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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#481 Post by Woody » Sat May 25, 2019 11:34 am

Have you been overdoing the Shiraz :-o
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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#482 Post by Capetonian » Sat May 25, 2019 12:08 pm

It would need to be something a lot stronger than Shiraz to be able to think like that!

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#483 Post by Capetonian » Tue May 28, 2019 10:23 pm

I am saddened at the decline of things in ZA. Ramaphosa may have slowed the decline but I wonder if he can turn it round. I was not convinced by his rhetoric at his recent investiture.

I recently had news of a friend of mine, educated, decent, Afrikaans/English speaking but also fluent in Xhosa, in his early 60s, who has been a victim of the racial discrimination now being abundantly practised in the country. He has worked in travel and tourism as long as I've known him, over 40 years, in the last few years running a small hotel in the winelands. Being Afrikaans is often, understandably, associated with being racist, but he was anything but, and did a lot of work in the local poor non-white communities, running projects to help them to help themselves, employing and uplifting black and coloured people in his small business, giving them handouts, driving them home at night into the often dangerous townships, and so on.

The thanks he got was that some of them stole from him and from the business, contributing to its demise. It was not just a few isolated incidents, it was orchestrated and deliberate pilferage by various means over a period of time. You might think that they would have realised that they were pulling the rug from under their own feet, but seemingly not.

At the age of 60+, he's looking for a job. He has as much chance of finding work as I do of flying to the sun by flapping my hands. There is no social security or unemployment worth speaking of, and his state pension is miserable. The maximum that anyone can get is R1770/month, less than £100. He gets less than half that as he was self-employed for a long time and foolishly didn't make any provision. He has no savings or resources.

One can argue, justifiably, that people like him, and there are many, up to 400,000 poor whites according to some sources, are the victims of their own improvidence, but it saddens me deeply. It makes me realise how much I have to be thankful for .... there but for the grace of God go I, although I like to think I would have been a bit more prudent, but anyone can fall upon hard times.

Cape Town is consistently voted the best tourist destination and city in the world. I wonder how many visitors to this heart-stoppingly beautiful city and country realise the extent of poverty and suffering which is concealed from them.

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#484 Post by Capetonian » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:08 pm

This murder of a white woman who lived on a remote barely made news in ZA, let alone outside. Just one of many and the world turns a blind eye to the barbarity being committed by those 'liberated' from Apartheid. We ignore that most of them are under a worse sort of oppression, albeit one that doesn't officially have a name.

Graham Boynton is a journalist who grew up in Rhodesia and ended up being deported from ZA, a country about which he often writes in his capacity as a travel writer, one of the very best.

This article encapsulates much of what is happening in South Africa. It is very sad and depressing.
(Split into two parts due to a restriction on this site).

PART 1
The true story of why this single mother was beaten to death in her South African home


27 June 2019 • 1:00pm

In South Africa’s remote Limpopo province, white farmers feel under attack from incendiary politicians of the Black First Land First movement (BLF) and the militant party EFF. So when Annette Kennealy, a farmer and advocate for their rights and protection, was brutally murdered last month, her family feared she had been killed for her activism. The truth may have been even more shocking – and much closer to home

Ten years ago on a hot summer Sunday I hosted a lunch in my south London garden for my old friend, the South African author and journalist Rian Malan. He brought with him his new girlfriend, a lively, articulate woman with a halo of black curly hair, named Annette Kennealy.

She wore a floaty dress, had twinkling eyes and a mischievous smile. Having recently separated from her husband, the 41-year-old and her two teenage daughters were running a small mountaintop farm in South Africa’s remote Limpopo province. The daughter of a doctor, she had grown up in this far northern part of South Africa close to the Zimbabwean border; although she had gone to Pretoria to do a fine art degree, she returned to Limpopo after graduation.

That afternoon, Kennealy described how she had become incensed at the frequent attacks on South Africa’s white farmers by criminal gangs. Many of the victims, she said, had been subjected to horrific torture. So intense was her passion that not only had she been trained in self-defence but she was now active in a farm-security group that she and neighbours had set up, and was training men, women and children as young as 10 years old in what she called ‘basic farm security, self-defence and shooting’.

As her stories of torture and murder unfolded over lunch, guests fell silent. Here was a weaponised hippie artist who we dubbed Xena the Warrior Princess that afternoon, and whose determination to resist with extreme force was imprinted on our collective memory. She made an indelible impression.

Last month, Kennealy was beaten to death at her home with an iron bar and a hammer. Her body was so disfigured that the neighbour who arrived at the scene with her ex-husband, Martin, would not allow him inside the farmhouse.

