Passenger ordered to pay more than $5,000 in fuel costs after flight diverted due to bad behavior
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/travel/a ... index.html
A problematic airline passenger has been hit with an unusual form of punishment – he has to pay back the airline for the cost of fuel.
According to the Australian Federal Police, a then-32-year-old man from Western Australia was disruptive on a flight headed from Perth to Sydney. As a result, the plane had to turn around and go back to Perth, which meant that the pilot was forced to dump some fuel to land.
Now, the passenger has been ordered to pay $8,630 AUD ($5,806 USD) back to the airline to cover the cost of the wasted fuel. The Perth Magistrate Court also fined him $6,055, meaning that his mid-air misbehavior has a total price tag of $11,861 – likely many times higher than whatever he spent on the ticket.
“This incident should serve as a warning that criminal behavior on board can come at a heavy cost to the offender,” Shona Davis, the AFP’s Acting Superintendent, said in a statement.
“It’s far simpler to obey the directions of airline staff than cause unnecessary issues, which can end up hitting you in the hip pocket.”
Although the flight happened on September 25, 2023, it has taken about a year for the case against the unruly passenger to work its way through the Australian legal system.
Neither the man nor the airline was publicly named, nor was it specified exactly what he did to earn such a hefty penalty.
The passenger pleaded guilty to one count of disorderly behavior on an aircraft and one count of failure to comply with safety instructions.
While charging a disruptive traveler for the cost of fuel is not a typical penalty, other kinds of fines are more common.
In 2021, the US Federal Aviation Administration announced that they would be introducing a zero-tolerance policy for fliers behaving badly on planes.
That year, passengers were issued fines for a range of incidents on planes across the United States, including one passenger who attempted to enter the plane’s cockpit and had to be restrained and another who punched a flight attendant in the face, sending them to the hospital. The most serious cases of in-flight mischief are also reported to the Department of Justice.
The single highest individual penalty, $40,823, was issued to a traveler who brought their own alcohol on board, was intoxicated, attempted to smoke marijuana in the lavatory, and sexually assaulted a flight attendant – all in a single flight.
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Re: Passengers Behaving Badly
Good on them. We need more of that in the UK, where currently, barely a week goes by without some major incident or other. Make them pay, and if they don't, send the bailiffs in, and if they've got nowt, give them some paid work to do until they've paid off the fine.
Sooner or later, one of these incidents will end up as something more serious. Of course, once that happens, something will be done.
Sooner or later, one of these incidents will end up as something more serious. Of course, once that happens, something will be done.
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They should have charged him the landing fees too.
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Re: Passengers Behaving Badly
He got away, very lightly. I can think of many other charges. It should have been charter of the aircraft for an hour. Plus paying all the pax for their time.
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Passenger arrested after trying to choke flight attendant and saying plane ‘is going down’ on California flight, DOJ says
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/15/travel/c ... index.html
A California man is facing federal charges after he allegedly tried to choke a flight attendant and “said he was going to kill everybody” while on board a Frontier Airlines flight to San Francisco that had to be diverted on Monday, authorities said.
Charles Angel Salva, a 30-year-old from Fremont, made an initial court appearance Wednesday and was charged with interference with flight crew members and attendants, according to a news release from the US Attorney’s Office, Central District of California.
The airplane was climbing shortly after takeoff from Orange County, California, when flight attendants noticed oxygen masks in one of the plane’s rows were out of the overhead compartment. “Flight attendants investigated and discovered that Salva had his hand in the overhead compartment,” the US Attorney’s Office said.
A passenger told law enforcement that it appeared Salva was “claustrophobic” and “seemed like he wanted to get off the plane,” the US Attorney’s Office said, adding that the man got his hand stuck in the overhead compartment after he pulled the oxygen mask from there.
During the incident, Salva yelled obscenities at flight attendants and allegedly said, “We are all going to hell,” and “This airplane is going down,” the release said.
“Passengers helped restrain Salva, who broke out of flex cuffs and had to be restrained by a seatbelt,” the release said. “During the incident, Salva kicked one flight attendant approximately six times in the leg, causing apparent bruising and swelling, which required medical attention.”
The flight attendant whom he allegedly attempted to choke was also left with small marks to the neck, according to the US Attorney’s Office.
The flight attendants did not feel safe trying to put Salva back in his seat, and the flight was diverted to Ontario International Airport in California, the release said.
The FAA confirmed that the flight landed safely in Ontario International Airport around 6 p.m. after the crew reported a passenger disturbance and told CNN it will investigate the incident.
CNN has reached out to Salva’s attorney for comment and to Frontier Airlines for further information.
If convicted of the interference with flight crew charge, Salva would face a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison, according to the US Attorney’s Office.
Salva is currently being held in the custody of the US Marshals Service, according to court records. His preliminary hearing is set for September 26.
The FBI and the Ontario Police Department are investigating the incident.
In 2021, the US Federal Aviation Administration announced that they would be introducing a zero-tolerance policy for fliers behaving badly on planes.
That year, passengers were issued fines for a range of incidents on planes across the United States, including one passenger who attempted to enter the plane’s cockpit and had to be restrained and another who punched a flight attendant in the face, sending them to the hospital. The most serious cases of in-flight mischief are also reported to the Department of Justice.
The single highest individual penalty, $40,823, was issued to a traveler who brought their own alcohol on board, was intoxicated, attempted to smoke marijuana in the lavatory, and sexually assaulted a flight attendant – all in a single flight.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/15/travel/c ... index.html
A California man is facing federal charges after he allegedly tried to choke a flight attendant and “said he was going to kill everybody” while on board a Frontier Airlines flight to San Francisco that had to be diverted on Monday, authorities said.
Charles Angel Salva, a 30-year-old from Fremont, made an initial court appearance Wednesday and was charged with interference with flight crew members and attendants, according to a news release from the US Attorney’s Office, Central District of California.
