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#301 Post by Ex-Ascot » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:57 pm

And another one. Wish I could get my hands on these b@stards.

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#302 Post by Ex-Ascot » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:37 pm

Named and funny old thing an American.

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#303 Post by ian16th » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:31 am

Just found this one.



The lion lost, but scored some points.
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#304 Post by Ex-Ascot » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:57 am

The lion lost, but scored some points.

Not enough points. Also what is this with I think four guys shooting at once. I thought that the idea was one against one. Spastics.
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#305 Post by Bull at a Gate » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:52 am

It was worth starting this thread just to see that video. It was a shame he wasn’t in more pain though.

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#306 Post by Capetonian » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:13 am

From News24.
As the Botswana government rumbles towards the lifting of the ban on hunting its famous wildlife, an authoritative poll in the United States, from which the second greatest number of foreign tourists come, has found overwhelming public disapproval of the plan.

As tourism is a mainstay of Botswana's economy, lifting the hunting ban could, the poll suggests, have severe economic consequences and damage Botswana's international reputation.


The US poll was conducted by the Remington Research Group for Humane Society International. Three in four respondents considered it important to protect elephants from trophy hunting, 78% did not support the proposed culling and 73% believed that if trophy hunting and elephants culls were started, Botswana's image as a leader in wildlife conservation would be harmed.

Zimbabweans transporting goods from South Africa, commonly referred to as "Malayitsha", are seeing their businesses boom as a result of the price hikes on food and fuel in Zimbabwe. Malayitshas reside in South Africa and take orders from families ...

The poll follows a Botswana cabinet committee recommendation in February to lift the hunting ban and start culling "surplus" elephants, despite the country's known transboundary elephant population.

The tourism industry and communities benefitting from photographic tourism have yet to be consulted despite claims of extensive consultation. Tourism operators are expecting to be consulted. However it seems that the decision has already been made as at a meeting in Gabarone, Botswana's Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Conservation and Tourism, Kitso Mokaila, insisted that his country would go ahead with its decision on hunting. "We will not back off and change our minds in terms of what we are going to do. As HATAB (Hospitality and Tourism Association of Botswana) you must remember where your bread is buttered and support us."

Banned trophy hunting

Botswana banned trophy hunting in 2014. After the ban went into effect, the country became an increasingly popular tourist destination for travellers who want to support ecotourism and the country's iconic wildlife.

In 2018, travel and tourism in Botswana experienced 3.4% growth, contributing $2.52bn or 13.4% to the country's economy and supporting 84 000 jobs or 8.9% of the country's total employment. Three quarters of tourist spend came from international travel'ers.

According to HSI, "with tourism now the second largest contributor to the country's GDP and a significant employer, reinstating trophy hunting and starting elephant culls could hurt the country's economy".

In conjunction with the release of the poll results, more than 87 000 people worldwide signed HSI's petition to Masisi asking him to keep the trophy hunting ban in place and to reject plans to cull the country's elephants. HSI also led a sign-on letter from 33 animal welfare and wildlife conservation organisations from around the world with similar appeals, acknowledging human-wildlife conflict but citing non-lethal mitigation strategies as being far more effective in the long-term.

"Millions of foreign tourists travel to Botswana to shoot majestic wild animals, not with guns, but with their cameras," said Iris Ho, HSI's specialist for wildlife programmes and policy. "Wildlife watching and photographic tourism is on the rise around the world, outstripping the revenue from trophy hunting and the number of trophy hunters by a wide margin.

"The current ban on trophy hunting is a win-win policy for Botswana's economy, for the local community and for the animals. There cannot be a more drastic shift for a country known as a safe haven for elephants to become an elephant canning factory for pet food.

"With poaching of elephants across Africa on the rise, legalised hunting and culling would be a severe blow to Africa's rapidly declining elephant population."

A local community NGO, the Ngamiland Council of Non-Governmental Organisations (NCONGO), countered this view. It sent a letter to Masisi in support of hunting, saying it would boost tourism.

"The re-introduction of hunting," it said, "will go a long way in alleviating rural poverty by re-introducing tourism benefits lost in 2014 when the hunting moratorium was initiated".

It added that "as communities, we do not take kindly to those who are attacking our Government and initiatives meant to re-introduce hunting and uplift our livelihoods and reduce human-wildlife conflicts in our local areas". It did not provide data to support its claims.

Surveys show that many visitors choose Botswana as their safari destination specifically because of its firm anti-hunting stance.

Leading tour operators have stated that the proposal goes against everything the country stands for and its implementation would be regressive and could harm ecotourism.

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#307 Post by Ex-Ascot » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:44 am

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#308 Post by ian16th » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:25 pm

I'd like to see the car!