In a country where there are on average more than 50 farm murders and hundreds of attacks on farmers, mainly white, and farm workers, mainly black, recorded every year, her death did not even make headline news. Just two weeks earlier, South Africa had held parliamentary elections and although President Cyril Ramaphosa’s African National Congress (ANC) had lost a little ground to its rivals, the Democratic Alliance (DA) and the radical Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF), it won clearly with a 58 per cent share of the vote.

Campaigning concentrated on the struggling economy (unemployment is at almost 27 per cent) and repairing the damage done by Ramaphosa’s corrupt predecessor Jacob Zuma. There was barely a mention of crime or farm murders on the hustings.

Over the past 20 years, South Africa has become one of the most crime-ridden countries in the world and its residents appear to have become inured to violence. Kennealy had become a widely respected political activist, dedicating her life to helping farmers defend themselves against attacks, and counselling victims.

Mmusi Maimane, leader of the DA, for whom she had been a councillor in her local town of Louis Trichardt between 2011 and 2014, tweeted his ‘heartfelt condolences’ and reflected on yet another act of unspeakable violence in a country that seems to specialise in such outrages.

After that first meeting in 2009, Kennealy and I remained in close contact. Every time we spoke, someone she knew had been murdered, and she eventually developed post-traumatic stress disorder. She saw the white rural farming community as soft targets and predicted a race war she believed would eventually consume the country. She cited the incendiary statements of the EFF’s leader Julius Malema, and the even more extreme Andile Mngxitama, head of Black First Land First (BLF), as evidence that a violent campaign was underway to drive white farmers from the land.

She urged doubters to watch YouTube clips of Mngxitama at the launch of BLF’s campaign for this year’s elections, announcing in front of an excitable crowd that ‘we will kill the [white] women, we will kill the children, we will kill anything we find that is in our way, even their dogs and their cats’. The radical anti-apartheid liberation slogan ‘kill the Boer [white farmer]’, constantly chanted at the end of EFF rallies, was also, for Kennealy and her friends, further evidence that a race war was coming.

Within hours of Kennealy’s murder, suspicion fell on one individual but – ironically – it was not a politically motivated extremist with a direct line to what one local observer called ‘the genocide-aires’ (extremists targeting whites), but her assistant and farm worker, 40-year-old Kenny Ramatshimbila. He had worked for her for six years and lived in a cottage at the entrance to her property. Kennealy had always talked of him as her gatekeeper, an early-warning system against the dreaded invaders, and for most of that time it appears he had embraced that role.

However, according to Martin Kennealy, who lives on a neighbouring farm at the bottom of the mountain – the couple were married for 17 years, had two daughters and remained on good terms after their divorce – her relationship with Ramatshimbila was volatile. He told me he had witnessed them having ferocious rows one day and being the best of friends the next. Ramatshimbila called her ‘Mama’, and when she went out with friends, he would be waiting in the car with her dogs, telling her, ‘Come on Mama, it is getting late, we must go home.’

On that fateful day, it was Kennealy’s mother, Kim Labuschagne, who also lives on a farm in the region, who sounded the alarm. The pair had been exchanging WhatsApp messages first thing on Monday (20 May) but by the middle of the day she noticed that her daughter was no longer looking at the messages. By the afternoon she was so concerned that she contacted Kennealy’s daughters, Meghan and Astrid, both based in Stellenbosch, some 1,100 miles away. They tried to call their mother that evening but got no response.

The following morning Meghan called her father and asked him to drive up to the farm. ‘I asked my dad if she had messaged on the Farm Security group. She hadn’t,’ Meghan said. ‘She was usually very good at keeping in touch, especially as things were getting dangerous up there.’

Kennealy’s neighbour and friend Theodorus ‘Doors’ LeRoux was also alerted and made the 30-minute drive up the mountain to the farmhouse ahead of Martin. ‘Doors phoned me as I was driving up to say that Annette had been killed,’ said Martin. ‘When I arrived at the house, Doors came out and stopped me. He said I should not go inside. He was so shocked at what he saw, and he was right – I don’t think I could have coped.’ Later that day the police arrested Ramatshimbila in nearby Mauluma, where he had a small house. They broke down the front door and took him back to the crime scene. Slowly, over the hours that followed, the story of a ferocious struggle emerged.

Over the weekend Ramatshimbila had picked avocados from the farm’s trees and together with Kennealy and her mother had transported them into Louis Trichardt for sale. That evening Kennealy had phoned her mother to say that she was furious as he had gone off for the rest of the weekend, leaving the farm in a mess, and that she’d had to go out in the dark to round up her chickens and cage them, a task that Ramatshimbila would normally have done. On Sunday morning the two had an angry telephone conversation and, according to Labuschagne, ‘Annette said she didn’t like the way he had spoken to her. She said it was very disrespectful.’

