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Re: Electric Cars II - Not Silly!

#201 Post by VP959 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:14 am

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If nearly 300 cars a day are going up in flames the UK might as well cancel alternative forms of heating for turbines to drive generators of electrical power. Just push a Tesla or two into the furnace every few minutes.
It's a bit like firewood, some types burn much better than others. If you want heat, then you'd be better off burning petrol and diesel cars, as they have maybe double the calorific value when they catch fire, plus they catch fire very much more readily.

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#202 Post by OFSO » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:21 am

You've obviously never tried to ignite diesel fuel!

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#203 Post by ribrash » Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:29 pm

The 300 cars/100 deaths a day was from 2018 data says Mr Google.Is it still as high ?

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#204 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:18 pm

Part of an EV6 driver's story about his drive from Scotland to the Artic Circle in Norway. He's not a journalist just a happy EV6 driver:
Just back from a trip from Scotland to the Artic circle in Norway. 3850 miles 99 hours of the car switched on and 3.9 miles per kWh. Some notes to show how well it worked. It was basically brilliant as a grand tourer.

I used the Newcastle to Amsterdam ferry so drove through Holland 100kph limit on motorways there, Germany’s autobahn so had a shot above 100mph, not for long as the battery range drops like a stone and then through Denmark to another ferry to Norway.

I basically drove at 130kph through Germany and Denmark. The smart cruise control worked really well if you set it to the limit, if you stay below it you have to manually adjust every time the limit changes and in Germany it’s up and down like a yo-yo. The car was great on the autobahns, fast to accelerate even past 100, it left most petrol cars standing, probably due to no kick down needed, I was on eco all the time, but it accelerates the same in every mode when you put your foot down. The mode only changes how responsive the pedal is lower down.

The temperature was low 20s going out and driving at 130, every time we stopped to charge it went right up to 230kw plus straight away, that’s starting at 30 to 40%. Used Ionity almost all the time. We had to wait a few times but no queue. The ev6 charging was great as we typically were the first to leave even when starting 5 minutes later than anyone else. Only enough time for the toilet and a takeaway coffee.
3.9miles per kwh and a battery pack of 77.4kwh gives an actual range to zero of 302 miles. Not bad! I've no desire to drive anywhere near 300 miles in one go without a toilet break. My EV6 now arrives at the dealer on 18 July - can't wait to get my hands on it!
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#205 Post by Dushan » Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:43 am

Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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#206 Post by PHXPhlyer » Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:12 am

Dushan wrote:
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A new job description: Tesla battery pack surgeon.

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Re: Electric Cars II - Not Silly!

#207 Post by OFSO » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:21 am

I was stunned to learn that Ford is abandoning the manufacture of the Fiesta, Focus, and Mondeo. Looks as if, after years of buying Ford, I will have to turn elsewhere in future. The wife's Fiesta is still purring along after 18 years. The fuel tank hadn't shrunk in size and it happily starts when left unused for months while we are in England. It's on it's third battery.

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#208 Post by OFSO » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:08 am

Next time someone tells you electric cars are non-polluting..... So many have been sold in China that they are building more coal-powered power stations to generate the necessary electricity. They buy the low-sulphur coal from Australia, which is running out of electricity, so is even considering building nuclear generation facilities, way in the future. Germany also has a tentative increase in coal burning power stations on the books, since Merkel shut down their nuclear power generation because of the risk of tsunamis. The Greens are resisting building coal powered generation facilities, but if they want clean electric cars they have no choice but to pollute the atmosphere burning coal. . Mad world!

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#209 Post by VP959 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:06 pm

Goodwood Festival of Speed timed shootout yesterday. EVs are literally pissing all over the fastest petrol cars, by a massive margin. Fun bit is at around 38 minutes in, when the McMurty Automotive Speirling completely obliterates some of the fastest cars in the world. ~1.4 seconds to 60mph. Lots of fun for sure, but it seems pretty clear that the dinosaurs with the suck,squeeze, bang, blow contraptions are on the road to extinction:


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Re: Electric Cars II - Not Silly!

#210 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:18 pm

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it seems pretty clear that the dinosaurs with the suck,squeeze, bang, blow contraptions are on the road to extinction:

Buggah!

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Re: Electric Cars II - Not Silly!

#212 Post by VP959 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:42 pm

For anyone that just wants to see the 39.08 seconds of the McMurtry Speirling doing that insane run:


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Re: Electric Cars II - Not Silly!

#213 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:33 pm

Oh! Puhleeze!

A household member, who must never be mentioned, does that stuff twice a week on the shopping run.

The sideways squeeze of the required smile under such sideyways g is not easily maintained, I can tell ye.

I'm not sure that the autoinfantilisiner of our forum will not allow this blurt, but it's something like faaak! when in the passenger seat.

The for'ra'd g is something with which our bananaflattening banana brethren of the ff fraternity are familiar with, but the sideways g on the way to and from Morrison Bros is something else.

No wonder they don't bother to try to hire backseaters in faststuff nowadays!

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#214 Post by ricardian » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:14 pm

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#215 Post by Wodrick » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:45 pm

Seem to have a Noggie registered Tesla visiting down the hill.

Nearest Tesla charger is about 10km away in Nerja it's a destination charger whatever that is but only 20Kw which seems to me as useful as tits on a bull.
The nearest Supercharger (there are two) are around Fuengerola they are 120 and 150kw. That is about an hours drive from here.

I assume his best bet is an overnight charge from the house and then plan his coffee stops for the return journey.
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#216 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:52 pm

Pretty cheap of Toyota.

Of the approximately 2,700 vehicles affected by the recall, 2,200 went to Europe, 260 to the US, 10 to Canada and 110 stayed in Japan. Subaru is recalling approximately 2,600 Solterras. Toyota said all owners should park affected vehicles until the issue is remedied. "Until remedy is available, any authorized Toyota dealer will pick up the vehicle and provide a loaner free of charge," Toyota said. =))

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Re: Electric Cars II - Not Silly!

#217 Post by OFSO » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:19 pm

Wasn't it something like the wheels falling off? Are Toyota owners so inept* they can't check the bolts themselves?

*As in Prius owners never driving over 30mph.

Oh I see. A hub bolt, whatever that is. Give wheel a good pull. If it appears tight, it is. If it wobbles or comes off in your hand, it isn't.

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#218 Post by CharlieOneSix » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:01 pm

Of course wheels falling off would never happen to an ICE car would it? No, the steering wheels just come off in your hands on some Ford ICE cars in the US.......

Ford Recalling 1.4 Million Cars Due to Steering Wheels Falling Off
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#219 Post by OFSO » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:54 pm

My point was that in ANY car, no matter what makes it go, are drivers so dumb they (a) don't notice it happening and (b) can't at least try to remedy the problem?

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Re: Electric Cars II - Not Silly!

#220 Post by VP959 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:12 pm

OFSO wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:54 pm
My point was that in ANY car, no matter what makes it go, are drivers so dumb they (a) don't notice it happening and (b) can't at least try to remedy the problem?
There's a story doing the rounds that the problem relates to tolerances between the bolts and the wheels, not the torque settings of the bolts. Toyota are apparently replacing all the bolts on recalled cars. There's also been suggestions that the defective bolts may damage the wheels and that Toyota want to check for signs of damage during the recall.

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