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#309 Post by Woody » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:28 am

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#310 Post by OFSO » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:14 pm

According to the Daily Fail, photos they printed of the remains of the poacher are 'alarming' or 'disturbing' or something similar. Good job they didn't see the dining room at the Russian Hotel after Sunday Lunch yesterday. Or my freezer, come to that.
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#311 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:57 pm

“In other countries, rangers have to fire warning shots. Here, we don’t. Poaching in Eswatini is very dangerous.”

One likes the sound of this place, Eswatini. Seems to be mercifully free of the usual Yarbies and Murricanes.

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#312 Post by ian16th » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:40 pm

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#313 Post by Slasher » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:51 am

Aww... Kimba is all growed up now and just wanted to play! :)

Silly bloody Nortjé almost qualifies for the Darwin Award.

On second thought the dumb gIt does qualify.

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#314 Post by Capetonian » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:12 pm

Another elephant butchered by idiots.
Trophy hunter ‘slaughters second rare large-tusked elephant in Zimbabwe’

Same man reportedly killed record-breaking elephant ‘in its prime’ in 2015

The elephant was shot dead in the Gonarezhou Safari area of Zimbabwe ( JWK Safaris/Facebook )

A trophy hunter has reportedly shot dead a rare large-tusked elephant in Zimbabwe, four years after killing the largest elephant hunted in Africa in three decades.

Photographs of the huge elephant show it on its side on the ground after it was killed in Gonarezhou National Park.

The hunt was apparently organised by JWK Safaris who posted the image to their Facebook page. In the photos two men can be seen with their faces blurred

The post, which was subsequently deleted, appeared to name a “professional hunter” as the man who killed the elephant.

The post read: “Morning Hunters. Here are two photos of a trophy elephant bull that was hunted yesterday in the Gonarezhou Safari areas of Zimbabwe.
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“These tusks have not been weighed yet.

“This is an exceptional Gonarezhou trophy bull with long, thick and symmetrical tusks that are typical of the Gonarezhou and Kruger gene.”

According to AfricaGeographic.com the hunter is the same person who shot dead a bull elephant in 2015 estimated to be the largest killed since 1986.

At the time, the hunters reportedly claimed the hunt was ethical as the elephant was past his breeding years. However, elephant experts later said the bull was 35-40 years old and was of prime breeding age


There is concern regarding the loss of the genes that such a large tusker carries.

Elephants are now believed to be growing smaller tusks because poaching and hunting has removed so many big-tusked elephants from the gene pool, the National Geographic said in 2015.

The elephants apparently targeted by JWK Safaris roam between national parks and the adjacent hunting areas, the organisation says on their website: “All of the Zimbabwean hunting concessions that JWK Safaris have on offer are open to the adjoined National Parks that serve as feeder parks to the hunting areas.”

The website adds: “These are serious hunter hunts in big game country. We book on average 60 big game hunters a year in Zimbabwe and have done so for some years now.”

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#315 Post by Ex-Ascot » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 am

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#316 Post by Capetonian » Sun May 05, 2019 9:25 am

'The most prolific hunter on Earth': Sickening boasts of the shameless killer who’s friends with former King of Spain and slaughtered 4,000 animals

Tony Sanchez-Arino, 89, is a close friend of Spain’s former King Juan Carlos
In five years he has killed 13 elephants, ten buffalo, one lion and two leopards

With 4,000 animal kills to his name, including hundreds of lions, Tony Sanchez-Arino is perhaps the most prolific hunter on Earth.

The 89-year-old Spaniard’s appalling lifetime tally of kills includes 1,317 elephants, 127 black rhino, 167 leopards and 2,093 buffalo, along with 340 lions.
No surprise really coming from a nation that makes ritual cruelty to animals into a national carnival.

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#317 Post by Capetonian » Mon May 06, 2019 8:43 pm

African nations call for an end to ivory ban


African nations home to more than half the world’s population of elephants on Monday called for an end to the ban on sales of ivory.

Delegates from six countries attended a summit in Botswana this week where they discussed how to persuade the world to lift the 30-year-old ban imposed by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, CITES.

The attendees, which included heads of state from Botswana, Zambia, Zimbabwe and Namibia, stressed they want to be able to sell huge stockpiles of ivory to boost funds for conservation and anti-poaching.

Mokweetsi Masisi, the president of Botswana, said on his arrival at Kusane that the summit's theme was: "Towards a common vision for the management of our elephants."

He added: "This is meant to generate a better understanding of elephant management and its associated challenges… other heads of state and ministers from the Kavango-Zambezi Trans-Frontier Conservation Area, as well as experts from southern Africa will address the escalating human wildlife conflict that exits in the region,” he said.

Fulton Mangwanya, director of Zimbabwe’s Parks and Wildlife Management Authority said as he left Harare for the summit: "We are fighting tooth and nail with our enemies so that we are allowed to trade in our wildlife resources. The main contention is the elephants which we (Zimbabwe) are not allowed to benefit from. These are the issues that we want to defend as a region."

