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#1 Post by TheGreenAnger » Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:52 pm

From my ex-wife to me today...
And why are those little sheds at the end of airport runways always painted in red and white blocks?
Any ideas?
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#2 Post by 4mastacker » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:32 pm

So Drivers (Airframes) can see them?
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#3 Post by Wodrick » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:39 pm

Usually containing ILS Transmitters, think it's just a convention

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#4 Post by Opsboi » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:05 pm

TheGreenAnger wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:52 pm
From my ex-wife to me today...
And why are those little sheds at the end of airport runways always painted in red and white blocks?
Any ideas?
Camouflage paint might cause carnage

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#5 Post by Boac » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:55 pm

Indeed - how am I supposed to fly an ILS if I cannot see the transmitter?

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#6 Post by G~Man » Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:12 pm

Because "pink & baby blue" would just send the wrong message.....
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#7 Post by TheGreenAnger » Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:19 pm

G~Man wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:12 pm
Because "pink & baby blue" would just send the wrong message.....
=))
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#8 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:21 pm

4mastacker is correct.

In North America, they are Orange and White, but the pattern/sizing is the same as the Red/White.

Note that if the object is less than 3.2m/10.5ft high, it will be a solid colour (i.e. Red, Orange, or sometimes White), not checkerboard.

Whilst most aircraft will not 'encounter' these objects, some common scenarios where the marking is useful include:
helicopters hover-taxiing
helicopters and V/STOL aircraft landing other than on runways
large aircraft manoeuvring where wingtips extend beyond the taxiway/runway edges
decision making in emergency situations, e.g. deciding whether to use emergency gear-retract after a runway excursion

..and, of course, airfield beat-ups (not that I'd know anything about that..oh, no. I deny everything. Those photos are fake. I have an alibi.) :D

Perfect example here - pilot just higher than the marked pole


Gospel According To St FAA, here.
See page 8
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... 460_1M.pdf

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#9 Post by tango15 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:33 pm

In some parts of the world, they do it with tall chimbleys as well.

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#10 Post by G~Man » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:50 pm

Clearly this one did not see the marked pole..... Not Guilty B-) B-)

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#11 Post by 4mastacker » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:31 pm

I bet there's room for a Buccaneer to fly under that!! ;)))
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#12 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:09 pm

G~Man wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:50 pm
Clearly this one did not see the marked pole..... Not Guilty B-) B-)

.Low Pass.jpg
Photoshopped, someone airbrushed the wheels

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#13 Post by Ex-Ascot » Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:21 pm

A friend of my parents was very concerned about a fuel farm being built at the south side of MAN near to his house. He thought that all the aircraft going there to refuel would be very noisy. He was a lawyer!

Mrs Ex- Ascot has just commented that here at MUB you have to go to the fuel pumps to refuel. =))
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#14 Post by G~Man » Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:52 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:09 pm
G~Man wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:50 pm
Clearly this one did not see the marked pole..... Not Guilty B-) B-)
.Low Pass.jpg
Photoshopped, someone airbrushed the wheels
Probably----I have no clue--it was on a face book page for ex kipper fleet types.....
B-) Life may not be the party you hoped for, but while you're here, you may as well dance. B-)

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#15 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:03 pm

G~Man wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:52 pm
Pontius Navigator wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:09 pm
G~Man wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:50 pm
Clearly this one did not see the marked pole..... Not Guilty B-) B-)
.Low Pass.jpg
Photoshopped, someone airbrushed the wheels
Probably----I have no clue--it was on a face book page for ex kipper fleet types.....
If it was...give them credit. :-bd
It looks good. :YMAPPLAUSE:

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#16 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:07 pm

I wouldn't put it past them.
I remember a rescue way out in the Atlantic where a Nimrod dropped a dinghy to a shipwrecked sailor whilst it was still blowing a hoolie.
He made it into the dinghy and was picked up later.
"You'd have to drop it from 10 feet for it to land anywhere near him" said a QWI
"Yeah, it was about that" said the Nimrod Captain.

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#17 Post by Woody » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:50 pm

When all else fails, read the instructions.

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#18 Post by G~Man » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:29 pm

Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:07 pm
I wouldn't put it past them.
I remember a rescue way out in the Atlantic where a Nimrod dropped a dinghy to a shipwrecked sailor whilst it was still blowing a hoolie.
He made it into the dinghy and was picked up later.
"You'd have to drop it from 10 feet for it to land anywhere near him" said a QWI
"Yeah, it was about that" said the Nimrod Captain.
Our lowest "authorized" altitude in peace time was 200', I spent many many hours, mid-Atlantic at 200. War time we were "allowed" to patrol at 100'.. I have flown lower.... B-) B-)
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#19 Post by probes » Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:09 am

First, have we got an Agony Aunt?

Second, I've been watching "My Family" and I'm only on season 3, but yesterday I noticed I laugh like Zoe Wanamaker. Should I be worried?

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#20 Post by G-CPTN » Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:16 am

probes wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:09 am
First, have we got an Agony Aunt?
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