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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#41 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:34 pm

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Perhaps you could leave some money to Shetland, which, when I last looked, albeit from the air, two years ago seemed to have few trees. I guess the wind makes the life of a tree very difficult in those climes.
Shetland's trees are scattered between Bergen and Stavanger!

Orkney has got a tree in the main street of Kirkwall. They are very proud of their tree.

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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#42 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:39 pm

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Check into a luxury hotel and spend the rest of my days there. Never having to step into a kitchen again. Just call room service for food and drink. George V or The Ritz would do fine.
I would be very happy if I never stepped foot into a luxury hotel again in my life. Lived in them for years. Give me a room in a country pub any day.
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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#43 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:53 pm

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Dushan wrote:
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Check into a luxury hotel and spend the rest of my days there. Never having to step into a kitchen again. Just call room service for food and drink. George V or The Ritz would do fine.
Met a guy here in ZA who was a minor member of the Russian nobility. He and his family were exiled in Paris. On his 21st birthday he had an inheritance.

He promptly checked into suite at the George V with members of the chorus of the Folies Bergère; where he stayed until he had spent the lot!
The rest he wasted =))
Lots of minor royalty and nobility from Russia and Poland ended up in South Africa, The first wave, being Russian, after 1917. The next wave being Polish exiles, before 1939 and then a 3rd wave after 1948, mostly comprising of disaffected Germans, including people like General Friedrich von Mellenthin. I took the granddaughter of a Polish countess to my Matric dance... poor girl! =))
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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#44 Post by ian16th » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:56 pm

Didn't we have a thread about Hotels?

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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#45 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:12 pm

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What species of trees are you proposing?

Our local forest (Kielder) is replacing conifers with more broadleaf for replanting clear-felled areas.
For plantations which are intended to mimic some characteristics of the ancient Caledonian forest, I have a list of sixteen native species.

They are, in alphabetical not preferential order:

Alder
(Ash)
Aspen
Birch
Cherry
Elder
(Elm)
Hawthorn
Hazel
Holly
Juniper
Oak
Rowan
Scots Pine
Willow
Yew

The two bracketed ones carry a highly infectious disease and it's currently illegal to transport them.

In the case of Oak, there are two species. One has long stems on the leaves and short stems on the acorns. The other species is the other way around. Both grow in Caledonian forest territory, but each have slightly different preferences for soil type and microclimate. I like to plant both species and let Nature determine which thrives the most. Oak grow to four or five hundred years, so long as the Royal Navy doesn't need it to build ships. A mature oak is a perfect have for all sorts of critters and is a major contribution to the web or life. As a rough rule of thumb, an oak tree will support one species of insect for each year of its life.

There are also two different species of willow. Very fast growing and a tremendous resource for craftsmen

I greatly regret that I can no longer plant Ash. It's fast growing and it produces the best firewood in Britain. It burns very bright and very hot and produces very little residue in the lum. I've got a thousand stems of Ash that I planted in-bye in the 1980s and its a great pleasure to fell and split those stems nowadays.

In addition to the trees, I also plant understorey shrubs such as blaeberry, bog myrtle, heather and sphagnum.

I'm delighted whenever I hear that those abominable plantations of Sitka spruce are being replaced with diverse native trees. Those ghastly dense stands of conifer monocultures are an ecological desert and should be obliterated. Nature abhors monocultures. They were felt to be necessary after WW1 because trench warfare consumes unbelievable quantities of timber, Something like three tons for every yard of trenchline. In 1918 a secret Report concluded that in the absence of supplies from Canada due to the U-boat menace, Blighty would run out of timber within six to eighteen months. After the Armistice the Forestry Commission was set up with a brief to create hundreds of square miles of fast growing conifers just in case The War To End All Wars wasn't.

