Covid - 19: How is it affecting you?

[Undried Plum]

"An electric car can do a 380 mile round trip without having to attend a temple of Big Oil either before or after the journey(s). That does make them a bit special"

How long does it take to re-charge using only solar charging without plugging into the grid?

In the context of the topic, I don't understand the question.

[Capetonian]

I wasn't addressing your question about the 5 mile limit which I agree is ill-conceived, pointless and idiotic. (The limit, not your question!)
I was commenting generally on the passionate defence that E-car owners always come out with.

[TheGreenGoblin]

I was commenting generally on the passionate defence that E-car owners always come out with.

Tesla drivers know they are superior...

[Undried Plum]

Have a Tesla in your life for a week or two, and you'll learn that the cars (not the drivers!) really are "superior".

[OFSO]

Indeed yes. There's a Belgian registered one appears in our community in Spain each summer. Brought down on a trailer as due to its superiority it can't drive non-stop from Belgium to Spain by itself, unlike inferior petrol and diesel powered contrivances.

[Capetonian]

They are superbly built, with many excellent design features, and perform and handle brilliantly. That is not what we are debating.

For people who do longer journeys without the time or possibility of waiting while they recharge,they are not fit for purpose. This limitation may only apply to some owners, but it is nevertheless a significant limitation for such people.

What if you run out of charge in a traffic jam on a motorway on a cold dark wet night? You had plenty of charge to get home when you set out, but there was an accident, all lanes blocked, and there was no way to leave the motorway. Night fell, it was cold and snowing hard, so you had to have the heating and lights on, possibly the heated windscreens as well, probably the radio or CD. Your phone battery is nearly flat so you have to plug it in to charge so that you can let wifey/mistress/LBC radio/all and sundry know that you are stuck.

Do you
a) walk to the nearest service station and pick up a new Tesla battery (over 500 kg.), cough up £2000-3000, sling it over your shoulder, walk back to the car and fit the new battery, which is the whole floor pan?
b) push the car (weight roughly 2 tonnes) to the nearest charging station?
c) curse the day you were talked into buying the bloody thing and wish you'd bought a petrol car and kept 5 litres in the boot for such events?

[Seenenough]

"An electric car can do a 380 mile round trip without having to attend a temple of Big Oil either before or after the journey(s). That does make them a bit special"

How long does it take to re-charge using only solar charging without plugging into the grid?

In the context of the topic, I don't understand the question.

How long will it take to charge your Tesla using only a Solar Charger to re-charge the batteries?

[Rwy in Sight]

They are superbly built, with many excellent design features, and perform and handle brilliantly. That is not what we are debating.

For people who do longer journeys without the time or possibility of waiting while they recharge,they are not fit for purpose. This limitation may only apply to some owners, but it is nevertheless a significant limitation for such people.

What if you run out of charge in a traffic jam on a motorway on a cold dark wet night? You had plenty of charge to get home when you set out, but there was an accident, all lanes blocked, and there was no way to leave the motorway. Night fell, it was cold and snowing hard, so you had to have the heating and lights on, possibly the heated windscreens as well, probably the radio or CD. Your phone battery is nearly flat so you have to plug it in to charge so that you can let wifey/mistress/LBC radio/all and sundry know that you are stuck.

Do you
a) walk to the nearest service station and pick up a new Tesla battery (over 500 kg.), cough up £2000-3000, sling it over your shoulder, walk back to the car and fit the new battery, which is the whole floor pan?
b) push the car (weight roughly 2 tonnes) to the nearest charging station?
c) curse the day you were talked into buying the bloody thing and wish you'd bought a petrol car and kept 5 litres in the boot for such events?

Cape, I think UP or a member of TOP who also owns a TESLA said it that you plan the drive, drive the plan.I take there is a contingency on the plan.

[Seenenough]

Google gives this answer

"How long does it take to charge a Tesla with solar panels?

In southern California, that will give you about 140 Watt Hours (0.14 kWhr) of energy per day. Assuming parasitic drain of about 10 Watts in the Tesla (probably a very generous assumption), it will then take about 1200 days (over 3 years) to charge an 85 kWhr battery."

So up in "sunny"Scotland we can double the charge time.

Fuel of sorts is burned somewhere Plumb so that power can be reloaded into your Tesla.