The airplane was climbing shortly after takeoff from Orange County, California, when flight attendants noticed oxygen masks in one of the plane’s rows were out of the overhead compartment. “Flight attendants investigated and discovered that Salva had his hand in the overhead compartment,” the US Attorney’s Office said.
A passenger told law enforcement that it appeared Salva was “claustrophobic” and “seemed like he wanted to get off the plane,” the US Attorney’s Office said, adding that the man got his hand stuck in the overhead compartment after he pulled the oxygen mask from there.
During the incident, Salva yelled obscenities at flight attendants and allegedly said, “We are all going to hell,” and “This airplane is going down,” the release said.
“Passengers helped restrain Salva, who broke out of flex cuffs and had to be restrained by a seatbelt,” the release said. “During the incident, Salva kicked one flight attendant approximately six times in the leg, causing apparent bruising and swelling, which required medical attention.”
The flight attendant whom he allegedly attempted to choke was also left with small marks to the neck, according to the US Attorney’s Office.
The flight attendants did not feel safe trying to put Salva back in his seat, and the flight was diverted to Ontario International Airport in California, the release said.
The FAA confirmed that the flight landed safely in Ontario International Airport around 6 p.m. after the crew reported a passenger disturbance and told CNN it will investigate the incident.
CNN has reached out to Salva’s attorney for comment and to Frontier Airlines for further information.
If convicted of the interference with flight crew charge, Salva would face a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison, according to the US Attorney’s Office.
Salva is currently being held in the custody of the US Marshals Service, according to court records. His preliminary hearing is set for September 26.
The FBI and the Ontario Police Department are investigating the incident.
In 2021, the US Federal Aviation Administration announced that they would be introducing a zero-tolerance policy for fliers behaving badly on planes.
That year, passengers were issued fines for a range of incidents on planes across the United States, including one passenger who attempted to enter the plane’s cockpit and had to be restrained and another who punched a flight attendant in the face, sending them to the hospital. The most serious cases of in-flight mischief are also reported to the Department of Justice.
The single highest individual penalty, $40,823, was issued to a traveler who brought their own alcohol on board, was intoxicated, attempted to smoke marijuana in the lavatory, and sexually assaulted a flight attendant – all in a single flight.
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Cathay Pacific bans couple after seat-reclining spat
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/23/travel/c ... index.html
Hong Kong-based airline Cathay Pacific has banned two passengers from its flights after an argument over seat-reclining etiquette descended into xenophobic insults.
The incident occurred during a flight from Hong Kong to London on September 17, and a female passenger from mainland China recounted her experience in a video posted on on Xiaohongshu (Little Red Book), China’s version of Instagram.
“The lady sitting behind me asked me to put my seat up because it was blocking her husband’s view of the TV. I politely declined, and she started stretching her feet onto my armrest, kicking my arm and cursing at me like crazy,” she said.
A flight attendant attempted to mediate by suggesting the woman raised her seat, but she refused, and the situation escalated.
“When (the female passenger) realized my Cantonese wasn’t so great, she started throwing around some nasty comments, calling me a ‘Mainland girl’ and other derogatory stuff,” the woman said.
People from Hong Kong speak mainly Cantonese, whereas mainland Chinese mainly speak Mandarin.
“Once I started recording, the husband behind me even shoved his hand on my armrest and started shaking it like crazy. I felt my personal space had been completely violated,” added the woman, who said other passengers then intervened.
In footage of the incident uploaded by the woman, a female voice can be heard saying in Mandarin: “You’re old enough — why are you bullying a young girl?”
And others can be heard shouting in Cantonese: “You’re embarrassing us Hongkongers!” and “Stop saying you’re from Hong Kong!”
“After some passengers spoke up for me, the flight attendant finally said I could switch seats. I felt it was absurd—what if no one had backed me up? Would I have just been left to deal with it on my own?” the passenger said.
“As a major airline, isn’t Cathay supposed to know how to handle such disputes? Shouldn’t treating passengers differently get some consequences?”
In a statement released Saturday, Cathay Pacific said it wanted to “sincerely apologize” for the “unpleasant experience.”
“We maintain a zero-tolerance policy for any behavior that violates aviation safety regulations or disrespects the rights of other customers,” the airline said.
“We will deny future travel on any Cathay Group flights to the two customers involved in this incident.”
While the incident adds to the long-running and often heated debate over the etiquette around reclining seats on planes, it also highlights tension between people from the Chinese mainland and Hong Kongers – the result of differing political views and cultural identities, and fueled by the 2019 pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong.
The woman later posted a follow-up video in which she said she thought the incident was “an isolated case and a personal issue; it doesn’t need to be blown out of proportion.”
“Whether on the plane or online, many Hong Kongers came to help and support me. There are still plenty of nice people in this world!” she added.
However, Cathay, Hong Kong’s flag carrier, has got into hot water with Chinese authorities in the past.
Some of its staff took part in the 2019 protests, leading to a backlash from the Chinese government, and this is not the first incident involving alleged anti-Chinese discrimination on board a Cathay flight.
In May 2023, the airline said it had fired three cabin crew members after a passenger from mainland China complained of discrimination.
In a statement announcing the dismissals, Cathay Pacific CEO Ronald Lam said he would personally lead a task force to improve service and avoid similar incidents in the future.
“We need to ensure that all Cathay Pacific employees must at all times respect customers from different backgrounds and cultures, and that we provide quality services consistently across all markets that we serve,” he said.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/23/travel/c ... index.html
Hong Kong-based airline Cathay Pacific has banned two passengers from its flights after an argument over seat-reclining etiquette descended into xenophobic insults.
The incident occurred during a flight from Hong Kong to London on September 17, and a female passenger from mainland China recounted her experience in a video posted on on Xiaohongshu (Little Red Book), China’s version of Instagram.
“The lady sitting behind me asked me to put my seat up because it was blocking her husband’s view of the TV. I politely declined, and she started stretching her feet onto my armrest, kicking my arm and cursing at me like crazy,” she said.