What happened next is pieced together from her family’s accounts and police investigations. On Monday morning Kennealy emerged from the shower and must have suspected an intruder because she dressed quickly, grabbed her 9mm Astra pistol and headed into the lounge. There her attacker was waiting for her with an iron bar in their hand.

According to her mother, ‘Despite all her training, and her proficiency in using firearms, Annette must have hesitated.’ Was this because the person standing in front of her was her friend, her employee? The attacker quickly disarmed her, then beat her with the iron bar, breaking both her arms as she tried to defend herself. They then strangled her until she lost consciousness, grabbed a hammer and rained blows on to her head. Her pistol was found, unfired, under the sofa.

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#485 Post by Capetonian » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:10 pm

PART 2

Doubtless, poverty breeds violence, and over the past 25 years, alongside soaring unemployment, it has been a feature of the new South Africa. The crime wave across the country has seen an increase in gang violence, home invasions, street muggings and carjackings, and this together with the dehumanising legacy of 46 years of apartheid in some way explains what Kennealy’s family see as inexplicable. While Labuschagne accepted that this was not a politicised killing perpetrated by militarised outsiders, she insisted, ‘This would not have happened in a country where law and order was in place.’

From his home in the Karoo, Western Cape, Rian Malan, who had maintained a friendship with Kennealy long after their relationship ended, told me that while he held fast to the belief that there were glimmers of hope in the new South Africa, Kennealy felt there was no political solution to the country’s sociopolitical problem. ‘I tried to chaff [convince] her into taking a more positive approach,’ he said. ‘Maybe her death confirms that she was right after all.’

Many South Africans however, like Malan, still cling to the hope of Nelson Mandela’s Rainbow Nation, where all colours, creeds and social classes are embraced. Some political commentators believe the attacks on white farmers are opportunistic and random, a consequence of the yawning chasm between the wealthy and the poor. Fix the economy and all this will go away, they say. And they regard the rantings of Malema and Mngxitama as inconsequential hot air, and think the actions of Kennealy and her compatriots have helped feed the prejudices of the alt-right.
Andile Mngxitama, leader of the Black First Land First party, who preaches violence at political rallies Credit: Getty Images

Meanwhile, the white farmers insist they are on the front line of a crime wave that, combined with Ramaphosa’s recent promises of land redistribution, including ‘expropriation without compensation’, puts the future of South Africa’s agricultural industry in serious jeopardy. This proposed amendment to the constitution, a result of parliamentary pressure from the EFF, has, according to farmers’ leaders, dramatically reduced the value of private land.

They look to neighbouring Zimbabwe’s sudden, violent land invasions that began in 2000 as a portent of things to come. Robert Mugabe’s destructive land-redistribution campaign, which saw howling mobs seizing farms and murdering farmers, reduced a once prosperous agricultural industry to rubble. In 2009 the Zimbabwean economist Eddie Cross estimated the cost of Zimbabwe’s land reform at £15 billion.

The country is now dependent on food aid to feed its people. The South African farmers see this future staring them in the face. However, insiders tell me that Ramaphosa is playing a delicate political game over the land issue. With 72 per cent of private farmland owned by whites, who make up just nine per cent of the population, clearly he has to make significant changes. However, he is a pragmatic businessman who is fully aware of the dangers of decimating the nation’s land value.

Julius Malema, head of the militant EFF party Credit: Getty Images

What is indisputable is that in the 25 years since South Africa was liberated from the yoke of apartheid it has become a dangerous place to be for both black and white citizens. Days after Kennealy’s murder, the local newspapers were reporting the murder of a young white couple whose car had run out of diesel outside Johannesburg. The attackers used the word umlungu (white man) before shooting the couple in cold blood, execution-style.

The cold cruelty visited on farmers and smallholders, often old, relatively defenceless couples, over the past few years has shocked South African society. Victims have been tortured with blowtorches, had their kneecaps penetrated with power drills, been thrown into baths of scalding water.

South Africa is now the eighth most homicidal country in the world, after a handful of Latin American countries (El Salvador, Honduras, Belize and Venezuela) and three Caribbean islands with bad reputations for violent crime. It has the highest murder rate of any country with a population of more than 35 million, according to statistics provided by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNDOC). Last year the number of murders in South Africa topped 20,000 for the first time, an average of 54 a day.