The summit at a tourist lodge in northeast Botswana featured presentations on managing elephant populations in the face of urban sprawl and rampant poaching.

Mr Masisi also raised ending the nation’s four-year-old hunting ban. Efforts to manage elephant populations in southern Africa were “subjected to constant media glare, with much of this coverage ignoring the plight of rural communities who bear the brunt of living with elephants,” he said.

Botswana has a population of 130,000 elephants, more than a quarter of the total on the continent. Namibia, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Zambia allow hunting on the grounds that it funds conservation efforts.

“Botswana is determined to reintroduce sustainable-use conservation but is committed to engaging with all parties concerned before implementation,” said Botswana’s environment minister Kitso Mokaila.

But conservationists said reversing the hunting ban would damage Botswana’s international reputation as a luxury safari destination.

Tourism is the country’s second highest earner of foreign currency after diamonds. Zimbabwe’s spokesman for its Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, Tinashe Farawo, told delegates: “We must be allowed to sell and benefit from these animals.”

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#318 Post by Capetonian » Sat May 25, 2019 12:15 pm

‘Horrific beyond imagination’ or ‘the will of the people’? The bitter debate on elephant hunting in Botswana

Botswana has Africa's biggest elephant population

Oliver Smith, Digital Travel Editor

24 May 2019 • 9:45am

Botswana, renowned as a luxury safari destination, has lifted its ban on elephant hunting, provoking anger from conservationists – but support from other quarters.

The country has the largest elephant population in Africa, which experts estimate has tripled over the last 30 years to as many as 160,000. Most of these roam freely and farmers face a struggle to prevent the animals from damaging crops and property. The move, which overturns a ban introduced in 2014 by then-president Ian Khama, a keen environmentalist, is widely seen as an attempt to woo rural voters ahead of an election in October.

“Botswana has taken a decision to lift the hunting suspension,” the country’s environment ministry said in a statement. It said a review had found that “the number and high levels of human-elephant conflict and the consequent impact on livelihoods was increasing.”

“The general consensus from those consulted was that the hunting ban should be lifted,” it added, vowing that hunting would be re-started “in an orderly and ethical manner.”

Among those critical of the decision is Brian Jackman, Telegraph Travel’s safari expert.

“It would seem that Botswana now has a president with no feeling for elephants or any understanding of the damage he is doing to the country’s progressive approach towards wildlife conservation,” he said. “This is the man who was recently condemned for giving three African leaders stools made from elephant feet, and who set up the study group that not only advocated a return to trophy hunting but also proposed the creation of canning factories to turn elephant meat into pet food.

“Botswana’s international reputation for being Africa’s ultimate safari holiday destination is at risk. Why would anyone want to watch elephants, knowing those same animals could be shot by trophy hunters the very next day? That is the question all potential visitors to Botswana should ask themselves.”

“Horrific beyond imagination” was the reaction of Paula Kahumba, CEO of Wildlife Direct in Kenya. She described hunting as “an archaic approach” to dealing with conflicts between animals and people.

Botswana-born Dr Mike Chase, founder of Elephants Without Borders, also raised fears about the impact on the nation’s tourism industry. “We have got to consider our international reputation as being a bastion for elephant conservation,” he said. “We rely heavily on ecotourism – it’s our second largest foreign exchange earner – and the international traveller is now a responsible traveller and likes to support conservation-minded agendas.

“The implications of elephant hunting and culling I believe will have significant consequences on our economy… and undermine our international reputation as being a stronghold for elephant conservation.”

But many are angry at what they see as Western interference in Botswana’s domestic affairs. “By sacrificing 700 elephants per year we’re likely going to save more,” Erik Verreynne, a wildlife veterinarian and consultant based in Gaborone, Botswana, told the New York Times. He added that “antagonism” against Western interference posed a greater threat to conservation than hunting.

“Poor rural Africans are becoming more resentful of being told how to manage their wildlife by Western do-gooders,” said Graham Boynton, founder of Community Conservation Fund Africa (CCFA) and former editor of Telegraph Travel. “It’s easy for Westerners to get sentimental about Africa’s wildlife. Try living in a remote village in Botswana where increasingly elephants trample your crops and smash your huts.

“The democratically-elected Botswana government has embarked on an extensive consultation process and [its decision] reflects the will of the people.”

Boynton cited Namibia as a destination where well-managed hunting has helped conservation.

“In Namibia a government-led multi-purpose wildlife economy – including hunting – has helped restore the country’s wildlife populations almost to pre-colonial levels,” he claimed.

“Namibia is probably Africa’s major conservation success story and although there is some poaching it is kept to a minimum because the communities benefit financially from the wild animals and have become protectors.
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“Kenya, where hunting was banned in 1977, has taken the opposite position and for the past 40 years has been anti-hunting. Unfortunately, that hasn’t stopped poaching or habitat loss. There is no incentive for the rural population to protect animals from which they gain no benefit.”