A flight attendant attempted to mediate by suggesting the woman raised her seat, but she refused, and the situation escalated.
“When (the female passenger) realized my Cantonese wasn’t so great, she started throwing around some nasty comments, calling me a ‘Mainland girl’ and other derogatory stuff,” the woman said.
People from Hong Kong speak mainly Cantonese, whereas mainland Chinese mainly speak Mandarin.
“Once I started recording, the husband behind me even shoved his hand on my armrest and started shaking it like crazy. I felt my personal space had been completely violated,” added the woman, who said other passengers then intervened.
In footage of the incident uploaded by the woman, a female voice can be heard saying in Mandarin: “You’re old enough — why are you bullying a young girl?”
And others can be heard shouting in Cantonese: “You’re embarrassing us Hongkongers!” and “Stop saying you’re from Hong Kong!”
“After some passengers spoke up for me, the flight attendant finally said I could switch seats. I felt it was absurd—what if no one had backed me up? Would I have just been left to deal with it on my own?” the passenger said.
“As a major airline, isn’t Cathay supposed to know how to handle such disputes? Shouldn’t treating passengers differently get some consequences?”
In a statement released Saturday, Cathay Pacific said it wanted to “sincerely apologize” for the “unpleasant experience.”
“We maintain a zero-tolerance policy for any behavior that violates aviation safety regulations or disrespects the rights of other customers,” the airline said.
“We will deny future travel on any Cathay Group flights to the two customers involved in this incident.”
While the incident adds to the long-running and often heated debate over the etiquette around reclining seats on planes, it also highlights tension between people from the Chinese mainland and Hong Kongers – the result of differing political views and cultural identities, and fueled by the 2019 pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong.
The woman later posted a follow-up video in which she said she thought the incident was “an isolated case and a personal issue; it doesn’t need to be blown out of proportion.”
“Whether on the plane or online, many Hong Kongers came to help and support me. There are still plenty of nice people in this world!” she added.
However, Cathay, Hong Kong’s flag carrier, has got into hot water with Chinese authorities in the past.
Some of its staff took part in the 2019 protests, leading to a backlash from the Chinese government, and this is not the first incident involving alleged anti-Chinese discrimination on board a Cathay flight.
In May 2023, the airline said it had fired three cabin crew members after a passenger from mainland China complained of discrimination.
In a statement announcing the dismissals, Cathay Pacific CEO Ronald Lam said he would personally lead a task force to improve service and avoid similar incidents in the future.
“We need to ensure that all Cathay Pacific employees must at all times respect customers from different backgrounds and cultures, and that we provide quality services consistently across all markets that we serve,” he said.
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Cathay Pacific bans couple after seat-reclining spat
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/23/travel/c ... index.html
Hong Kong-based airline Cathay Pacific has banned two passengers from its flights after an argument over seat-reclining etiquette descended into xenophobic insults.
The incident occurred during a flight from Hong Kong to London on September 17, and a female passenger from mainland China recounted her experience in a video posted on on Xiaohongshu (Little Red Book), China’s version of Instagram.
“The lady sitting behind me asked me to put my seat up because it was blocking her husband’s view of the TV. I politely declined, and she started stretching her feet onto my armrest, kicking my arm and cursing at me like crazy,” she said.
A flight attendant attempted to mediate by suggesting the woman raised her seat, but she refused, and the situation escalated.
“When (the female passenger) realized my Cantonese wasn’t so great, she started throwing around some nasty comments, calling me a ‘Mainland girl’ and other derogatory stuff,” the woman said.
People from Hong Kong speak mainly Cantonese, whereas mainland Chinese mainly speak Mandarin.
“Once I started recording, the husband behind me even shoved his hand on my armrest and started shaking it like crazy. I felt my personal space had been completely violated,” added the woman, who said other passengers then intervened.
In footage of the incident uploaded by the woman, a female voice can be heard saying in Mandarin: “You’re old enough — why are you bullying a young girl?”
And others can be heard shouting in Cantonese: “You’re embarrassing us Hongkongers!” and “Stop saying you’re from Hong Kong!”
“After some passengers spoke up for me, the flight attendant finally said I could switch seats. I felt it was absurd—what if no one had backed me up? Would I have just been left to deal with it on my own?” the passenger said.
“As a major airline, isn’t Cathay supposed to know how to handle such disputes? Shouldn’t treating passengers differently get some consequences?”
In a statement released Saturday, Cathay Pacific said it wanted to “sincerely apologize” for the “unpleasant experience.”
“We maintain a zero-tolerance policy for any behavior that violates aviation safety regulations or disrespects the rights of other customers,” the airline said.
“We will deny future travel on any Cathay Group flights to the two customers involved in this incident.”
While the incident adds to the long-running and often heated debate over the etiquette around reclining seats on planes, it also highlights tension between people from the Chinese mainland and Hong Kongers – the result of differing political views and cultural identities, and fueled by the 2019 pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong.
The woman later posted a follow-up video in which she said she thought the incident was “an isolated case and a personal issue; it doesn’t need to be blown out of proportion.”
“Whether on the plane or online, many Hong Kongers came to help and support me. There are still plenty of nice people in this world!” she added.
However, Cathay, Hong Kong’s flag carrier, has got into hot water with Chinese authorities in the past.
Some of its staff took part in the 2019 protests, leading to a backlash from the Chinese government, and this is not the first incident involving alleged anti-Chinese discrimination on board a Cathay flight.
In May 2023, the airline said it had fired three cabin crew members after a passenger from mainland China complained of discrimination.
In a statement announcing the dismissals, Cathay Pacific CEO Ronald Lam said he would personally lead a task force to improve service and avoid similar incidents in the future.
“We need to ensure that all Cathay Pacific employees must at all times respect customers from different backgrounds and cultures, and that we provide quality services consistently across all markets that we serve,” he said.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/23/travel/c ... index.html
Hong Kong-based airline Cathay Pacific has banned two passengers from its flights after an argument over seat-reclining etiquette descended into xenophobic insults.