[Undried Plum]

Fuel of sorts is burned somewhere Plumb so that power can be reloaded into your Tesla.

Sadly, even here is usually sunless Scotland. Covid virus can't yet be used as a fuel.

[G-CPTN]

Google gives this answer

"How long does it take to charge a Tesla with solar panels?

In southern California, that will give you about 140 Watt Hours (0.14 kWhr) of energy per day. Assuming parasitic drain of about 10 Watts in the Tesla (probably a very generous assumption), it will then take about 1200 days (over 3 years) to charge an 85 kWhr battery."

Does it not depend on the size of the solar panel(s)?

[Seenenough]

Google gives this answer

"How long does it take to charge a Tesla with solar panels?

In southern California, that will give you about 140 Watt Hours (0.14 kWhr) of energy per day. Assuming parasitic drain of about 10 Watts in the Tesla (probably a very generous assumption), it will then take about 1200 days (over 3 years) to charge an 85 kWhr battery."

Does it not depend on the size of the solar panel(s)?

G,Plumb would have to build himself quite a large solar farm to charge his Tesla without resorting to using power that is generated by burning some sort of fossil fuel.

[Undried Plum]

Plum did so. And built a wonky wind turbine too.

That's totally irrelevant to the thread.

Let's get back to what is actually quite a topical subject of discussion in the current environment (geddit?)

[Seenenough]

Plum did so. And built a wonky wind turbine too.

That's totally irrelevant to the thread.

Let's get back to what is actually quite a topical subject of discussion in the current environment (geddit?)

You were the one telling us how wonderful your Tesla is.

[Undried Plum]

Good night, Seen.

Out.

[llondel]

Google gives this answer

"How long does it take to charge a Tesla with solar panels?

In southern California, that will give you about 140 Watt Hours (0.14 kWhr) of energy per day. Assuming parasitic drain of about 10 Watts in the Tesla (probably a very generous assumption), it will then take about 1200 days (over 3 years) to charge an 85 kWhr battery."

Does it not depend on the size of the solar panel(s)?

G,Plumb would have to build himself quite a large solar farm to charge his Tesla without resorting to using power that is generated by burning some sort of fossil fuel.

If you wanted to do it as a seriously fast charge then yes, you'd need a large array. What we have here probably generates about 60-70kWH in a day, weather permitting. Useless in Scotland for much of the year though, up there a wind turbine would probably be more use. I don't know what sort of weedy solar installation was behind that quote - a typical single panel as found on houses is good for over 200W (I think ours are about 275W, although I've never seen more than about 230W/panel after all the conversion losses), and we have 34 of them. I suspect it's one of those little top-up units which are designed to keep a 12V battery from discharging while a car is idle rather than anything seriously designed to recharge a battery.

[Undried Plum]

Sadly, electricity is not going to electrocute bugs like Covid.

Solar power, sans electric aspect, does have some promise, though.

UV seems to kill the bug (Covid, not wossisname).

Furthermore, UV-generated Vitamin D is definitely beneficial.

[OFSO]

Solar cells banned in Spain after biggest power utility snuggled up to the Spanish government, paid bribes, sorry ' 'contributions' and got solar power classified as 'unfair competition'. We have a solar farm nearby, was supplying power to Roses town, now disconnected for that reason. I don't know any householder that had his application for a solar installation approved.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Google gives this answer

"How long does it take to charge a Tesla with solar panels?

In southern California, that will give you about 140 Watt Hours (0.14 kWhr) of energy per day. Assuming parasitic drain of about 10 Watts in the Tesla (probably a very generous assumption), it will then take about 1200 days (over 3 years) to charge an 85 kWhr battery."

Does it not depend on the size of the solar panel(s)?

G,Plumb would have to build himself quite a large solar farm to charge his Tesla without resorting to using power that is generated by burning some sort of fossil fuel.

Wind power. Scotland and Britain is noted for good access to the zephyr wind meine Freund!

If UP lives further north he might attach a cable to a flock of Arctic terns and walk close to their eggs. That will certainly agitate the bird and the dipoles...

Absolutely foul birds in the breeding season who will attack and dive bomb at will.

[Boac]

Problem with wind turbines is they kill birds. The Chump told us. Rule that out of the 'green' equation.