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#361 Post by Woody » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:57 am

British Airways, Ryanair and EasyJet have filed a formal legal challenge to the government's quarantine policy.
The airlines say the policy will have "a devastating effect on British tourism and the wider economy" and destroy thousands of jobs.
They have applied for a judicial review at the High Court.
The challenge claims that the quarantine rules for travellers are more stringent than those applied to people who actually have Covid-19.
BA lawyers assured of work for years to come :((
Willie Walsh, the boss of IAG, which owns BA, Iberia and Aer Lingus,has called the quarantine policy "irrational",
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#362 Post by Woody » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:22 pm

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that they’re out to get you, except in this case it probably does :ymdevil:

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#363 Post by Woody » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:51 pm

Even the shareholders think Willie and FSW have got it wrong X(

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#364 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:58 pm

Several major airlines are moving to end or temporarily suspend some alcoholic beverage services in response to the coronavirus outbreak.

https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... on-flights
Multiple airlines dropping alcohol on flights
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 06/16/20 07:53 PM EDT 157

Several major airlines are moving to end or temporarily suspend some alcoholic beverage services in response to the coronavirus outbreak.

CNN reported that several European airlines as well as Delta and American Airlines are moving to cut back on service of alcoholic beverages. Both Delta and American have ended beverage services on domestic flights, while some international flights may see services restricted as well.

"We’re limiting food and drink service on board based on flight length and destination. You’re welcome to bring snacks and soft drinks to enjoy during your flight," reads a note on American Airlines's website.

Delta pointed to the possibility of spreading coronavirus as a reason for altered food and beverage services in its own statement.

"We’re paring down to essential onboard food and beverage options in an effort to reduce physical touch points between customers and employees," the company said. "As always, you are welcome to bring your own food and non-alcoholic beverages on board to enjoy during flight. Since many airport offerings are limited at this time, we recommend packing your own refreshments and encourage you to review TSA guidelines, before bringing food through security checkpoints."

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The change has also been adopted by several European air travel companies including Easyjet, British Airways as well as Asia's Virgin Australia. Some have gone a step further and removed all non-alcoholic beverage options except for water.

Airlines continue to operate with a number of COVID-related restrictions, including social distancing guidelines and facial covering rules. Major airlines have also seen demand for flights both domestic and international plunge since the pandemic began.

Some hope for the industry appears to exist in the U.S. domestic flight market, which rebounded in June as the number of domestic U.S. travelers doubled from the month before.

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#365 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:07 pm

PHXPhlyer wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:58 pm
Several major airlines are moving to end or temporarily suspend some alcoholic beverage services in response to the coronavirus outbreak.

https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... on-flights
Multiple airlines dropping alcohol on flights
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 06/16/20 07:53 PM EDT 157

Several major airlines are moving to end or temporarily suspend some alcoholic beverage services in response to the coronavirus outbreak.

CNN reported that several European airlines as well as Delta and American Airlines are moving to cut back on service of alcoholic beverages. Both Delta and American have ended beverage services on domestic flights, while some international flights may see services restricted as well.

"We’re limiting food and drink service on board based on flight length and destination. You’re welcome to bring snacks and soft drinks to enjoy during your flight," reads a note on American Airlines's website.

Delta pointed to the possibility of spreading coronavirus as a reason for altered food and beverage services in its own statement.

"We’re paring down to essential onboard food and beverage options in an effort to reduce physical touch points between customers and employees," the company said. "As always, you are welcome to bring your own food and non-alcoholic beverages on board to enjoy during flight. Since many airport offerings are limited at this time, we recommend packing your own refreshments and encourage you to review TSA guidelines, before bringing food through security checkpoints."

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#366 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:11 pm

Is this double-decker seat the future of airplane travel?

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Is this double-decker seat the future of airplane travel?
story by Francesca Street, video by Diana Diroy, CNN • Updated 17th June 2020