The incident occurred during a flight from Hong Kong to London on September 17, and a female passenger from mainland China recounted her experience in a video posted on on Xiaohongshu (Little Red Book), China’s version of Instagram.
“The lady sitting behind me asked me to put my seat up because it was blocking her husband’s view of the TV. I politely declined, and she started stretching her feet onto my armrest, kicking my arm and cursing at me like crazy,” she said.
A flight attendant attempted to mediate by suggesting the woman raised her seat, but she refused, and the situation escalated.
“When (the female passenger) realized my Cantonese wasn’t so great, she started throwing around some nasty comments, calling me a ‘Mainland girl’ and other derogatory stuff,” the woman said.
People from Hong Kong speak mainly Cantonese, whereas mainland Chinese mainly speak Mandarin.
“Once I started recording, the husband behind me even shoved his hand on my armrest and started shaking it like crazy. I felt my personal space had been completely violated,” added the woman, who said other passengers then intervened.
In footage of the incident uploaded by the woman, a female voice can be heard saying in Mandarin: “You’re old enough — why are you bullying a young girl?”
And others can be heard shouting in Cantonese: “You’re embarrassing us Hongkongers!” and “Stop saying you’re from Hong Kong!”
“After some passengers spoke up for me, the flight attendant finally said I could switch seats. I felt it was absurd—what if no one had backed me up? Would I have just been left to deal with it on my own?” the passenger said.
“As a major airline, isn’t Cathay supposed to know how to handle such disputes? Shouldn’t treating passengers differently get some consequences?”
In a statement released Saturday, Cathay Pacific said it wanted to “sincerely apologize” for the “unpleasant experience.”
“We maintain a zero-tolerance policy for any behavior that violates aviation safety regulations or disrespects the rights of other customers,” the airline said.
“We will deny future travel on any Cathay Group flights to the two customers involved in this incident.”
While the incident adds to the long-running and often heated debate over the etiquette around reclining seats on planes, it also highlights tension between people from the Chinese mainland and Hong Kongers – the result of differing political views and cultural identities, and fueled by the 2019 pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong.
The woman later posted a follow-up video in which she said she thought the incident was “an isolated case and a personal issue; it doesn’t need to be blown out of proportion.”
“Whether on the plane or online, many Hong Kongers came to help and support me. There are still plenty of nice people in this world!” she added.
However, Cathay, Hong Kong’s flag carrier, has got into hot water with Chinese authorities in the past.
Some of its staff took part in the 2019 protests, leading to a backlash from the Chinese government, and this is not the first incident involving alleged anti-Chinese discrimination on board a Cathay flight.
In May 2023, the airline said it had fired three cabin crew members after a passenger from mainland China complained of discrimination.
In a statement announcing the dismissals, Cathay Pacific CEO Ronald Lam said he would personally lead a task force to improve service and avoid similar incidents in the future.
“We need to ensure that all Cathay Pacific employees must at all times respect customers from different backgrounds and cultures, and that we provide quality services consistently across all markets that we serve,” he said.
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Man allegedly pummels sleeping passenger in the face in bloody unprovoked attack on United Airlines flight
During the alleged one-minute attack, blood splattered on the seat, the wall and the window. Everett Chad Nelson was charged with one count of assault.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ma ... rcna178194
A man is accused of viciously attacking a sleeping passenger on a United Airlines flight Monday afternoon, leaving him bloody and bruised, federal authorities said.
The assault occurred on a flight from San Francisco International Airport in California to Dulles International Airport in Virginia, court documents state.
Authorities said that about two hours into the flight Everett Chad Nelson left his seat in 35F and went to the bathroom at the front of the plane.
On his way back to his seat, Nelson allegedly stopped at seat 12F and "without notice began physically attacking a sleeping male passenger by punching him repeatedly in the face and head until blood was drawn," the court filing says.
The victim, who is not identified in the court documents, woke up screaming.
During the alleged one-minute attack, blood splattered on Nelson's coat, the seat, the wall and the window, the filing states. The victim had bruising on his eyes and a gash on his nose. He was treated by a doctor on the flight.
Authorities said a fellow passenger intervened and monitored Nelson at a seat near the front of the plane until it landed in Virginia. No other incidents occurred on the flight.
Nelson had no visible injuries, according to the filing, and it does not appear that the victim struck him in self-defense.
United Airlines thanked customers and crew members for quickly restraining Nelson.
"The flight landed safely and was met by paramedics and local law enforcement," the airline said in a statement.
Nelson was charged with one count of assault by beating, striking, and wounding. His attorney did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Thursday.
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During the alleged one-minute attack, blood splattered on the seat, the wall and the window. Everett Chad Nelson was charged with one count of assault.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ma ... rcna178194
A man is accused of viciously attacking a sleeping passenger on a United Airlines flight Monday afternoon, leaving him bloody and bruised, federal authorities said.
The assault occurred on a flight from San Francisco International Airport in California to Dulles International Airport in Virginia, court documents state.
Authorities said that about two hours into the flight Everett Chad Nelson left his seat in 35F and went to the bathroom at the front of the plane.
On his way back to his seat, Nelson allegedly stopped at seat 12F and "without notice began physically attacking a sleeping male passenger by punching him repeatedly in the face and head until blood was drawn," the court filing says.
The victim, who is not identified in the court documents, woke up screaming.
During the alleged one-minute attack, blood splattered on Nelson's coat, the seat, the wall and the window, the filing states. The victim had bruising on his eyes and a gash on his nose. He was treated by a doctor on the flight.
Authorities said a fellow passenger intervened and monitored Nelson at a seat near the front of the plane until it landed in Virginia. No other incidents occurred on the flight.
Nelson had no visible injuries, according to the filing, and it does not appear that the victim struck him in self-defense.
United Airlines thanked customers and crew members for quickly restraining Nelson.
"The flight landed safely and was met by paramedics and local law enforcement," the airline said in a statement.
