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#101 Post by PHXPhlyer » Fri May 24, 2024 12:53 am

I noticed over the years that there was much more use of wheelchairs for boarding than deplaning.
The main reason that wheelchair users are preboarded and can get prime bin space ahead of everyone else.
While I don't have as much experience with LCCs such as Frontier, Spirit, and Southwest, I imagine the wheelchair usage for boarding might be even greater as not only boarding first but more importantly having the opportunity to snag prime seats at the front of the plane to make good an early exit.

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#102 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri May 24, 2024 1:18 am

They normally make the wheelchair people deplane last, for perfectly sensible reasons.
This could be people exploiting the system, but as I said; if the onward connection is tight, and a short distance, then even genuine mobility-problem people may be OK without the wheelchair when deplaning.
The airlines system is a black/white thing and inflexible. So, as I say, I suspect it's mostly their own system that's to blame.
I know my own mum has tried to tell them which airports she needs assistance at, and sometimes they've even tried to pass this on, but in practice the people at the other end never get the message.
Then, of course, there are many people who have good days and bad days with their medical problems, but the service has to be pre-booked.
I've seen gate staff insisting on people waiting for assistance even when the connection is only a couple of gates away, and less distance than the ramp they may have just walked up - nonsense.

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#103 Post by PHXPhlyer » Fri May 24, 2024 2:18 am

It doesn't help any that wheelchair attendants are almost always sub-contractors and not direct employees of the airline.
Same with fuelers, rampers, and even gate agents, especially at out stations.
The fact that the airline doesn't have direct control over those workers can be a major issue.

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#104 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue May 28, 2024 1:59 pm

Naked on a plane: Man arrested after alleged nude aisle run forced plane to turn back
The Virgin Australia flight from Perth to Melbourne turned back around an hour-and-a-half after take off, according to flight tracking website FlightAware.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nake ... rcna154237

It’s safe to say it wasn’t the mid-flight entertainment they were expecting.

Instead passengers aboard a Virgin Australia flight from Perth to Melbourne were forced to watch a naked man running through the aisle and knocking a crew member to the floor.

Flight VA696 then turned back to Perth due to a “disruptive passenger on board,” a Virgin Australia spokesperson said in a statement after the incident on Monday. They added that the man was then handed over to Australian Federal Police.

The plane turned back around an hour-and-a-half into it's three-and-a-half hour journey, according to flight-tracking site, FlightAware.

Australian Federal Police said in a statement that “officers arrested a man after he allegedly ran naked through the aircraft mid-flight and knocked a crew member to the floor.”

They added that he “was arrested and taken to hospital for assessments.”

The charges the man will face are yet to be finalized, police said, adding that he will likely appear in court next month.

"We sincerely apologize to guests impacted," the Virgin Australia spokesperson said.

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#105 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 28, 2024 2:53 pm

It was the crew member who was "impacted".
The guests were affected.

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#106 Post by G-CPTN » Wed May 29, 2024 3:51 am

As they had 'restrained' the streaker, why did they return to departure airport?

Does Australia only have 'facilities' at certain bases and not at 'outposts'?

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#107 Post by Ex-Ascot » Wed May 29, 2024 5:52 am

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Wed May 29, 2024 3:51 am
As they had 'restrained' the streaker, why did they return to departure airport?

Does Australia only have 'facilities' at certain bases and not at 'outposts'?
They were almost half way there. There must be police at destination.

Why 'guests' not passengers. Were they not paying?
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#108 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed May 29, 2024 10:00 pm

NFL kicker Brandon McManus accused of sexually assaulting 2 flight attendants during team charter
The women filed a suit that alleges the incidents happened on a flight to London.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nf ... rcna154535

Two women have filed a lawsuit against NFL kicker Brandon McManus and the Jacksonville Jaguars that accuses the athlete of sexually assaulting them during a team flight to London last year.

The women, who worked as flight attendants for Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, allege that McManus rubbed himself on them and attempted to kiss one of them while they worked a team-chartered flight out of Florida to England on Sept. 28.

McManus was a kicker for the Jaguars at the time, though he is now with the Washington Commanders.