When doing my plantations, I have eight so far with two more in the planning phase, I now refuse to apply for gumment grants. The (now former) Forestry Commission demands a spacing of 3 metres for deciduous and 2.5 metres for coniferous. The won't pay the grant until that density has been certified. I made that mistake in the late '80s and early 90s. The result of 'instant forest' now, 30 years later, is that those bits of woodland have a horribly unnatural feel as all the boles are of the same diameter and looking at the woodland from outside the boundary you can see that the crown are all of the same height. Natural woodland never looks like that.

I now prefer to eschew the 'free money' and plant a parcel of land over a half decade or even a decade so that there is a bit of varied dimensionality to the resultant woodland.

Another lesson I've learned is that the understorey is just as important as the trees. FC didn't pay for that, so I didn't bother in those days. Big mistake! Without the proper understorey species, until the forest canopy closes overhead ten to fifteen year later, the woodland floor is over-run with weed species such as dock and thistle and rosebay willowherb and nettles and, in dry places, gorse. Nasty.

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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#46 Post by boing » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:30 pm

"Conjuring Summer in"



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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#47 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:32 pm

The Comfort of the Woods
by Amos Russel Wells

I understand my comrades of the woods,
And they know me completely. Not an oak
But is my brother, strong, reserved, sincere.
Along the happy, peaceful forest ways
That wind so intimately through the trees
I hold a calm communion with my friends,
The pines and gentle birches. Day by day
Insensibly the bond is closer drawn
With beckonings of branches, waftitures
Of subtle fragrance, melodies of birds,
Flickers of sunlight on the level leaves,
A thousand sweet enchantments pure and good.
This air dissolves my fretfulness and fears;
They fall into the green depths of the dell,
The cheery brooklet carries them away,
The bushes brush them off. I enter here
With furrowed brow and heavy-burdened heart;
But little unseen hands are softly pressed
Upon the frowns, and little unseen hands
Tug at the burdens till they all are gone.
Ah, what am I that these my friends
Should minister to me so graciously?
Do they not know my follies and my sin?
Yet with a mother's blind, forgiving love
They cleanse the foulnesses they will not see.
Nor do they only wait for me to come,
Withdrawn, expectant; but amid the din
Of cities, and upon the crowded streets,
I feel the brick and mortar fade away,
Aud find the woods around me once again,
Tall, shadowy, protecting, Once again
I hear the woodland murmurs like a hymn,
And on my troubled spirit lies once more
The peaceful benediction of the trees.
Though you remain
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."

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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#48 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:40 pm

Beechwood fires are bright and clear
If the logs are kept a year,
Chestnut’s only good they say,
If for logs ’tis laid away.

Make a fire of Elder tree,
Death within your house will be;
But ash new or ash old,
Is fit for a queen with crown of gold
.

Birch and fir logs burn too fast
Blaze up bright and do not last,
it is by the Irish said
Hawthorn bakes the sweetest bread.
Elm wood burns like churchyard mould,
E’en the very flames are cold
But ash green or ash brown
Is fit for a queen with golden crown

Poplar gives a bitter smoke,
Fills your eyes and makes you choke,
Apple wood will scent your room
Pear wood smells like flowers in bloom

Oaken logs, if dry and old
keep away the winter’s cold
But ash wet or ash dry
a king shall warm his slippers by
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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#49 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:06 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
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Beechwood fires are bright and clear
If the logs are kept a year,
Chestnut’s only good they say,
If for logs ’tis laid away.
Don't know that one UP. Who wrote it? A charming poem indeed!
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You must have somewhere
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Your destination remains
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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#50 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:11 pm

boing wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:30 pm
"Conjuring Summer in"
Kipling eh! ;)))

That young lady has a beautiful voice.
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You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
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#51 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:15 pm

the trees they do grow high and the leaves they do grow green.
the day is passed and gone my love that you and i have seen.
it's on a cold winter's night that i must lie alone.
for the bonny boy is young but a-growing.
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You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#52 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:34 pm

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Don't know that one UP. Who wrote it? A charming poem indeed!
I think it's one of those folk poems which evolve over time. Bit like nursery rhymes.

The part which says that you can burn Ash straight from a living tree is true.