Nelson was charged with one count of assault by beating, striking, and wounding. His attorney did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Thursday.
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I suppose they do things a little differently in Indonesia...
From The Aviation Herald: (my italics)
Accident: Trigana B735 at Jayapura on Nov 5th 2024, engine fire, evacuation
By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Nov 5th 2024 11:16Z, last updated Tuesday, Nov 5th 2024 11:16Z
A Trigana Air Boeing 737-500, registration PK-YSC performing flight IL-273 from Jayapura to Wamena (Indonesia) with 121 passengers and 8 crew, had been pushed back and was starting its engines at 11:21L (02:21Z), when fire became visible out of the right hand engine. The aircraft was evacuated, 4 passengers received minor injuries as result.
Indonesia's Ministry of Transport reported the Boeing 737-500 registration PK-YSC suffered an incident in which thick smoke came out of the right hand engine and the engine erupted in flames after push back and engine start, the passengers panicked and opened the left hand forward and wing emergency exits and exited the aircraft. The occurrence is under investigation by the KNKT. A replacement Boeing 737-300 registration PK-YRA took the passengers to Wamena.
The airport reported 4 passengers received minor injuries as a result of the evacuation.
A replacement Boeing 737-300 registration PK-YRA reached Wamena as flight IL-275 with a delay of about 2.5 hours.
The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground in Jayapura about 9 hours after the occurrence.
From The Aviation Herald: (my italics)
Accident: Trigana B735 at Jayapura on Nov 5th 2024, engine fire, evacuation
By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Nov 5th 2024 11:16Z, last updated Tuesday, Nov 5th 2024 11:16Z
A Trigana Air Boeing 737-500, registration PK-YSC performing flight IL-273 from Jayapura to Wamena (Indonesia) with 121 passengers and 8 crew, had been pushed back and was starting its engines at 11:21L (02:21Z), when fire became visible out of the right hand engine. The aircraft was evacuated, 4 passengers received minor injuries as result.
Indonesia's Ministry of Transport reported the Boeing 737-500 registration PK-YSC suffered an incident in which thick smoke came out of the right hand engine and the engine erupted in flames after push back and engine start, the passengers panicked and opened the left hand forward and wing emergency exits and exited the aircraft. The occurrence is under investigation by the KNKT. A replacement Boeing 737-300 registration PK-YRA took the passengers to Wamena.
The airport reported 4 passengers received minor injuries as a result of the evacuation.
A replacement Boeing 737-300 registration PK-YRA reached Wamena as flight IL-275 with a delay of about 2.5 hours.
The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground in Jayapura about 9 hours after the occurrence.
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Auburn men’s basketball team flight diverted after altercation between players, per CNN affiliate WBRC
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/09/sport/au ... index.html
A plane carrying the Auburn men’s basketball team had to be diverted following an altercation on the flight, according to CNN affiliate WBRC.
The Tigers were heading to Texas where the No. 11 ranked program is scheduled to face No. 4 Houston on Saturday at the Toyota Center.
According to WBRC, the pilot requested an emergency landing in Montgomery, Alabama.
Per the WBRC report, air traffic control asked the pilot what the level of threat was, to which the pilot responded, “We have a bunch of basketball players fighting.”
CNN has reached out to Auburn athletics, Auburn police, and the Auburn airport but did not immediately hear back.
Per ESPN, the apparent scuffle was over before it became a serious situation, but the flight personnel decided to divert back to Auburn.
Auburn was still expecting to travel to Houston on Friday night, according to ESPN.
The Tigers are 1-0 on the season following a blowout win over Vermont earlier this week.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/09/sport/au ... index.html
A plane carrying the Auburn men’s basketball team had to be diverted following an altercation on the flight, according to CNN affiliate WBRC.
The Tigers were heading to Texas where the No. 11 ranked program is scheduled to face No. 4 Houston on Saturday at the Toyota Center.
According to WBRC, the pilot requested an emergency landing in Montgomery, Alabama.
Per the WBRC report, air traffic control asked the pilot what the level of threat was, to which the pilot responded, “We have a bunch of basketball players fighting.”
CNN has reached out to Auburn athletics, Auburn police, and the Auburn airport but did not immediately hear back.
Per ESPN, the apparent scuffle was over before it became a serious situation, but the flight personnel decided to divert back to Auburn.
Auburn was still expecting to travel to Houston on Friday night, according to ESPN.
The Tigers are 1-0 on the season following a blowout win over Vermont earlier this week.
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Passengers duct tape man who allegedly tried to open door during American Airlines flight to Texas
The passenger allegedly told a flight attendant about “wanting and needing to exit the aircraft now” then jumped on her, injuring her neck and wrist, authorities said in a report.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pa ... rcna181142
A group of passengers on board an American Airlines flight restrained and tied up a passenger with duct tape after he allegedly tried to open an aircraft door mid-flight.
The incident happened on American Airlines flight 1915 from Milwaukee to Dallas-Fort Worth on Tuesday.
Passengers jumped into help after seeing a disruptive passenger from Canada allegedly tell a flight attendant near the front of the plane that he needed to exit via a cabin door.
In the ordeal, the passenger went up to a flight attendant in the front galley of the aircraft and made a comment about “wanting and needing to exit the aircraft now,” according to a Dallas Fort Worth International Airport Department of Public Safety report.
The flight attendant told authorities the passenger’s voice got louder and he became more agitated. She made a call to the rear flight attendant to request more people in the front and also made a hand gesture to passengers near her indicating she needed assistance.
She then placed herself between the left, first entry door on the aircraft and the passenger, and he rushed towards her and the door. He jumped on top of her in his effort to access the cabin door, injuring her left wrist and neck, the report said.
One of the passengers, Doug McCright, bear hugged the unruly passenger in an attempt to pull him off of her.
“The only thing you could think about was, 'I’ve gotta stop this guy,'” McCright, who was sitting in the front row of the flight, told NBC News. He recalled hearing the unruly passenger say, “I’m getting off this plane. I need to get off the plane.”