The civil suit filed in Duval County, Florida, seeks more than $1 million in damages. An attorney for McManus called the allegations “demonstrably false” and said the athlete would fight to clear his name “by showing what these claims truly are — an extortion attempt.”

The Jacksonville Jaguars have said they are aware of the claims and are investigating. “It bears emphasizing that we insist on an organization built by people who represent our community and game with the highest character and class,” the team said in a statement to NBC News affiliate WTLV of Jacksonville.

Party on a flight, unwanted grabbing
The flight to London turned into a party for McManus and a number of his teammates, according to the complaint. The athlete recruited three flight attendants (who are no longer employed by Atlas Air) to join the party, “passing out $100 bills to encourage them to drink and dance inappropriately for him,” the suit states.

The plaintiffs — identified solely as Jane Doe I and Jane Doe II — said they did not engage in the party.

McManus allegedly “repeatedly targeted Jane Doe I,” seemingly because she did not want to partake, the filing said.

He targeted her when she was belted in her jump seat after the pilot indicated that turbulence required seatbelts for all on board, according to the suit. She felt “uncomfortable” with McManus’ presence, and he “leaned in to kiss Jane Doe I,” the complaint said.

She put her hand up and told him to go away, and he conceded, the complaint said. He allegedly continued to seek her out and on two occasions, grabbed her and rubbed against her so that she could feel his erection, according to the suit.

She said in the suit that the alleged incident happened while she was serving the flight’s meal to other passengers.

She froze and made eye contact with “another Jaguars player, who looked ashamed of his teammate’s behavior,” the complaint said.

The second alleged incident happened later when he came up behind her, grabbed her “tightly by the waist and rubbed his clothed but erected penis on her multiple times,” the suit states.

“Both incidents were unprovoked, unwanted and reprehensible,” the filing said.

The suit accuses McManus of behaving the same way with a second woman as she served the flight’s second meal.

The woman could not move away because she was in the galley aisle and carrying a full service tray, the suit stated.

The woman turned around and confronted McManus but “he simply smirked and walked away,” the complaint said, leaving her “humiliated and embarrassed.”

“The sexual misconduct occurred in front of Plaintiffs’ professional peers and in front of high-profile clients. Plaintiffs felt severely anxious, ashamed, and terrified that their careers were at risk,” the complaint said.

McManus’ alleged behavior has left the women with “severe mental anguish and career disruption,” including anxiety and suspicion when engaging with male clients during work, the filing said. Both women were removed from the “core crew” that staffs Jaguars flights — “something both Plaintiffs worked hard to achieve,” according to the suit.

It was their first and last flight with the Jacksonville Jaguars, the filing said.

The suit alleges assault and sexual assault by McManus, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligence and gross negligence by the Jaguars in failing to “enforce a zero-tolerance policy related to inappropriate behavior” and failing to create a safe environment for staff serving them.

The women seek a jury trial.

Attorney calls allegations 'a campaign to defame'
An attorney for McManus, Brett R. Gallaway, denied the women’s claims.

“To be clear, these are absolutely fictitious and demonstrably false allegations made as part of a campaign to defame and disparage a talented and well-respected NFL player,” he said in a statement. “We intend to aggressively defend Brandon’s rights and integrity and clear his name.”

The Washington Commanders said in a statement Monday it was made aware of the suit filed May 24.

“We take allegations of this nature very seriously and are looking into the matter. We have been in communication with the League Office and Brandon’s representation, and will reserve further comment at this time,” the team said.

Tony Buzbee, an attorney representing the two women, said on Instagram that prior to filing the suit the women and their lawyers tried to resolve the case “without the need for litigation” but, “our efforts at resolution were met with arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.”

“The allegations made in this lawsuit are very serious. We made sure to fully vet them and speak to witnesses before even taking the cases,” he said. “We will pursue this case with the same tenacity we are known for ... These women were simply trying to do their jobs!”

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#109 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:06 pm

I guess it depends on who's perspective it is from.