In such a dangerous environment it seemed counter-intuitive for a single woman such as Kennealy to remain on an isolated farm. As it happens, friends and family had tried for years to talk her into giving it up and moving into town. One close friend, Bruce Fordyce, a South African ultramarathon athlete, told me he and his wife Gill spent many weekends with Kennealy on the farm ‘and every time Gill would try to persuade her to leave. Annette replied that she had a gun and, ironically, that she had this wonderful guy Kenny who would warn her if trouble was coming.’

Her daughter Meghan, who grew up on the farm, was another who tried to talk her down from the mountain. ‘I hated living on that farm,’ she said. ‘It was beautiful, the view was amazing but it was too remote. She loved being up there alone and loved it that she could play her music as loud as she liked there but I really didn’t want her to be alone.’

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#486 Post by Woody » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:12 pm

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#487 Post by Woody » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:50 am

Well he would deny it wouldn’t he :((


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#488 Post by ian16th » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:44 pm

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#489 Post by Capetonian » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:16 am

New Law Comes After Nearly 13,000 Perish on South African Roads in 2018

A total of 12,921 people died in road collisions in South Africa in 2018, the Minister of Transport Fikile Mbablula said this weekend, introducing a new law meant to tackle reckless driving with a demerit system that can result in drivers having their licenses taken away.

“We are burying far too many people as a result of crashes,” Mbalula told a media briefing on Sunday. The new law is meant to bring down the number of road deaths.

The law, which has been languishing in various forms and committees since 2013, was signed into law over the weekend. Besides introducing a points demerit system, the legislation deals with penalties, a more up-to-date electronic enforcement system, an infringement appeals tribunal and a driver rehabilitation programme.
Here's the problem :
Nobody knows how many illegal aliens live in South Africa. Estimates up to a million are the norm. They won't have valid driving licences but many of them drive regardless. They are undocumented and unaccountable.
Tens of thousands of South Africans are estimated to have no licence, or fraudulently acquired or forged licences.

Therefore, what is the point of a "new law meant to tackle reckless driving with a demerit system that can result in drivers having their licenses taken away" when so many won't have licences to take away.

Moving on, it isn't even compulsory to have insurance (not even third party) in ZA, and nor is it mandatory to have regular roadworthy (MOT) checks on private cars. So we have an unknown number of cars with no insurance, no roadworthy certificate, and driven by illegal, unlicensed drivers.

Is it any wonder that the death toll is so tragically high?

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#490 Post by Woody » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:59 am

Wonder how many are killed in overloaded minibus taxis X(
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#491 Post by Capetonian » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:47 am

My friend in the Cape Town traffic department used to call them PCVs.
Population control vehicles.

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#492 Post by Woody » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:07 pm

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#493 Post by Capetonian » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:30 pm

It's an inevitable consequence of mass illegal immigration from the rest of Africa.
The locals don't want to work as hard as the immigrants, and they have a sense of entitlement dating back to the apartheid years because they consider themselves to have been disadvantaged and they will carry that burden for generations. They have painted themselves into a corner and now there's no white man to magically get them out of it.
Stupid lazy greedy f*ckwits.

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#494 Post by OFSO » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:31 pm

Can't even be bothered to read an article in today's "Telegraph" about the problems Africa faces over the coming years.....it's just amazing that someone thinks there might be a solution.

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#495 Post by Woody » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:57 pm

Hopefully the situation will improve

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... l#comments
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#496 Post by Capetonian » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:27 am

Israeli tourist gang-raped at Mpumalanga lodge
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... e-20190910?

Cape Town school reeling after dad kills Grade 1 boy then shoots himself
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News ... f-20190910?


This last one is a little bit of light relief, this happened at a place where I quite often go for lunch or dinner. I've seen some human beings that and behaved with less decorum than baboons.
WATCH: More footage of baboon's lunch stop at Cape wine farm as estate reiterates safety
http://www.traveller24.com/FindYourEsca ... 20190910-2?

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#497 Post by Capetonian » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:13 am

During the years of apartheid South Africa was boycotted by many African and western countries.

Because it was one of the few countries in Africa with a decent economy it was always full of illegal immigrants from the rest of Africa who wanted to work there in spite of apartheid and the so-called hardships it inflicted.

As they say, history repeats itself because South Africa is now being boycotted by a number of other African countries because of the attacks targeting the millions of foreigners now living there mostly illegally.

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The story of a modern African farm

#498 Post by Capetonian » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:24 am

Posted under the South African thread as sadly with the savages in charge this is the type of thing that could happen south of the Limpopo as well.
Zimbabwe's farmers look back at 'hell' under Mugabe

At its zenith, the Mount Carmel farm in northern Zimbabwe boasted 500 livestock and shipped its mangoes and lemons to Europe, a continent away.

