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Re: Impact of coronavirus on aviation industry.

#421 Post by Woody » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:29 am

Lots of people sitting at home this weekend wondering whether we’re going to be employed or not on Monday and if so on what T&C’s X(
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#422 Post by 1DC » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:26 am

Good Luck, Woody..

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#423 Post by Rwy in Sight » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:37 am

Sometimes weekends can be so tough! All the best Woody!

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#424 Post by Woody » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:05 pm

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#425 Post by OFSO » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:11 pm

Fingers crossed from the OFSOs.....

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#426 Post by ribrash » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:30 pm

Hoping for the best Woody.

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#427 Post by ian16th » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:51 pm

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53687338
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Other workers such as engineers, ground crew and office staff
What 'engineers' are these? Are they not included as 'Ground Crew'?
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#428 Post by Woody » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:07 pm

Engineering is a separate section, with its own management and conditions, mainly parking in the wrong place and not having the correct bits to fix anything :((
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#429 Post by AtomKraft » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:35 pm

My advice to you Woody? Start drinking heavily!

Terrible thing to be at the mercy of these bastards.

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#430 Post by Woody » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:46 am

They’ve taken away the £1 per week that first aid trained staff received, that’s really going to help :((
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#431 Post by Ibbie » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:08 am

That's petty.

So petty, that I'll lay odds that the Waiter is behind that.

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#432 Post by Woody » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:24 am

Ibbie wrote:
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That's petty.

So petty, that I'll lay odds that the Waiter is behind that.
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#433 Post by Woody » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:52 pm

Got my Dear John email from BA this afternoon :((
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#434 Post by Wodrick » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:57 pm

Oh Dear, sorry.
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#435 Post by Woody » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:02 pm

After a lengthy adjournment late on Monday night the GSS NSP were issued with an ultimatum from the company. We were given a letter of intent with changes that we had not previously seen, agreed or even discussed. These changes had dramatic financial and contractual implications for our members and it was felt that under these conditions we could not accept this letter. Add to this the fact it was given to us so late by the company - like a double glazing salesman, sign now as it’s a one time offer – and the fact they had completely changed the agreement we were in discussions on, meant it was simply not possible to sign.
Also we had been clear from the beginning our terms and conditions were not part of the deal, which they said they accepted.
Up to this point we had met all the financial cost savings and business efficiencies that was required of us by the company, it is disappointing the company then changed its position at the last moment, but this was sadly not unexpected,
Why, because other areas were selling their terms and conditions, with up to 45% losses on their current terms, which we were not willing to do. These included lay off clauses, sit at home with no pay, short time working, seasonal hours which is the same as a zero hour contract.
These items are not in our national agreement, and there was other items in there that were just as unpalatable like removing all of our contractual agreements, like sickness, drug and alcohol testing, so you would have no rights, and putting us on the new OCG contract, or another new contract. So in theory we would have been moving into the new contracts by agreement and not by ‘fire and rehire’, which we can challenge in court, as constructive dismissal, and challenge industrially through strike action.
So is it that they did not really want a deal, or did they plan this from the beginning? They were happy to look after the pilots, but they are all highly paid, so we have to fight for what we have. The savings were there, if it was ever about costs, we reached the targets they gave us, they know that,
It seems strange that they are willing to offer a deal to the pilots that had industrial action a short while ago, but they are refusing to offer the same deal to us, so maybe that’s what it takes for them to listen,
There is similar proposal for cargo, to put all GSS on new contracts, and they also wish to split cargo and the ramp.
It’s now time to fight as they have decided this is what they are going do, we must do the same,
please do not agree any new job they offer, until clear advice is provided by unite.
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We agreed the futures agreement to protect all new staff coming into the GSS, current staff took some pain to reach this agreement, now all staff have the same terms and conditions, because of

that, so we all have the same, shifts pay, holidays, overtime rates. There is a plan to remove these terms and conditions by getting you to sign a new contract, don’t do it.
But now they have made some of our members redundant, shame on BA, we had a chance to maybe save some jobs, but they did not care, we will of course support them in any way we can. So don’t engage, if we don’t do something now, you will surely lose everything. We talking to unite about the next steps, and will keep you updated, and we will continue to fight for every job and
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#436 Post by G-CPTN » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:05 pm

Woody wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:52 pm
Got my Dear John email from BA this afternoon :((
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#437 Post by ribrash » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:21 pm

Sorry about that Woody.***** on from a great height.

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#438 Post by Rwy in Sight » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:49 pm

Woody, I hope the situation improves rapidly and before you know it you have a better job.

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#439 Post by Ibbie » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:25 am

Sorry to here that Woody.

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Re: Impact of coronavirus on aviation industry.

#440 Post by ian16th » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:29 am

Ibbie wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:25 am
Sorry to here that Woody.
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Just what happened? Fired? Redundancy? Early retirement? Fired & re-hired?
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