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#1 Post by probes » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:23 am

- nothing personal, just wondering - could a prince (or queen, for that matter) be arrested for some serious traffic incident?

Police speak to Philip for not wearing seatbelt

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#2 Post by Capetonian » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:37 am

Apparently the Queen is immune from prosecution. Other members of her family, including the DoE, are not.

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#3 Post by Alisoncc » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:54 am

Two days later, pictures in the Daily Mail and the Sun appeared to show the duke, 97, driving alone on the Sandringham estate in a replacement Freelander, without a seatbelt.
No necessity to wear seatbelts when driving on private property. No story there.
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#4 Post by Smeagol » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 am

Similarly, passenger in other car involved in the accident with the Duke has said that no-one from the royal family has contacted them.

Why would they? If one is involved in an accident making direct contact with the other party, whoever they are and whoever you are, is very unusual. Why would 'The Family' be any different?
However, according to the witness who assisted the DoE from his overturned vehicle, the Duke's major concern was the passengers in the other vehicle. That is what he said on our local TV news here in the wilds of Norfolk.

(and, yes, I know 'eye witnesses' are often mistaken and news reports are sometimes less than entirely accurate)
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#5 Post by ian16th » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:15 am

Smeagol wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 am
Similarly, passenger in other car involved in the accident with the Duke has said that no-one from the royal family has contacted them.

Why would they? If one is involved in an accident making direct contact with the other party, whoever they are and whoever you are, is very unusual. Why would 'The Family' be any different?
However, according to the witness who assisted the DoE from his overturned vehicle, the Duke's major concern was the passengers in the other vehicle. That is what he said on our local TV news here in the wilds of Norfolk.

(and, yes, I know 'eye witnesses' are often mistaken and news reports are sometimes less than entirely accurate)
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#6 Post by Boac » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:50 pm

In the time-honoured tradition of all aviation fora, should we not dissect and analyse the 'accident?

The apparent excuse offered by Phil was that 'the sun dazzled him' as he pulled out. Accident 1500 UK time. This image shows a pull-out heading about 240 and looking about 170 to check he is clear?

What say the jury?

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#7 Post by om15 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:00 pm

If the sun dazzled him he shouldn't have pulled out.
Had this been a 97 year old fish monger the press would be howling for a ban on over 80s or some such.

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#8 Post by Magnus » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:01 pm

All prosecutions in England are, I believe, in the name of the Queen. Tricky.

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#9 Post by probes » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:10 pm

yeah, even though I can really sympathise, remembering well how my late father was depressed due to the ban on driving. Even this summer, when he was dying already. it's probably like you've lost 'a function', like walking?

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#10 Post by Capetonian » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:12 pm

In the case of The Crown vs. H M Queen Elizabeth II ............... oh .... maybe not.

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#11 Post by Magnus » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:03 pm

Cape, it's a bit like the old Civil Service Code, i.e. the employment handbook. Each page had in the footer TINALEA. No the typist who drafted it, but This Is Not A Legally Enforceable Agreement. As it's HM's Civil Service, you couldn't take action based on The Code, as any case would be HM v HM.

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#12 Post by Capetonian » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:59 pm

passenger in other car involved in the accident with the Duke has said that no-one from the royal family has contacted them.
I don't understand why a Royal Household secretary can't write to the other parties, and without in any way admitting liability say something along the lines of :
"HRH Prince Philip has asked me to write to you to convey his wishes to you for a speedy recovery from any injury and distress you may have incurred in last week's collision."
It implies no liability, would get the women to STFU, and would be a decent gesture. Unless there is a legal reason not to have any contact, it's what I would be inclined to do.

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#13 Post by Woody » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:33 pm

Another little known fact, HMQ can put her luggage on to an aircraft without it having any security checks, rest of the Firm treated as ordinary SLF :)
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#14 Post by Stoneboat » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:41 pm

I wonder if the Ozmates still have the Royal Turd on a plaque stashed away somewhere.

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#15 Post by Undried Plum » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:59 pm

Frau Saxe-Coburg-Gotha's next of kin are not completely exempt from RTA prosecutions. Her daughter was fined for speeding.

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#16 Post by Undried Plum » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:01 pm

Boac wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:50 pm
The apparent excuse offered by Phil was that 'the sun dazzled him' as he pulled out.
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#17 Post by ricardian » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:26 am

Stoneboat wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:41 pm
I wonder if the Ozmates still have the Royal Turd on a plaque stashed away somewhere.
Wasn't that the Chess Champion plaque on the Royal Yacht Britannia?
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#18 Post by ian16th » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:52 am

ricardian wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:26 am
Stoneboat wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:41 pm
I wonder if the Ozmates still have the Royal Turd on a plaque stashed away somewhere.
Wasn't that the Chess Champion plaque on the Royal Yacht Britannia?
I understood it to be a Petty Officer on the Britannia that 'rescued' it and somehow preserved it.
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Re: Prince and Police

#19 Post by Boac » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:49 am

I recall PC's visit to 43 Sqn Leuchars in the 70's and much digging around the ground outside the toilet wall thereafter. :))

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