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Re: Rant of the Day v2.

#641 Post by Magnus » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:34 pm

Had a reasonably busy day. Visited dottir and granddottir, took latter for a walk in a local park so I could stun swans, geese, ducks, herons, water hens &c with lumps of stale bread, met my brother for a couple of lunchtime pints, and am now making chicken stock for soups. SWMBO has gone off to a nearby shopping centre with aforementioned offspring leaving me in peace to listen to SRV at high volume.

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#642 Post by Magnus » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:35 pm

Sorry; that was meant for TRABB.

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#643 Post by OFSO » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:57 pm

My post 636: why was this pathetic example of a human being killed ? Posting pictures of himself on social media grinning and holding fistfuls of large denomination notes, or making insulting signs to three members of a rival drug distribution gang driving past....whatever, as family and friends rush in to say, "he never did nuffink wrong", did he. When they won't face up to what their offspring are up to at night, there's no hope for them. I say 'they' but I mean 'she' as inevitably he did not have a father...

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#644 Post by Capetonian » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:35 pm

Just because the Yanks can't get dates right the civilised world should at least make an attempt to.

It's not just the USAmericans that have a stupid illogical way of writing dates. Many ZA government departments do it. To me, 9/11 is 09NOV. And 12/09/11 is just plain bloody confusing as it is (I think) 09NOV2012, but could be 12SEP2011. Ergo, I always write dates as in 15JAN19. For those who can't understand English and don't know JAN FEB MAR etc, e.g. the Frogs, step off the planet, it will carry on revolving without you.

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#645 Post by Ex-Ascot » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:48 pm

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Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:35 pm
Just because the Yanks can't get dates right the civilised world should at least make an attempt to.

It's not just the USAmericans that have a stupid illogical way of writing dates. Many ZA government departments do it. To me, 9/11 is 09NOV. And 12/09/11 is just plain bloody confusing as it is (I think) 09NOV2012, but could be 12SEP2011. Ergo, I always write dates as in 15JAN19. For those who can't understand English and don't know JAN FEB MAR etc, e.g. the Frogs, step off the planet, it will carry on revolving without you.
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#646 Post by G-CPTN » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:49 pm

I worked with a guy who used date and time as the parameters for his filing system, thus a document created or received today would be allocated 20190115 and, thereafter, time 1449 followed by seconds if necessary if further definition was required.
It all seemed so simple.

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#647 Post by ian16th » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:17 pm

Bl**dy courier companies!

I Rx'd a text message this morning, informing me of to expect a delivery between '08:00 and 17:00'!

Having hung around the house all day, the delivered at 17:20!
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Re: Rant of the Day v2.

#648 Post by ian16th » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:18 pm

G-CPTN wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:49 pm
I worked with a guy who used date and time as the parameters for his filing system, thus a document created or received today would be allocated 20190115 and, thereafter, time 1449 followed by seconds if necessary if further definition was required.
It all seemed so simple.
I use a similar system, for naming my computer files.
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#649 Post by Alisoncc » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:12 pm

G-CPTN wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:49 pm
I worked with a guy who used date and time as the parameters for his filing system, thus a document created or received today would be allocated 20190115 and, thereafter, time 1449 followed by seconds if necessary if further definition was required.
It all seemed so simple.
Still do. except I don't add the "20" upfront. Thus today (Oz time) 190116. Still occasionally refer to spreadsheets dated 970215 and earlier, and letters similar.
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#650 Post by OFSO » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:12 pm

Similar to the basis for rolling codes for digital door locks.

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#651 Post by llondel » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:08 pm

G-CPTN wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:49 pm
I worked with a guy who used date and time as the parameters for his filing system, thus a document created or received today would be allocated 20190115 and, thereafter, time 1449 followed by seconds if necessary if further definition was required.
It all seemed so simple.
You'd want more than that unless there's also an index. If you've got a bunch of files from six months ago and the only clue to content is the file name, then it helps to have a hint as to the content to save you opening each one in turn until you find the correct one.

The ISO-8601 date format is quite sensible. YYYY-MM-DD is unambiguous and it's easy for a computer to sort it into date order, unlike any of the other formats. I'ts the one I default to.

I did always wonder why, on their I-94W forms, the US asked for date in DD-MM-YY format, unless they just decided that as the rest of the world was going ot write it that way anyway, they might as well just ask for it in that format. Makes way more sense than the MM-DD-YY, which is akin to writing "one hundred and twenty-three" as 213.

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#652 Post by Capetonian » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:39 pm

From where we regress to the way those mental dwarves, the Frogs, count. Four twenties ten seven = 97. To confuse the enemy, but they confuse themselves.
Mind you who would want to write down a Frog's phone number anyway?

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#653 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:55 am

My being married to an American, neither of whom can change the ingrained habits of a lifetime, even tho' Mrs ExS agrees that the USA system of dates is illogical, makes for an interesting life . Anyhow ... it comes in useful when I have to explain why I have not acknowledged important anniversaries ! Oh ! I thought you meant October, not July ? ( or whatever ) So not all is lost.

Being born on the 11th September, I always get a funny look from the TSA when I enter the USA, like ... are you trying to be funny ?

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#654 Post by Sisemen » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:47 am

ExSpeedbird - you share that birth date with my eldest daughter - although I suspect she’s younger and prettier than you :))

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#655 Post by Cacophonix » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:02 am

Alisoncc wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:12 pm
G-CPTN wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:49 pm
I worked with a guy who used date and time as the parameters for his filing system, thus a document created or received today would be allocated 20190115 and, thereafter, time 1449 followed by seconds if necessary if further definition was required.
It all seemed so simple.
Still do. except I don't add the "20" upfront. Thus today (Oz time) 190116. Still occasionally refer to spreadsheets dated 970215 and earlier, and letters similar.
Ok for use on one's personal spreadsheet but inappropriate for use as a unique key on multiuser, multiple time zone, based database systems where key collisions could occur. Better to use an encrypted hashing algorithm, preferably using SHA 256 or even 512 in such cases.

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#656 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:53 am

..........although I suspect she’s younger and prettier than you
Undoubtedly younger !

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#657 Post by ian16th » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:06 am

Capetonian wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:39 pm
From where we regress to the way those mental dwarves, the Frogs, count. Four twenties ten seven = 97. To confuse the enemy, but they confuse themselves.
Mind you who would want to write down a Frog's phone number anyway?
One thing the French speaking Belgians did was invent words for 70 & 90!
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#658 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:09 am

The Swiss did it first. Let's not credit the Walloons with anything.

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#659 Post by ian16th » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:17 am

Capetonian wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:09 am
The Swiss did it first. Let's not credit the Walloons with anything.
Every day is a school day!

I didn't know that, but I've only spent 3 days in French speaking Switzerland, a 'sales conference' in Montreux, that passed in an alcoholic haze.
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Re: Rant of the Day v2.

#660 Post by OFSO » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:11 am

German: "vier und zwanzig" = 24.
Time, "halb acht" or half eight is 07:30, not half past eight.

Catalan: special system for telling time, no word for half so "dos quarts" or two quarters. "Five to eight" in Catalan would be "It is missing five minutes of one quarter before eight" or "......of four quarters before eight'.

One aspect of Catalan language exam is being shown depictions of clockface and having to tell the time. Quickly ! Even Catalans get it wrong.

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