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Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:17 am
by EA01
This past week the East coast of Australia has been threatened with power blackouts due to insufficient energy supply....coal and gas, sold off to foreirgn companies that pay no tax in australia, gas going to China at bargain basement prices under the Howard governemnt and also Howards tying the price of petrol to the Singapore standard (Lets not start also with Howards right hand man brokering the 100 year lease deal with a Chinese company for the port of Darwin)

Now we have this!....$25 million to fly an aboringinal flag from the top of the Sydney Harbour Bridge!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-19/ ... /101165564

I apologise to people for being Australian now....I'm embarrased at how stupid we are!

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:19 am
by EA01
Apparently the NSW LNP Party think $25million is a small price to pay....they'll probably tell us they are the superior economic managers as well....FFS

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:32 am
by Fox3WheresMyBanana
You would be hard-pushed to find a country that has less corrupt/stupid government.
They fill jobs with wasters they owe favours to, and skim stuff off the top of every contract.
The problems only show up when the wasters actually have to perform in the job, and the economics shift so fast there's no top to skim off.
Australia just happens to have hit that point first with energy.
You will, however, see a lot more countries hitting that point soon. Canada with healthcare, for example.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:25 pm
by Undried Plum
Scotland might join your game of Ketchup if oor ain Wee NippySweettie has her way and kicks off her dancing shose.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:31 pm
by OFSO
What is an aboriginal flag? Have the aboriginals always had one, is it a design accepted by all aboriginals, or something the White Man made up? Phoney, all phoney, and patronising to boot.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:12 pm
by VP959
OFSO wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:31 pm
What is an aboriginal flag? Have the aboriginals always had one, is it a design accepted by all aboriginals, or something the White Man made up? Phoney, all phoney, and patronising to boot.
That's exactly what went through my mind! Did the aboriginal peoples of Australia even have the concept of nationality, and symbols of it such as flags, before white settlers arrived? I suspect they didn't, given that they were essentially a stone age people, living primarily a hunter gatherer lifestyle, and a culture that although rich, doesn't seem to have reached the stage where people settle, farm and so might identify with particular territorial areas.

At a more basic level, did the aboriginal people of Australia even have the technology to make cloth?

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:29 pm
by Rwy in Sight
How does the big Tesla battery works to stabilize the network in South Australia.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:01 pm
by Undried Plum
OFSO wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:31 pm
What is an aboriginal flag? Have the aboriginals always had one, is it a design accepted by all aboriginals, or something the White Man made up? Phoney, all phoney, and patronising to boot.

I just know that I'm gonna get kicked for with this one, but what the hay:


Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:17 pm
by OFSO
My mate in Port Macquarie says: $50 to erect the flagpole and the rest for consultants. Hmm... I know another country liked that!

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:57 pm
by John Hill
VP959 wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:12 pm
OFSO wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:31 pm
What is an aboriginal flag? Have the aboriginals always had one, is it a design accepted by all aboriginals, or something the White Man made up? Phoney, all phoney, and patronising to boot.
That's exactly what went through my mind! Did the aboriginal peoples of Australia even have the concept of nationality, and symbols of it such as flags, before white settlers arrived? I suspect they didn't, given that they were essentially a stone age people, living primarily a hunter gatherer lifestyle, and a culture that although rich, doesn't seem to have reached the stage where people settle, farm and so might identify with particular territorial areas.

At a more basic level, did the aboriginal people of Australia even have the technology to make cloth?
Don't slag the Aboriginals, one can hardly say they deserved what happened to them.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:19 pm
by VP959
John Hill wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:57 pm
VP959 wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:12 pm
OFSO wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:31 pm
What is an aboriginal flag? Have the aboriginals always had one, is it a design accepted by all aboriginals, or something the White Man made up? Phoney, all phoney, and patronising to boot.
That's exactly what went through my mind! Did the aboriginal peoples of Australia even have the concept of nationality, and symbols of it such as flags, before white settlers arrived? I suspect they didn't, given that they were essentially a stone age people, living primarily a hunter gatherer lifestyle, and a culture that although rich, doesn't seem to have reached the stage where people settle, farm and so might identify with particular territorial areas.

At a more basic level, did the aboriginal people of Australia even have the technology to make cloth?
Don't slag the Aboriginals, one can hardly say they deserved what happened to them.

I'm not in any way, shape or form!

If it's politically incorrect to ask honest questions, that were in no way intended to be derogatory to anyone, then perhaps I need to be cancelled?

The whole cancel culture thing has gone far enough, if it now extends to banning simple, honest, questions about anthropology, even here, then the world truly is going completely mad.

Perhaps you might have a stab at answering my questions, or is that not allowed under the new world order?

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:28 pm
by G-CPTN
Has anyone assessed the developmental state reached by primitive societies before the interference of invading communities?

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:19 pm
by John Hill
VP959 wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:19 pm
Perhaps you might have a stab at answering my questions, or is that not allowed under the new world order?
I am hardly the source you should consult if you want to learn about Aboriginal people of Australia. However the document to be found at https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu ... 885/114913 may be a good place for you to start.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:26 pm
by John Hill
G-CPTN wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:28 pm
Has anyone assessed the developmental state reached by primitive societies before the interference of invading communities?

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:14 pm
by bob2s
How the hell do they come up with 25 million to hoist a flag to a pole that is already there, the Aboriginal flag has flown alongside the Australian flag previously. Perhaps it is
$24,999,900 for planning and kickbacks and $100 to hoist said flag.
Would be eye-opening for the general public to see a spreadsheet of all allocated costs.
Sometimes I think mob rule would be less costly than having so-called politicians accept senior bureaucrats' words for the cost!

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:56 am
by Hydromet
bob2s wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:14 pm
How the hell do they come up with 25 million to hoist a flag to a pole that is already there, the Aboriginal flag has flown alongside the Australian flag previously. Perhaps it is
$24,999,900 for planning and kickbacks and $100 to hoist said flag.
Would be eye-opening for the general public to see a spreadsheet of all allocated costs.
Sometimes I think mob rule would be less costly than having so-called politicians accept senior bureaucrats' words for the cost!
Meanwhile, people in the northern rivers region whose houses were flooded in 2021 are still waiting for their share of a $2M subsidy to raise the houses.

Gotta get the priorities right.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:19 am
by EA01
As I said....stupid country....I'm Australian, too long I've listened to nothing but 'the lucky country', it is for the Gina Reinhardts etc., but where is this 'Commonwealth', Howard facilitated the Gas for nothing to China, as he also pegged the price of petrol to the Singapore standard, the Country exports Gas it needs to foreign companies that pay no tax here, whiile we run short....the stupidity is incredible!!

Why we are not Nuclear powered is beyond me, why we pay so much in such a resource rich country beggars belief...

Why do we look to get nuclear powered but not nuclear armed submarines......20 years afrom now!!!

We should have an array of of ICBM slos across the top end, and roving nuclear subs in place now.

And don't even start me on the state of state care of children is less than third world, and untter abomination and a national disgrace..

For those that can access it...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-20/ ... /101094220

Disgraceful

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:16 pm
by John Hill
EA01 wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:19 am
Why do we look to get nuclear powered but not nuclear armed submarines......20 years afrom now!!!
Nuclear armed subs would violate your membership of the NPT.

We should have an array of of ICBM slos across the top end, and roving nuclear subs in place now.
No need for that, your Big Daddy has got you covered.

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:41 pm
by Undried Plum

Re: Another reason we are a stupid country!

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:26 pm
by bob2s
^^^^ Never a truer word said in jest. :((