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Re: Wokeness or wokery

#21 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:12 pm

that.....'you should not shoot animals for meat but go to the Supermarket and buy the meat, 'where it was made and no animals were harmed in the process....'
You never know, they might be right.
I stopped buying Chicken Kiev when they put a bit of bone in it. Prior to that the chicken actually had bone in it.

I refuse to eat 'chicken breast' unless it has skin attached.

Bernard Matthews even made scampi from turkey, OK that's meat, but only a matter of time when it isn't.

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#22 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:16 pm

G CPTN, I remember at 5 going across the road with a jug to get milk from the dairy opposite.

Later, going for long walks on hot days knocking on the door of a convenient farm house and asking for a glass of milk. Always given but we never abused their generosity. Seeing milk churns on a platform at the side of the road was a regular sight.

Remember, pre Mixy, butchers had rabbits hanging outside the shop.

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#23 Post by ian16th » Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:20 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:16 pm
G CPTN, I remember at 5 going across the road with a jug to get milk from the dairy opposite.

Later, going for long walks on hot days knocking on the door of a convenient farm house and asking for a glass of milk. Always given but we never abused their generosity. Seeing milk churns on a platform at the side of the road was a regular sight.

Remember, pre Mixy, butchers had rabbits hanging outside the shop.
There was a shop in King Lynn that sold the 'take' of the weekends shoot at Sandringham!
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#24 Post by fareastdriver » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:33 pm

The clatter of lead shot on the plates would keep the conversation going.

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#25 Post by OFSO » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:42 pm

As a child, my mum bought freshly-shot rabbit, and indeed we had to watch out for our teeth with the lead shot in the stew. Nowadays the very thought would arouse the ire of many different woke groups.

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#26 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:45 pm

OFSO wrote:
Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:42 pm
As a child, my mum bought freshly-shot rabbit, and indeed we had to watch out for our teeth with the lead shot in the stew. Nowadays the very thought would arouse the ire of many different woke groups.
Yes, lead shot, very bad for wild life.

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#27 Post by fareastdriver » Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:44 pm

I have avoided eating meat for a few years. I am sticking to reprocessed grass.

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#28 Post by llondel » Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:54 pm

As regards the Peppa Pig thing, this one has been doing the rounds for a while.
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#29 Post by FD2 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:26 pm

Protect war memorials, Minister urged https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sm-UK.html


Robert Jenrick is facing demands to beef up the Government’s ‘war on woke’ by stopping town hall leaders ‘rebranding’ memorials to British war dead.

The Communities Secretary has been urged by Tory MPs and peers to issue new statutory guidance to curb the ‘malign activities’ of councils that pander to ‘woke zealots’ and ‘denigrate British history’.

In a letter to Mr Jenrick, the party’s Common Sense Group called on him not to just ‘retain’ historic monuments but also to ‘proclaim’ them.

Protests in Bristol last year led to the toppling of a statue of 17th Century slave trader Edward Colston.

But the Common Sense Group’s intervention has been sparked by a row in Newcastle over plans to add ‘information panels’ to a 113-year-old Boer War memorial with ‘colonialist’ links. A council review of the city’s statues found no links to slavery or racism, and said the Boer War memorial commemorated ‘the dead... not the war itself’, but added that some view the conflict as ‘a colonialist enterprise’.

The information panels would be partly based on advice from a ‘suitably-informed academic’.

Sir John Hayes, chairman of the Common Sense Group, said Mr Jenrick must ‘stop misguided local authorities rebranding war memorials... with utterly unnecessary... politically correct additions’.

The letter accused Newcastle of a ‘subversive desire to denigrate British history’.

The council said its plans, ‘are in line with what the Government has stated it wants councils to do’.

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#30 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:44 pm

And even stealing them.

A few years ago our local NHS Trust intended to close a hospital in the town and sell off the building for development.

It was a Memorial Hospital and only used by the NHS and not owned by them. They fought and lost. The town had not forgotten.

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#31 Post by prospector » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:54 pm

Heard on our national radio news this morning. Our football team, (soccer), known as the All Whites, are having to think of a name change, because All Whites has a racial connotation. We have had a rugby team called the All Blacks for many years, wonder if that will have to be changed because of racial connotations?

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#32 Post by FD2 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:54 pm

Thanks prospector.