Another flight attendant told authorities the passenger told her he wanted to get off the flight because he was the “captain.” This flight attendant tried to deescalate the man, but he did not listen and kept insisting he was getting off the flight.
Passenger Charlie Boris also jumped into help.
“The fight or flight instinct kind of came over. And yeah after processing and the situation was done, yeah I’m very thankful to be here,” Boris told NBC’s Jesse Kirsch.
According to the report, Boris told authorities that on the flight he learned there was a man trying to open the cabin door and went to the front of the plane to assist. Once there, he saw the passenger on the ground trying to “get free.” Boris sprung into action by pinning the man’s legs down with pressure and he said duct tape was used to subdue the male. Boris said the man was talking about being from Toronto and seeing a therapist.
Other passengers were also mentioned in the report as witnesses and assisting in restraining of the unruly man. One told authorities it took at least three people to keep the passenger down.
When the plane landed at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport, officers said they arrived to find “a male passenger on board who was secured and restrained with tape.”
The passenger was seen lying on his stomach with his hands behind his back bound as well as his ankles with duct tape, the report said.
The passenger was transported for evaluation. The investigation is ongoing.
American Airlines said that the restraint tape used in the incident is included in an onboard kit as a safety measure.
“The safety and security of our customers and team members is our top priority and we thank our team members and customers for managing a difficult situation,” the airline said.
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The passenger allegedly told a flight attendant about “wanting and needing to exit the aircraft now” then jumped on her, injuring her neck and wrist, authorities said in a report.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pa ... rcna181142
A group of passengers on board an American Airlines flight restrained and tied up a passenger with duct tape after he allegedly tried to open an aircraft door mid-flight.
The incident happened on American Airlines flight 1915 from Milwaukee to Dallas-Fort Worth on Tuesday.
Passengers jumped into help after seeing a disruptive passenger from Canada allegedly tell a flight attendant near the front of the plane that he needed to exit via a cabin door.
In the ordeal, the passenger went up to a flight attendant in the front galley of the aircraft and made a comment about “wanting and needing to exit the aircraft now,” according to a Dallas Fort Worth International Airport Department of Public Safety report.
The flight attendant told authorities the passenger’s voice got louder and he became more agitated. She made a call to the rear flight attendant to request more people in the front and also made a hand gesture to passengers near her indicating she needed assistance.
She then placed herself between the left, first entry door on the aircraft and the passenger, and he rushed towards her and the door. He jumped on top of her in his effort to access the cabin door, injuring her left wrist and neck, the report said.
One of the passengers, Doug McCright, bear hugged the unruly passenger in an attempt to pull him off of her.
“The only thing you could think about was, 'I’ve gotta stop this guy,'” McCright, who was sitting in the front row of the flight, told NBC News. He recalled hearing the unruly passenger say, “I’m getting off this plane. I need to get off the plane.”
Another flight attendant told authorities the passenger told her he wanted to get off the flight because he was the “captain.” This flight attendant tried to deescalate the man, but he did not listen and kept insisting he was getting off the flight.
Passenger Charlie Boris also jumped into help.
“The fight or flight instinct kind of came over. And yeah after processing and the situation was done, yeah I’m very thankful to be here,” Boris told NBC’s Jesse Kirsch.
According to the report, Boris told authorities that on the flight he learned there was a man trying to open the cabin door and went to the front of the plane to assist. Once there, he saw the passenger on the ground trying to “get free.” Boris sprung into action by pinning the man’s legs down with pressure and he said duct tape was used to subdue the male. Boris said the man was talking about being from Toronto and seeing a therapist.
Other passengers were also mentioned in the report as witnesses and assisting in restraining of the unruly man. One told authorities it took at least three people to keep the passenger down.
When the plane landed at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport, officers said they arrived to find “a male passenger on board who was secured and restrained with tape.”
The passenger was seen lying on his stomach with his hands behind his back bound as well as his ankles with duct tape, the report said.
The passenger was transported for evaluation. The investigation is ongoing.
American Airlines said that the restraint tape used in the incident is included in an onboard kit as a safety measure.
“The safety and security of our customers and team members is our top priority and we thank our team members and customers for managing a difficult situation,” the airline said.
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Stowaway found after boarding flight from New York to Paris
The woman was removed from the plane by law enforcement after landing at Charles de Gaulle Airport, a source with knowledge of the incident told NBC News.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/st ... rcna182103
A stowaway bypassed screening measures before being discovered on a flight from New York to Paris amid the Thanksgiving travel rush, authorities said Wednesday.
The unidentified woman was on Delta flight 264 from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York to Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris on Tuesday.
A source with knowledge of the incident told NBC News that she was removed from the aircraft by law enforcement after it landed in Paris.
The woman — who got on the flight without a ticket — bypassed two "identity verification and boarding status stations and boarded the aircraft," a spokesperson for the Transportation Security Administration said in a statement.
She completed a full security screening before boarding, the spokesperson said, meaning she did not have any prohibited items in tow and did not pose a security threat.
It is not clear how the woman bypassed ticketing stations to board the aircraft, but authorities said that in order to be at a departure gate, a person must have cleared the security checkpoint.
The flight took off from JFK at 10:37 p.m. ET and landed in Paris at 12:00 p.m. CET, according to flight tracking website FlightAware.
"Nothing is of greater importance than matters of safety and security," Delta Airlines said in a statement. "That's why Delta is conducting an exhaustive investigation of what may have occurred and will work collaboratively with other aviation stakeholders and law enforcement to that end."
No other details were given about the woman.
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The woman was removed from the plane by law enforcement after landing at Charles de Gaulle Airport, a source with knowledge of the incident told NBC News.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/st ... rcna182103
A stowaway bypassed screening measures before being discovered on a flight from New York to Paris amid the Thanksgiving travel rush, authorities said Wednesday.
