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Bad CRM clip

#1 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:57 am

I have been trying to find the clip from a WWII movie where the captain has an argument with the first officer and slaps him. I have promised to send the clip to a WWII veteran but I can't locate it. So any help will be most welcome.

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Re: Bad CRM clip

#2 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:16 am

I think it is John Wayne if that helps.

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#3 Post by Slasher » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:28 am

RiS it's The High And The Mighty.

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Re: Bad CRM clip

#4 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:26 am

Thanks to both of you!

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Re: Bad CRM clip

#5 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:57 am

I knew a Yarpie sqn cdr used to punch his copilots so hard they would have a numb arm. Met him going through a doorway on his station, got a double hand punch under my rib cage. Winded me.

'Great bloke' much admired, made Air Marshal. In today's world he would have been ousted as a bully.

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Re: Bad CRM clip

#6 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:48 pm

RiS - this is the bit you need

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#7 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:13 pm

One of my basic flying course guys had a bruise on his right side from where his instructor used to keep elbowing him in the ribs; the guy made fast jet. Another had an instructor who would slap him round the head, but since we wore helmets this caused far more pain to the instructor than the student; he was chopped at Valley and went Canberras.
My instructor was the most vicious of the lot, he used........satire

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Re: Bad CRM clip

#8 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Boac, thanks a lot for the clip.

F3, I will have a look on your clip. I have an input to present as soon as time is available.

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#9 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:30 am

Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:13 pm
we wore helmets this caused far more pain to the instructor than the student

Legend has it that in the local Air Force academy, helmets had to be a tight fit to avoid them spinning around when hit by the instructor.

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Re: Bad CRM clip

#10 Post by boing » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:39 am

Once had a great Ugandan student. After burning holes in the sky for a while I would thump him on his helmet and say "OK. take us home". It got to the stage where if I did not thump him on the head he thought he had done a bad trip.

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#11 Post by Slasher » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:54 am

I was raised in that airline age where being severely yelled at by the training captain meant you were making progress. Never been thumped though.

"What the fcuk are you doing Rod?"
"The Cairns DME arrival. What's wrong?"
"What's your altitude?"
"Passing um...5000."
"So what's missing?"
"Nothing I can see."
"WHAT??!!"
"Ah...the approach checklist please."
"That's better ya dumb sh!t. And FFS don't forget it again!"

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