How about 'Aortearoa Any Race, LGBTxyz Gender Identifying All Nice People Welcome (Rugby Union) Team ' or (Soccer) etc prospector?

It takes a special sort of fool to worry about or even suggest this sort of stuff. Do they sit at home all day scanning the newspapers and listening to the radio to see if there's some facetious nonsense they can spout? It may explain why New Zealand productivity in the workplace is so low. After writing that I need a hug and cuddle and a safe space to suck my thumb. :))

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#33 Post by FD2 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:06 pm

Woke civil servants sneered at 'uneducated voters, old people and the rise of fascism in UK' at woke conference

At least 300 civil servants and public sector staff have joined the UKGovcamp event forum to discuss issues relating to central and local government
MoS can reveal left-wing staffers openly moaned about the Government, the ‘uneducated’ British public and apparent ‘rising fascism’ across the country
Forum members included staff from no less than 16 Government departments
Civil servants are supposed to be impartial and steer away from party politics
UKGovcamp says it is not affiliated with the Government or the Civil Service


By Jake Ryan For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 07:01 AEST, 22 August 2021 | Updated: 15:20 AEST, 22 August 2021

Sneering civil servants and public sector workers at a woke conference claimed middle-aged people ‘jump on clickbait’ news stories and lack the education to ‘unpick fascist ideas’, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

At least 300 employees have joined the UKGovcamp event forum to discuss issues relating to central and local government.

Civil servants are supposed to be impartial and steer away from party politics.

But in typed conference discussion notes, uncovered by the MoS, Left-wing staffers openly moaned about the Government, the ‘uneducated’ British public and apparent ‘rising fascism’ across the country.

The forum members included staff from 16 Government departments, among them the Home Office, Cabinet Office and Foreign Office, alongside spy agency GCHQ, the BBC, Public Health England and almost 40 local councils.

The event was led by civil servants, including Sarah Baskerville of the Department for Transport who has previously sparked anger after criticising Government policy and MPs

Protect war memorials, Minister urged

Robert Jenrick is facing demands to beef up the Government’s ‘war on woke’ by stopping town hall leaders ‘rebranding’ memorials to British war dead.

The Communities Secretary has been urged by Tory MPs and peers to issue new statutory guidance to curb the ‘malign activities’ of councils that pander to ‘woke zealots’ and ‘denigrate British history’.

In a letter to Mr Jenrick, the party’s Common Sense Group called on him not to just ‘retain’ historic monuments but also to ‘proclaim’ them.

Protests in Bristol last year led to the toppling of a statue of 17th Century slave trader Edward Colston.

But the Common Sense Group’s intervention has been sparked by a row in Newcastle over plans to add ‘information panels’ to a 113-year-old Boer War memorial with ‘colonialist’ links. A council review of the city’s statues found no links to slavery or racism, and said the Boer War memorial commemorated ‘the dead... not the war itself’, but added that some view the conflict as ‘a colonialist enterprise’.

The information panels would be partly based on advice from a ‘suitably-informed academic’.

Sir John Hayes, chairman of the Common Sense Group, said Mr Jenrick must ‘stop misguided local authorities rebranding war memorials... with utterly unnecessary... politically correct additions’.

The letter accused Newcastle of a ‘subversive desire to denigrate British history’.

The council said its plans, ‘are in line with what the Government has stated it wants councils to do’.

The three-day virtual event was led by civil servants, including Sarah Baskerville of the Department for Transport, who has previously sparked anger after she posted tweets criticising Government policy and MPs.

In a forum chat about the event, seen by the MoS, she said she was trying to conceal the controversial conference notes by keeping ‘the page hidden from search engines’.

But this newspaper has obtained the notes from sessions including one called ‘Government is political. We need to be more ready to talk about that’, in which workers outlined a swathe of woke gripes and complaints.

Another discussion entitled ‘Resisting fascism – are you a check or a balance?’ saw staff complain that ‘rising fascism’ posed a threat with significant ‘challenges domestically and internationally’.

The notes went on to claim, patronisingly, that ‘many people don’t have the educational background/ tools to unpick fascist messaging and ideas’.

Employees added that ‘it’s middle-aged people who jump on clickbait [online news stories] and hold more polarised views’ while ‘older people in authority with extreme views have a platform and are able to influence many more people’.