I remember coming home from some sweaty armpit of this planet, to a deep midwinter, to find that the two femmes of me household had given away the entire stock of well dried and stored firewood to a couple of elderly ladies who needed it.

Partly in a fit of pique, and partly because I needed to burn off some Duty Free alcohol, and mostly because I could, I went out into the woods in the snow, and chopped down an old Ash. I cut it to good lengths and split the logs into sticks with my maul.

The resultant fire was absolutely gorgeous and les femmes were forgiven.

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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#53 Post by ian16th » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:44 pm

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Oak grow to four or five hundred years, so long as the Royal Navy doesn't need it to build ships.
A piece of probably boring trivia. At the time of Hearts of Oak, a Midshipman's training included sufficient forestry to know what timbers to use to build and repair the ships of the day.
I learnt this when I lived in the Forest of Dean, where Nelson himself used to visit, and he personally selected Oak trees for felling. There was quite a lot of memorabilia at the hotel he stayed at in Monmouth.
There are also two different species of willow. Very fast growing and a tremendous resource for craftsmen
Which one makes good cricket bats?

I am aware that many of the cheaper bats on the market today are made in India from a local willow, that is inferior to the English willow. Dunno how Scots willow is rated.
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#54 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:48 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:34 pm
TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:06 pm
Don't know that one UP. Who wrote it? A charming poem indeed!
I think it's one of those folk poems which evolve over time. Bit like nursery rhymes.

The part which says that you can burn Ash straight from a living tree is true.

I remember coming home from some sweaty armpit of this planet, to a deep midwinter, to find that the two femmes of me household had given away the entire stock of well dried and stored firewood to a couple of elderly ladies who needed it.

Partly in a fit of pique, and partly because I needed to burn off some Duty Free alcohol, and mostly because I could, I went out into the woods in the snow, and chopped down an old Ash. I cut it to good lengths and split the logs into sticks with my maul.

The resultant fire was absolutely gorgeous and les femmes were forgiven.
The flames of home's hearth,
Burn brighter tis true;
And better the smile of one's love
Than cold ash misconstrue.
Though you remain
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."

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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#55 Post by Dushan » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:49 pm

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Check into a luxury hotel and spend the rest of my days there. Never having to step into a kitchen again. Just call room service for food and drink. George V or The Ritz would do fine.
I would be very happy if I never stepped foot into a luxury hotel again in my life. Lived in them for years. Give me a room in a country pub any day.
I guess the grass is always greener at the other side of the fence. Still, George V just appeals to me.
Stayed in a small boutique hotel in Rome (Hotel d'inghilterra) a few times that's almost as nice.
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#56 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:53 pm

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The flames of home's hearth,
Burn brighter tis true;
And better the smile of one's love
Than cold ash misconstrue.
Very good! :YMAPPLAUSE:

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#57 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:57 pm

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Dunno how Scots willow is rated.
Prolly about as low as cricket is rated in Scotland.

We use willow to feed goats, sheep and cattle, and to make useful things from the wood.

Never heard of Caledonian forest wood being used to make cricket bats.

The yew was a bit useful in making bows though. ;)))

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#58 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:57 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:53 pm
TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:48 pm
The flames of home's hearth,
Burn brighter tis true;
And better the smile of one's love
Than cold ash misconstrue.
Very good! :YMAPPLAUSE:
;)))
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You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
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#59 Post by ian16th » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:26 pm

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Prolly about as low as cricket is rated in Scotland.
Don't knock Scots cricket, arguably the worlds greatest ever player started his professional career at Gala Cricket Club of Galashiels.
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Re: What do want to do before you die?

#60 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:41 pm

ian16th wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:26 pm
Undried Plum wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:57 pm
Prolly about as low as cricket is rated in Scotland.
Don't knock Scots cricket, arguably the worlds greatest ever player started his professional career at Gala Cricket Club of Galashiels.

Just as with grasshoppers, it takes more than one to play cricket. ;)))

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