He added: “African wildlife conservation is a complicated business that requires careful, considered examination, and simple, thoughtless sloganeering should be avoided at all times.”

Save the Elephants’ Founder, Iain Douglas-Hamilton, said the decision to allow elephant hunting, while “morally repugnant”, was unlikely to have a significant impact on the growth of Botswana’s elephant populations. Of more concern, he believes, is the country’s “intention to lobby for the re-opening of trade in ivory”.

He added: “The global momentum towards banning all trade in elephant tusks has seen huge success, and China’s 2018 closure of its domestic ivory market - the world’s biggest - was a huge step forward in helping reduce demand. Seeking to re-open trade in ivory risks fuelling a renewed demand and dooming the elephant populations in those countries where they are less well protected than in Botswana.”

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#320 Post by Capetonian » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:04 am

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................ I rose early, left my hotel in the centre of Pamplona, and wound my way north to the narrow alley of Cuesta de Santo Domingo.

Here was the bulk of the 851-metre journey I was attempting – a long, self-contained strip with no obvious options for exit. It must have taken me four minutes to reach its end at walking pace – and by the time I had done so, I was wondering why anyone would try to follow the same route with a 1,400-pound bull careening along behind them in a furious frenzy.

They do, though – and hundreds of young men (it is almost always young men) will go where many others have sprinted and fallen over the course of this week, as the Festival of San Fermin (July 6-15) holds sway in what is one of northern Spain’s most intriguing cities.
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Some would die for the “privilege”. Since 1925, 15 people have been killed in the process, gored or trampled under the hooves of these heavy bovines – the most recent fatality in 2009. Up to 300 people are injured every year. It is a brutal proposition.

And for none more so than the bull. Six of them make this harried excursion to the bull-ring each day. All six of them are slaughtered on the tip of a matador’s sword at some moment in the ensuing hours. Blood pours onto the sand, the audience roars, the party continues.

And there are plenty of voices which declare it to be a disgrace. The League Against Cruel Sports (LACS) is unequivocal in its condemnation. Of the encierro, it states that “each morning many bulls are forced to run a kilometre down the cobblestone streets of the town, chased by cheering participants and spectators. Once released, the bulls are frightened with gun shots and kicked and hit by jeering spectators, often down concrete or cobbled streets which they slip and slide on, occasionally suffering broken legs and other injuries in the process.”

The protest group has long placed pressure on tour operators who offer packages to the festival, naming and “shaming” those who facilitate access. Airbnb, Kayak, EasyJet, STA Travel and TripAdvisor are among those who have stopped promoting the event following pressure from animal rights groups, but others – the LACS website mentions First Festival, PP Travel, Festival Adventures, The Backpacker Tour Company and Stoke Travel – continue.

Their perspective is understandable. And yet, there is clearly a disconnection between those who consider bull-fighting an abomination, and the estimated one million carousers who throng the lanes of Pamplona for nine days each July – and thoroughly enjoy the process.

Did being so absorbed by this merry swirl make me an apologist for bloodsports? I didn’t, and don’t, think so. And I confess that I haven’t been in Pamplona for San Fermin, nor seen a bull cut down in its arena.

But I must also confess that I have watched a corrida de toros.

A few months after being in Pamplona, I found myself in Seville while a festival was taking place at its vast bull-fighting temple La Maestranza. Perhaps it was the bellow of the crowd which pulled me in, perhaps morbid curiosity, perhaps a stubborn belief that I should witness what is often defended as a Spanish tradition with my own eyes before being able to deride it. Whatever the reason, tickets were available, and I took my place under a blazing sun to gaze at a horror show.

The perceived romance and ritual of the corrida – the costumes, the carnival atmosphere – vanished almost immediately, replaced by the desperate reality. What seems – in those colourful images in establishments like Bar Gaucho – to be ballet; athletic combat between man and beast; a meeting of warriors – is more like a back-street brawl where a lone victim is severely out-numbered (seven to one), and softened up by henchmen (including picadores – men on horseback, armed with lances), before the gang-leader strides in to deliver thecoup de grace. It is an awful spectacle, the bull staggering around the ring, its life squirting from its wounds. I left at the end of the fourth fight (there are six in a session), unable to stomach any more, illusions shattered.

Do I regret paying to watch this series of assassinations? No – I wanted to be able to comment from a position of knowledge.

Would I do so again? No, never.

But the problem for opponents of bloodsports is that, while there has been a growing rejection of bull-fighting in Spain (notably in Catalonia, which banned it in 2010; Barcelona’s enormous arena La Monumental is now largely disused), in corrida hotspots like Pamplona and Seville, it is still practically a religion, where mass is unlikely to be cancelled.

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