The unidentified woman was on Delta flight 264 from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York to Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris on Tuesday.
A source with knowledge of the incident told NBC News that she was removed from the aircraft by law enforcement after it landed in Paris.
The woman — who got on the flight without a ticket — bypassed two "identity verification and boarding status stations and boarded the aircraft," a spokesperson for the Transportation Security Administration said in a statement.
She completed a full security screening before boarding, the spokesperson said, meaning she did not have any prohibited items in tow and did not pose a security threat.
It is not clear how the woman bypassed ticketing stations to board the aircraft, but authorities said that in order to be at a departure gate, a person must have cleared the security checkpoint.
The flight took off from JFK at 10:37 p.m. ET and landed in Paris at 12:00 p.m. CET, according to flight tracking website FlightAware.
"Nothing is of greater importance than matters of safety and security," Delta Airlines said in a statement. "That's why Delta is conducting an exhaustive investigation of what may have occurred and will work collaboratively with other aviation stakeholders and law enforcement to that end."
No other details were given about the woman.
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In-Flight Incident Goes Viral After United Airlines Passenger Was Captured Attacking His Seat Mid-Flight
https://simpleflying.com/united-airline ... 7101120838
There are undoubtedly countless airline passengers each year who are frustrated with their seat assignments or grow angry because of a seat assignment between two less-than-ideal seatmates. However, most typically react the way airlines would expect you to, by remaining silent and simply hoping the flight will pass by quicker.
This, however, was not the reaction of a United Airlines passenger last week, an incident that has since gone viral. On November 16th, 2024, a passenger seated in the middle seat onboard United Airlines Flight 502 from Austin Bergstrom International Airport (AUS) to Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) decided to express his frustration with his seat assignment by attacking his seat, an incident that some news outlets have referred to as an "altercation."
In a video that first emerged on Reddit but has since scattered across the internet, the passenger in question is seen attacking his seat while in flight. It is not exactly clear what led to the incident occurring. However, sources, including the New York Post, have indicated that fellow passengers were forced to restain the disruptive passenger.
At least one passenger onboard the aircraft reported that she was awoken by the incident when she said she heard the noise of him attacking his seat. The incident took place when the aircraft was around an hour away from Los Angeles, and no additional injuries have been reported at this time. The airline also confirmed that the passenger in question has been permanently banned from flying with United Airlines.
Many questions remain unclear about the cause of this bizarre incident
In the video, the problem-causing passenger, who was wearing a hoodie and sweatpants, appears to stand on his seat and stomp on it repeatedly, while shocked passengers appear to look on in confusion. While no one tried to intervene at first, a flight attendant eventually decided to put an end to this nonsense.
Eventually, a pair of passengers was called to assist in the process of stopping the nonsense that was taking place. One passenger, a counselor from San Diego, said that he and a few others zip-tied the problem-causing passenger's hands and belted him into the seat to prevent him from causing further problems. A different passenger also noted that a screaming child in the seat behind the rampaging passenger may have been part of the problem.
Not the first time something strange has happened on an aircraft this past week
A completely different, yet similarly bizarre incident, occurred last week onboard an American Airlines flight, when a passenger charged at a flight attendant, claiming that he was going to open the aircraft door. The passenger was eventually restrained and had to be held down with duct tape. A similarly strange accident occurred in which a Frontier Airlines passenger elected to file suit against the carrier after a flight attendant spilled hot tea on him.
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https://simpleflying.com/united-airline ... 7101120838
There are undoubtedly countless airline passengers each year who are frustrated with their seat assignments or grow angry because of a seat assignment between two less-than-ideal seatmates. However, most typically react the way airlines would expect you to, by remaining silent and simply hoping the flight will pass by quicker.
This, however, was not the reaction of a United Airlines passenger last week, an incident that has since gone viral. On November 16th, 2024, a passenger seated in the middle seat onboard United Airlines Flight 502 from Austin Bergstrom International Airport (AUS) to Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) decided to express his frustration with his seat assignment by attacking his seat, an incident that some news outlets have referred to as an "altercation."
In a video that first emerged on Reddit but has since scattered across the internet, the passenger in question is seen attacking his seat while in flight. It is not exactly clear what led to the incident occurring. However, sources, including the New York Post, have indicated that fellow passengers were forced to restain the disruptive passenger.
At least one passenger onboard the aircraft reported that she was awoken by the incident when she said she heard the noise of him attacking his seat. The incident took place when the aircraft was around an hour away from Los Angeles, and no additional injuries have been reported at this time. The airline also confirmed that the passenger in question has been permanently banned from flying with United Airlines.
Many questions remain unclear about the cause of this bizarre incident
In the video, the problem-causing passenger, who was wearing a hoodie and sweatpants, appears to stand on his seat and stomp on it repeatedly, while shocked passengers appear to look on in confusion. While no one tried to intervene at first, a flight attendant eventually decided to put an end to this nonsense.
Eventually, a pair of passengers was called to assist in the process of stopping the nonsense that was taking place. One passenger, a counselor from San Diego, said that he and a few others zip-tied the problem-causing passenger's hands and belted him into the seat to prevent him from causing further problems. A different passenger also noted that a screaming child in the seat behind the rampaging passenger may have been part of the problem.
Not the first time something strange has happened on an aircraft this past week
A completely different, yet similarly bizarre incident, occurred last week onboard an American Airlines flight, when a passenger charged at a flight attendant, claiming that he was going to open the aircraft door. The passenger was eventually restrained and had to be held down with duct tape. A similarly strange accident occurred in which a Frontier Airlines passenger elected to file suit against the carrier after a flight attendant spilled hot tea on him.
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They don’t always wait until their onboard before misbehaving, screaming and throwing their toys out of the pram is a fairly common occurrence and that’s just the pilots 
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A non passenger in this case.
Stowaway who hid aboard a plane from the U.S. to France will be sent back, officials say
The woman reportedly hid in a bathroom aboard the plane for most of the flight.
https://www.abc15.com/life/travel/stowa ... icials-say
A stowaway who flew from New York to Paris this week will be denied entry to France and returned to the U.S., French officials said Friday.