Viral Video Exposes Cheating Husband’s Mile High Club Affair On United Airlines Flight


https://viewfromthewing.com/viral-video ... es-flight/

A woman on Sunday’s United Airlines flight 2140 from Houston to New York LaGuardia overheard a man and woman across the aisle getting to know each other: He’s from Fort Worth. He has his own company, loves to surf, and has an 8 year old daughter. She danced at the start of the weekend’s Astro’s game. He… hadn’t even taken off his wedding ring.

The pair had only just met at an airport bar, and he apparently convinced the woman – her name is Katy – to swap seats so they could get to know each other during the flight.

The woman watching them took to social media, and decided it was time to identify the man she said was a cheater, because “he’s probably going to be staying with Katy tonight” in New York.

https://v16m-default.tiktokcdn-us.com/a ... =e00088000

Things got spicier, because it seems the new couple were “making out” at their seats and “ended up in the bathroom.” She seems to imply that they joined the mile high club.

https://v16m-default.tiktokcdn-us.com/8 ... =e00088000

Over 23 million people saw the first video and the internet decided to track the man down. One commenter quickly realized that the woman was her sister-in-law. Another recognized the man as his “second cousin by marriage.”

He’s Scott. Online sleuths found his instagram, Katy’s instagram, and… Scott’s wife’s Facebook. She knows now.

I’ve seen quick coupling before – ironically, even, on a United Airlines Houston flight. In that case, it happened even faster! They met on board, were together by the end of the flight… and it was only Austin to Houston.


The thing to know is that everything in public is really in public now. There’s no anonymity anymore if you make yourself stand out. The only true security is remaining in obscurity. The Mile High Club sort of guarantees the end to your obscurity, for about 15 minutes.

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#110 Post by PHXPhlyer » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:42 pm

Man Arrested For Exposing Himself And Urinating in Aisle of American Airlines Flight From Chicago O’Hare

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2024 ... ago-ohare/

A25-year-old man has been arrested after he allegedly exposed himself and then urinated in the aisle of an American Airlines flight from Chicago O’Hare on Wednesday morning.

The flight from Chicago to Manchester, New Hampshire, which was operated by American Eagle on behalf of American Airlines ended up diverting to Buffalo Airport where the suspect was taken into custody.

Neil McCarthy of Portland has been charged with indecent exposure following his arrest on Wednesday, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of New York. After appearing in court, McCarthy was released on his own recognizance pending a trial.

According to a criminal affidavit filed in federal court, McCarthy was traveling from Portland to Manchester with a layover in Chicago. Before boarding both flights, McCarthy says he had some ‘Jack and Cokes’ and even more during the flight to Manchester.

At some point during the flight, McCarthy says he got up to use the restroom and when he was walking back to his seat he was ‘flicking the bean’ because he has a medical urination problem.

A flight attendant on the flight told local law enforcement that McCarthy had exposed himself and urinated in the aisle of the small Embraer regional jet.

According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), there have so far been 893 reports of unruly airline passenger behavior made to federal authorities since the start of the year.

With over half of the year already gone, unruly passenger numbers are set to drop in 2024 compared to 2023 when more than 2,000 reports were received.

In addition to criminal prosecution, like many unruly passengers, McCarthy also faces the threat of the FAA pursuing civil financial penalties. In 2023, the FAA levied more than $7.5 million in fines against unruly passengers.

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#111 Post by PHXPhlyer » Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:31 pm

Irate United Airlines passenger in ‘Scarface’ shirt bites chunk out of flight attendant’s uniform on Newark-bound plane

https://nypost.com/2024/07/11/lifestyle ... ted-plane/

An unruly United Airlines passenger took a bite out of a flight attendant’s shirt before the Newark-bound plane was forced to make an emergency landing over the in-flight altercation.

The irate passenger — wearing an Al Pacino-inspired “Scarface” shirt — was held by several flight attendants and passengers when she threw several punches and spat on others during United Airlines Flight 762 from Miami to Newark on Tuesday.

During the scuffle, the woman thrashed her head around before chowing down on the male flight attendant’s shirt and yanking pieces of cloth off, cellphone video obtained by TMZ showed.

After the flight crew and passengers detained the woman, she was ushered down the aisle to another seat where she launched an explicative-filled rant.

