the LES after separation failure. In the latter case one of the astronauts/cosmonauts was an American en route to the International Space Station.
The first usage with a manned mission occurred during the attempt to launch Soyuz T-10-1 on September 26, 1983. The rocket caught fire, just before launch, and the LES carried the crew capsule clear, seconds before the rocket exploded. The crew were subjected to an acceleration of 14 to 17 g (140 to 170 m/s2) for five seconds and were badly bruised. Reportedly, the capsule reached an altitude of 2,000 meters (6,600 ft) and landed 4 kilometers (2.5 mi) from the launch pad.

In 2018 the crew of Soyuz MS-10 separated from their launch vehicle after a booster rocket separation failure occurred at an altitude of 50 km during the ascent. However, at this point in the mission the LES had already been ejected and was not used to separate the crew capsule from the rest of the launch vehicle. Backup motors were utilized to separate the crew capsule resulting in the crew landing safely and uninjured approximately 19 minutes after launch.
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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#62 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:51 am

The first usage with a manned mission occurred during the attempt to launch Soyuz T-10-1 on September 26, 1983. The rocket caught fire, just before launch, and the LES carried the crew capsule clear, seconds before the rocket exploded. The crew were subjected to an acceleration of 14 to 17 g (140 to 170 m/s2) for five seconds and were badly bruised. Reportedly, the capsule reached an altitude of 2,000 meters (6,600 ft) and landed 4 kilometers (2.5 mi) from the launch pad.
This extract from Mir Hardware Heritage describes the only time the LES or Russian SAS has been used, so far:
Pad Abort September 26, 1983
Vladimir Titov, Gennadi Strekalov
Crew code name: Okean
Refer to figure 1-29. Shortly before liftoff, fuel spilled around the base of the Soyuz launch vehicle and caught fire. Launch control activated the escape system, but the control cables had already burned. The crew could not activate or control the escape system, but 20 sec later, ground control was able to activate the escape system by radio command. By this time the booster was engulfed in flames. Explosive bolts fired to separate the descent module from the service module and the upper launch shroud from the lower. Then the escape system motor fired, dragging the orbital module and descent module, encased within the upper shroud, free of the booster at 14 to 17 g’s of acceleration. Acceleration lasted 5 sec. Seconds after the escape system activated, the booster exploded, destroying the launch complex (which was, incidentally, the one used to launch Sputnik 1 and Vostok 1). Four paddle-shaped stabilizers on the outside of the shroud opened. The descent module separated from the orbital module at an altitude of 650 m, and dropped free of the shroud. It discarded its heat shield, exposing the solid-fuelled land landing rockets, and deployed a fast-opening emergency parachute. Landing occurred about 4 km from the launch pad. The aborted mission is often called Soyuz T-10a in the West.
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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#63 Post by Boac » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:18 pm

Starship prototype pressure test again! https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-s ... ideos.html

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#64 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:29 am

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Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:18 pm
Starship prototype pressure test again! https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-s ... ideos.html

You will not get me up it one of dose, Jimmy :))
The shape's ull wrung Jimmy!


Something out of The Eagle...
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The shape would require very thin skin because stainless steel is very heavy. Despite using stainless steel, the concept wouldn't easily allow for ablation, so one assumes Pretoria's very own dope smoker may be looking for a retro rocket, or very high angle of attack, descent to Mars with all the fuel, heating, weight considerations, slosh, pressurization and stresses that entails. Whatever the case it does not compute, to me anyway... Sucks worse than his submarine in a cave idea. Sucks balls!

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#65 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:49 am

Artist's conception of what the ship might look like...

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Why the stainless steeel idea and the shape sucks...

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#66 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:31 am

Talk about an enduring metaphor for premature ejaculation...



Give Musk his due, he thinks big and out of the box and is always very interesting and he is clearly a very clever guy surrounded by even more clever capable people.
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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#68 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:36 pm

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:31 am

Give Musk his due, he thinks big and out of the box and is always very interesting and he is clearly a very clever guy surrounded by even more clever capable people.
And you can't think bigger than this methinks...

What is Starlink



Some critics of Starlink have suggested that the constellation of satellites will constitute a small risk to other missions and launches and their light could be a very big risk to astronomy...

Starlink satellites could constitute an existential risk to astronomy
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#69 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:56 pm

A constellation of thousands of small satellites!

Not like LEO and above is not crowded enough already!

<<double click on the image for a clearer perspective..>> or have a go yourself Spacetrak
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#70 Post by Boac » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:01 am

The last in the current Space-X ISS resupply contract launched early this AM UK time AM and will dock later. Another successful 'barge' first stage recovery (the 50th!!) and the third flight for the cargo capsule. Amazing.


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#71 Post by Boac » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:13 pm

Mark 27/5 in your diaries, Space followers. SpaceX is planning its first manned mission to the ISS.

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#72 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:28 pm

Boac wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:13 pm
Mark 27/5 in your diaries, Space followers. SpaceX is planning its first manned mission to the ISS.
Marked in diary. Thanks for the heads up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52333932
If successful, SpaceX – headed by billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk - will become the first private firm to send Nasa astronauts into space.

The Falcon Nine rocket and Crew Dragon spacecraft will take off from the space centre’s historic Pad 39A, the same one used for the Apollo and shuttle missions.
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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#73 Post by Boac » Mon May 18, 2020 2:21 pm

SpaceX crewed capsule launch scheduled for 20:33(Z) on 27/5

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#74 Post by Boac » Thu May 21, 2020 9:33 am

Apparently 'Virgin Orbit' are to launch a rocket from a 747 on Sunday over California. Rumours that it will contain Richard Branson have been denied by a HMG spokesperson.

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#75 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun May 24, 2020 4:35 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 9:33 am
Apparently 'Virgin Orbit' are to launch a rocket from a 747 on Sunday over California. Rumours that it will contain Richard Branson have been denied by a HMG spokesperson.
Richard Branson’s Virgin Orbit postponed its first space launch on Sunday, due to a technical problem.

Richard Branson to sell $500m worth of Virgin Galactic shares
The company said one sensor was “acting up” and fuel was being offloaded from the rocket in Mojave, California, to address what it termed a minor issue.

“This means we are scrubbed for today,“ it said in its social media post.

A backup launch window was available on Monday morning but the company did not immediately announce its revised plan for the inaugural use of its air launch system.
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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#76 Post by Boac » Mon May 25, 2020 9:08 pm

Nobody remembered to light the blue touch paper.

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#77 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon May 25, 2020 9:11 pm

Very Beardy but this particular candle will fly I am sure.
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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#78 Post by Woody » Tue May 26, 2020 7:06 am

Probably why he sold his shares last week :ymdevil:

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#79 Post by Boac » Tue May 26, 2020 7:20 am

Aha! Someone did light the blue touch paper, then. :))

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Re: Falcon Heavy ready for lift off

#80 Post by Boac » Tue May 26, 2020 4:57 pm

My sincere best wishes to the two guys launching tomorrow. Brave fellows.

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