In 2009, that halcyon time ended abruptly when the farm was seized by thugs operating in the name of Robert Mugabe's land reform.

Ten years later, Mount Carmel has just 15 cows and an overgrown orchard.

"This wonderful land is untapped," said its former owner, Ben Freeth.

He is among the thousands of white farmers violently evicted by Mugabe's land reform policy, which almost at a stroke turned Zimbabwe from a bread basket into a basket case.

He was toppled by his former military allies in 2017, ending a 37-year rule marked by political repression and economic mismanagement, and leaving a nation torn over his legacy.

"Before we had an orchard, now it's a forest," said Sinos Mlauzi, a black Zimbabwean who used to work for Freeth.

"When I heard Mugabe died, I was overjoyed," he said, lifting his cap to show scars left from 2009. "He took away our means of subsistence."

Two dismembered tractors lie in a shed, while a pickup truck outside is riddled with bullet holes.

Brick ruins and an empty swimming pool are all that remains of the Freeths' luxurious farmhouse, which was torched.

Freeth, 50, recalls the six months of "hell" he and his family suffered as mobs repeatedly attacked his property.

"(Mugabe's followers) kicked down the front door and dragged blazing tires inside," said Freeth, sitting in the lush gardens of the house he now occupies in Zimbabwe's capital Harare.

"They were banging on oil drums outside the house. They were threatening my children."

Freeth's employees were beaten with steel rods and his parents-in-law were seriously injured.

The violence culminated on August 30, 2009, when the Freeths returned from church to find their house was in flames.

Mugabe's land reform was launched in 2000 to re-distribute land awarded to whites during British colonial rule, which ended with Mugabe's election in 1980.

Twenty years ago, 18% of the best land belonged to white Zimbabweans, which represented less than one percent of the population.

But the brutal eviction of white farmers, and their replacement by people who often had negligible skills, capital or experience in agriculture, caused a collapse in output, and with it Zimbabwe's economy.

"We have the best climate in the world and we are no longer capable to feed our population," said Freeth.

One third of Zimbabweans are dependent on food aid, according to the United Nations.

READ: OPINION: As Zimbabwe grapples with Mugabe's legacy, who will put the country back together?
Hundreds of farms were placed in the hands of Mugabe's allies and of underqualified, poorly-equiped farmers.

Mount Carmel was awarded to Zimbabwean nationalist and ruling party ZANU-PF supporter Nathan Shamuyarira.

The workforce of 150 employees shrank to less than a tenth of its size, said Mount Carmel's newly-appointed manager, Simon Shema.

"Us blacks, we had no land to cultivate. Mugabe gave us the opportunity to farm," Shema told AFP.

He said he would be heading to Harare for Mugabe's funeral on Saturday to "thank him".

Surrounded by broken-down machinery, Shema was convinced the farm would be running within the next two months.

Paprika, peas and corn would be planted. And the mangoes on the trees - yellowed from the lack of irrigation - would be exported.

"We will start small, and grow," said Shema.

'Stole their education'

Although ZANU-PF acknowledged some of the failures of Mugabe's land reform, it said the benefits were still to come.

"Around 30% of the seized lands are not being used," said Tatenda Gwinji, a ZANU-PF representative in Chegutu. "We are heading in the right direction."

Freeth's former workers have been unemployed for the past decade.

"We had a good life. Now we have nothing, not even food to eat," Peter Assan, 62, told AFP.

"Once the white farmer had left, my children had to stop going to school because we had no money to pay for their fees," he said. "Mugabe stole their education."

"The (land) reform did not accomplish the desired objective," said Mlauzi. "And Mugabe caused productive farmers to flee."

Hopes raised by the change in regime were rapidly quashed.

Mugabe's successor President Emmerson Mnangagwa pledged to revive the economy, but "prices are soaring and our lives are even more difficult," said Mlauzi.

Mugabe's death was a "non-event", said Freeth. "His legacy is still alive. A legacy of injustice, of absolute power and violence."

Behind him, a cross pays tribute to Freeth's father-in-law, buried in a farm he can no longer access.

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#499 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:33 am

Capetonian wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:30 pm
It's an inevitable consequence of mass illegal immigration from the rest of Africa.
The locals don't want to work as hard as the immigrants
....
Stupid lazy greedy f*ckwits.
That's a problem in Europe and Britain too, y'know. ;)))

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Re: Staggering Out Over The Abyss

#500 Post by Capetonian » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:35 am

Agree 100%, it'ss a global phenomenon but I only referred to it in the South African context of this thread.

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