(CNN) — A design that reconfigures airplane cabins with double-decker lie-flat seats in premium economy is being touted as a possible solution for fliers looking for more protection from the spread of Covid-19.
Zephyr Seat is the vision of designer Jeffrey O'Neill, who reckons the isolation from fellow passengers that his creation will offer could be a game changer in the wake of the pandemic.
"We believe that new types of travelers will require privacy or will want to pay extra for that as much as they would pay for the ability to sleep," O'Neill, the founder and CEO of start-up Zephyr Aerospace, tells CNN Travel.
With Zephyr Seat, airlines could provide double-decker seating in a 2-4-2 configuration which, O'Neill says, would allow the majority of global airlines to maintain the same seating density as offered by their existing premium economy cabins.
O'Neill was inspired by a sleepless flight between New York to Singapore a few years ago, on board what was then the world's longest commercial flight.
Seated in premium economy,O'Neill realized halfway through the super long-haul journey that he wasn't going to get any shut eye.
"I'm on probably the best rated airline in the world, and I'm getting wonderful service and the food is edible, but I can't sleep," he recalls. "This is really uncomfortable. Why is it so difficult to find an affordable way to lie flat on a flight that's 19 hours?"
Real estate on an airplane is expensive -- and airlines usually don't want to sacrifice space.
But O'Neill found himself remembering a long-distance bus journey he'd made on a trip through Argentina. The bus utilized bunk beds, and he'd slept far better than on his ostensibly more luxurious air journey to Singapore. It occurred to him that maybe that was the solution.
This was two years ago, and O'Neill says his idea's since graduated from a back of a napkin drawing he dreamed up with his design partner, to a life-size mockup, which he says proves its feasibility.
Double decker seating
Zephyr Seat (1)
The Zephyr Seat offers a double decker airplane interior concept.
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Zephyr's double-decker concept utilizes the space that exists between a standard seat and an overhead bin.
"We basically retrofitted a whole other seat on top of another," explains O'Neill. "So it's essentially two levels, it's not as tall off the ground as people might imagine, it's only four and a half feet off the ground from the entry point to the lower seat to the upper seat."
The result, O'Neill says, is more passenger leg room without the airline being forced to sacrifice space or reduce passenger headcount.
The idea's still in its infancy, although O'Neill says he's identified an engineering partner -- and he's been in conversation with four major airlines, including US carrier Delta, although there are no firm commitments right now.
He presented the idea to airline executives at the 2019 Airline Interiors Expo at Hamburg, Germany -- and said got some valuable feedback on how to make the seat a feasible option for the mid-range aviation market.
The next stage would be passing the product through the required safety tests, which could be a three-year process.
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Of course, a question mark currently hangs over aviation's future, with no one quite knowing what air travel is going to look like over the next few months, let alone years.
There will likely be a greater demand for on board social distancing, from both passengers and airlines -- recent flights have proven that current inflight set ups make this tricky.
O'Neill reckons that the new aviation landscape fits with his vision for Zephyr Seat.
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Designer Jeff O'Neill thinks the seat will allow travelers in Premium Economy to sleep better.
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The increased privacy the seat would offer, he says, could reassure travelers demanding on board social distancing. That said, the concept, like other ideas in the pipeline, doesn't totally solve the issue of being in close proximity on aircraft and the potential Covid risk.
O'Neill also points towards a future where there could likely be fewer scheduled flights and those that are operating could be busier and more expensive -- something we're already seeing happen.
"The price for a business class or first class seat is going to be out of range for probably about 85% of all travelers, which means a more affordable option might become a reality or a consideration for a lot of those people," he says.

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Re: Impact of coronavirus on aviation industry.

#367 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:16 pm

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Re: Impact of coronavirus on aviation industry.

#369 Post by Woody » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:20 am

FSW is now offering VR to certain sections of the company, apparently at just above the Government minimum plus 3 months pay which is taxable, rumour has it that pilots are better off with compulsory redundancy for tax reasons :-o
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#370 Post by Ibbie » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:23 am

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-24/tho ... ronavirus/

Boris and Patel still haven't woken up and smelled the coffee. Blanket quarantine was a very bad and illegal idea.

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#371 Post by Woody » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:11 pm

Wonder how many people the Border Force have followed up on?
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#372 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:14 pm

None.

They're treating the stupid scheme with the same disdain that they did with the 'honesty box' scheme when they went on strike.

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#373 Post by Alisoncc » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:58 pm

Qantas to cut 6000 jobs, 15,000 stay stood down.
Qantas will cut at least 6,000 jobs across all parts of the business as part of its long-term response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Another 15,000 employees will continue to be stood down without pay over the coming months, particularly those associated with its international operations, as the pandemic prevents almost all international travel.

In a release to the Australian Stock Exchange, Qantas said around 100 of its aircraft would be grounded for up to 12 months, with some for longer.
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#374 Post by Woody » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:39 pm

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#375 Post by Woody » Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:07 pm

To absolutely no ones surprise, I’ve been furloughed until the end of July :-w
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#376 Post by OFSO » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:59 pm

Will keep all 20 digits crossed for you....

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#377 Post by Woody » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:31 pm

Thank you, at least pubs will be open :D
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#378 Post by Boac » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:44 am

According to 'The Sun', 350 pilots made redundant at BA with 300 more 'laid off'. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5 ... al-pilots/

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#379 Post by Ibbie » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:50 am

Jet2 are making in excess of 100 pilots redundant.

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#380 Post by Woody » Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:04 am

British Airways Boeing 787-10 G-ZBLA was delivered Charleston – London Heathrow as BA9151 late tonight. The aircraft is in 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration with Suites in Business Class and wears White Union Flag with Crest livery. This is the first Boeing 787-10 for the airline.
Maybe not that short of money, as another A-350-1000 was delivered recently.
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