One worker commented: ‘First time I saw [Nigel] Farage given a platform on the BBC, I had a visceral feeling that something really ugly had been normalised and amplified.’

Another moaned that ‘the rise of the Far Right and being unable to voice my disagreements at what is happening in Western societies – it scares me, and makes me question whether I can continue to be a civil servant’.

The workers drew parallels to 1930s Germany and becoming ‘involuntary Nazis’, claiming that ‘when a system mutates so much, we have to redefine our parameters’.

Ms Baskerville, whose Twitter profile features the EU flag, previously featured in a news story after she tweeted criticism of her bosses, the Government and then-MP Douglas Carswell in 2010.

She appeared to complain during January’s conference that ‘there are less and less “safe” spaces for civil servants to voice their opinions’.

Workers during the sessions even suggested setting up a secret chat room which would be kept hidden from official records.

A statement from UKGovcamp on behalf of Ms Baskerville stated: ‘UKGovcamp is not affiliated with the Government or the Civil Service.

'We have a code of conduct that all attendees are bound by that gives people the safe space (either physical or on-line) to hold frank, open and supportive discussions.’


=)) As Tommy Cooper would have said "Just like that", the Nazi comparison appears!! Did the organisers arrange a panic room for these dears? 8-|

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sm-UK.html

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#34 Post by prospector » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:53 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sport/america ... hp&pc=U531

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"The All Whites could be no more.

New Zealand Football (NZF) are contemplating dropping the All Whites moniker for the men's national team.

The potential change is part of a wider process NZF is going through to ensure they are up to the mark when it comes to cultural inclusivity.

It comes on the back of the heightened worldwide awareness around racism and racial inequality, and the name's potentially racist connotations, and RNZ understands the national body began gauging feedback on the potential change more than six months ago."

Unbelievable!!!

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#35 Post by Hydromet » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:55 pm

Have they checked that it's all white with the players?

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#36 Post by G-CPTN » Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:28 am

Can I presume that "the Rainbow Warriors" would suffice?

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#37 Post by PHXPhlyer » Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:47 am

G-CPTN:
Only half right. [-X
I'm sure "Warriors" would invoke unwanted visions of militaristic savagery. :-q
You need to come up with something "More Woke". :D
Rainbow Fluffies, perhaps? :-?

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#38 Post by FD2 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:10 am

Excellent suggestions!

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#39 Post by FD2 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:26 am

Cambridge museum to explain 'whiteness' of its sculptures under anti-racism campaign

'You might understand this coming from a student, but the idea that this has been approved by the Faculty is as terrifying as it is comical'
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Cambridge University's archaeology museum is to add signs to explain the “whiteness” of sculpture plaster casts, as part of the Classics Faculty’s new anti-racist strategy.

Plaster casts of Roman and Greek sculptures that are on display at Cambridge University’s Museum of Classical Archeology, as well as around lecture rooms, give a “misleading impression” of the whiteness and “absence of diversity” of the ancient world.

The Classics Faculty has said it will “turn the problem into an opportunity” by drawing attention to the diversity of those figured in the casts, to the ways in which colour has been lost and can be restored, and to the “role of classical sculpture in the history of racism”.

The new information panels about the “whiteness” of plaster cast sculptures are due to go on display later this year, according to the faculty.
'Unhinged'

However, the plans have prompted a furious backlash among Cambridge dons who said the move is “unhinged” and “extraordinary”.

One academic told The Telegraph: “You might just about understand this coming from a student but the idea that this has been approved by the Faculty is as terrifying as it is comical.

“It is so easy to laugh at this but in laughing it is easy to overlook how extraordinary it is that one of the finest humanities departments in the western world is putting this stuff out with an official institutional stamp.”

Another academic pointed out that since the museum’s 600 plaster casts of Roman and Greek statues are largely depictions of Romans and Greeks, the opportunities to highlight their diversity would be limited.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... sculpture/

Academics in the Classics faculty are understood to be aghast at the proposals which were published last month as part of an “action plan” to combat accusations of racism.

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#40 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:17 am

Rainbow Fluffies, perhaps?
Doesn't use of the word Rainbow suggest that they're all ..... well, you know, not allowed to say it.

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