“People are recording me, don’t come to this airline,” she says. “Don’t come on f–king United Airline, these people have an attitude problem, they don’t do their f–king jobs.”

The furious passenger turned her attention to someone off-camera and laid into them as she continued her unhinged rant.

“Old lady, who are you talking to old lady, go back to f–king Russia,” the passenger shouted. “Suck my d–k bitch. I’ll f–king kill you b—h.”

The flight, which took off from Miami International Airport at 5:38 p.m., had diverted course about an hour into the flight and landed at Orlando International Airport at 7:13 p.m. according to FlightAware.

After the plane landed, police escorted the passenger off as she continued to shout profanities at the top of her lungs while the remaining passengers gave law enforcement officers a round of applause.

The flight was further delayed when it was announced that the flight crew had to be changed because of the ordeal.

The plane didn’t get back in the air until 9:19 p.m. — three and a half hours later — and landed in Newark just after midnight Wednesday morning.

The reason for the midflight meltdown wasn’t revealed, but some passengers claimed it stemmed from a bathroom issue.

“She apparently verbally and then physically attacked a family in the back of the plane after not being able to go to the bathroom at one moment,” a passenger told the Daily Mail.

“The kids were screaming — not as loud as her though… I remember when I used to act like this aged 2 or 3 when I didn’t get ice cream,” the man added.

The Post has reached out to United for comment.

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#112 Post by PHXPhlyer » Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:04 am

Former Anchorage pastor banned from Alaska Airlines after allegedly hitting wife on flight

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2024/ ... fe-flight/

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU/Gray News) - A former Anchorage pastor is facing a federal charge of assault after allegedly hitting his wife in the head during a flight.

According to a criminal complaint, Roger Allan Holmberg Sr. was being disruptive when he hit his wife during a July 2 flight between Seattle and Anchorage.

Authorities said Holmberg was upset that his wife got upgraded to first class based on her higher mileage status, while he was not.

Patti Holmberg said her husband “wanted me to read something on his cell phone, so I just glanced over his phone, and I gave it right back to him, and then he sat down,” she explained. “And then a few moments later, he got back up and hit me on the head.”

The pastor and his wife were traveling to Anchorage to discuss business related to potential housing opportunities for religious missions, according to Patti Holmberg.

A former pastor at Grace Baptist Temple in Anchorage was arrested and charged with assault after allegedly hitting his wife on an Alaska Airlines flight headed to Anchorage.(Patti Holmberg)
She says her husband seemed to be angry from the very start of the day, allegedly taking his verbal frustrations out on wheelchair attendants at the airports through which they traveled that day.

Patti Holmberg claims her husband has exhibited a history of abuse from which she has suffered recent injuries.

“I can’t continue on this way,” said Patti Holmberg.

Alaska Airlines confirmed Wednesday that Roger Allan Holmberg Sr. has now been banned from all flights with the airline.

Alaska’s News Source made repeated attempts to reach Holmberg Sr. on Wednesday for comment and a response to the allegations.

Reached Wednesday, the public defender’s office said Holmberg Sr. has made the decision to retain private counsel. However, an attorney is not yet listed in the online court record for the case.

Roger Holmberg Sr. previously served as a pastor at Grace Baptist Temple in Anchorage, according to his wife.

Patti Holmberg wants to encourage other women who may be suffering from domestic abuse to speak up and seek help.

“I wish more women could, you know, stand up for themselves and just say that person is not worth my time. You know, I love him, but I love him enough to let him go,” Patti Holmberg said.

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#113 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:58 am

Long story but I once got upgraded but not my wife. She didn't hit me. The guy next to her who didn't know that I was in Business offered to swap seats so that I could sit next to my wife. She told the stewardess that if I didn't move I was dead. This was relayed to me. I didn't mind. The nice guy got a pleasant surprise and sent back fizz for us.
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#114 Post by boing » Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:32 pm

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#115 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:39 pm

Actually, the passenger in seat C is a German Shepard.

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#116 Post by boing » Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:22 pm

You are quite right and this was explained to me in very forceful terms by my German house guest.
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