Police in France say they arrested a Russian national with U.S. residency who had boarded a Delta Air Lines flight without a ticket. The woman was being held in Paris until she could be returned to the U.S.
The flight left John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York on Tuesday and arrived in Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris on Wednesday. The woman reportedly hid in a bathroom aboard the plane for most of the flight.
Officials say the individual did not have a boarding pass. A spokesperson for the Transportation Security Administration says the agency screened the passenger who didn't have a pass and who wasn't carrying anything prohibited on a plane.
“TSA takes any incidents that occur at any of our checkpoints nationwide seriously,” the spokesperson said. “TSA will independently review the circumstances of this incident at our travel document checker station at JFK.”
"Delta is conducting an exhaustive investigation of what may have occurred and will work collaboratively with other aviation stakeholders and law enforcement to that end," the airline said in a statement.
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Stowaway who hid aboard a plane from the U.S. to France will be sent back, officials say
The woman reportedly hid in a bathroom aboard the plane for most of the flight.
https://www.abc15.com/life/travel/stowa ... icials-say
A stowaway who flew from New York to Paris this week will be denied entry to France and returned to the U.S., French officials said Friday.
Police in France say they arrested a Russian national with U.S. residency who had boarded a Delta Air Lines flight without a ticket. The woman was being held in Paris until she could be returned to the U.S.
The flight left John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York on Tuesday and arrived in Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris on Wednesday. The woman reportedly hid in a bathroom aboard the plane for most of the flight.
Officials say the individual did not have a boarding pass. A spokesperson for the Transportation Security Administration says the agency screened the passenger who didn't have a pass and who wasn't carrying anything prohibited on a plane.
“TSA takes any incidents that occur at any of our checkpoints nationwide seriously,” the spokesperson said. “TSA will independently review the circumstances of this incident at our travel document checker station at JFK.”
"Delta is conducting an exhaustive investigation of what may have occurred and will work collaboratively with other aviation stakeholders and law enforcement to that end," the airline said in a statement.
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Stowaway who flew to Paris removed from flight back to New York after causing disturbance, source says
The woman was removed from the plane and is in custody of French authorities, a source said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/st ... rcna182352
The stowaway who boarded a flight in New York and made it all the way to Paris on Tuesday was removed from her return flight to the U.S. after causing a disturbance, a source said Sunday.
A source with knowledge of the situation said the woman "created a disturbance" on the Delta flight she was on that was set to return to New York.
The woman was removed from the plane and is in the custody of French authorities, the source said.
Additional details about the nature of the disturbance were not immediately available.
Delta confirmed there was a delay on Flight 265 from Paris to New York on Saturday due to an unruly passenger. The airline did not release any additional information.
The woman, who got on the flight to Paris last week without a boarding pass, bypassed two “identity verification and boarding status stations and boarded the aircraft,” a spokesperson for the Transportation Security Administration said in a statement Wednesday.
She completed a full security screening before she boarded Delta Flight 264 from John F. Kennedy International Airport to Charles de Gaulle Airport on Tuesday. This means she was not carrying any prohibited items and she did not pose a security threat, the TSA said Wednesday.
Law enforcement removed the stowaway from the plane when it landed in Paris, a source with knowledge of the incident said Wednesday.
According to a spokesperson for France's border police, a Russian passenger who stowed away on a flight from JFK to Charles de Gaulle was refused entry to France because she did not have a valid travel document or visa.
The woman, who had a valid U.S. residence permit, was placed in a holding zone to be returned to the U.S., the spokesperson said.
The public prosecutor for Pontoise, north of Paris, did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the initial incident or the alleged disturbance.
It is not clear how the woman was able to bypass ticketing stations to get on the plane Tuesday, and Delta said it would conduct an investigation.
"Nothing is of greater importance than matters of safety and security," Delta said in a statement. "That's why Delta is conducting an exhaustive investigation of what may have occurred and will work collaboratively with other aviation stakeholders and law enforcement to that end."
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The woman was removed from the plane and is in custody of French authorities, a source said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/st ... rcna182352
The stowaway who boarded a flight in New York and made it all the way to Paris on Tuesday was removed from her return flight to the U.S. after causing a disturbance, a source said Sunday.
A source with knowledge of the situation said the woman "created a disturbance" on the Delta flight she was on that was set to return to New York.
The woman was removed from the plane and is in the custody of French authorities, the source said.
Additional details about the nature of the disturbance were not immediately available.
Delta confirmed there was a delay on Flight 265 from Paris to New York on Saturday due to an unruly passenger. The airline did not release any additional information.
The woman, who got on the flight to Paris last week without a boarding pass, bypassed two “identity verification and boarding status stations and boarded the aircraft,” a spokesperson for the Transportation Security Administration said in a statement Wednesday.
She completed a full security screening before she boarded Delta Flight 264 from John F. Kennedy International Airport to Charles de Gaulle Airport on Tuesday. This means she was not carrying any prohibited items and she did not pose a security threat, the TSA said Wednesday.
Law enforcement removed the stowaway from the plane when it landed in Paris, a source with knowledge of the incident said Wednesday.
According to a spokesperson for France's border police, a Russian passenger who stowed away on a flight from JFK to Charles de Gaulle was refused entry to France because she did not have a valid travel document or visa.
The woman, who had a valid U.S. residence permit, was placed in a holding zone to be returned to the U.S., the spokesperson said.
The public prosecutor for Pontoise, north of Paris, did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the initial incident or the alleged disturbance.
It is not clear how the woman was able to bypass ticketing stations to get on the plane Tuesday, and Delta said it would conduct an investigation.
"Nothing is of greater importance than matters of safety and security," Delta said in a statement. "That's why Delta is conducting an exhaustive investigation of what may have occurred and will work collaboratively with other aviation stakeholders and law enforcement to that end."
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