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Are airline pilots less happy today?

#1 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:01 pm

Plus ca change they say, but maybe the career professional is facing a bleaker present and future than was the case in previous decades? What do the grizzled veterans here think?

Demands for flight crew may be at record levels, but many airline pilots feel stressed and undervalued by management, according to a survey by FlightGlobal.

The findings also reveal concerns over job security and automation, which could make their role redundant. The landmark survey by pilot and aviation recruiter GOOSE Recruitment and aviation publisher FlightGlobal, polled more than 1,300 working pilots worldwide on attitudes to their work.

Despite a perception that a cockpit career is glamorous, well-rewarded and a job for life, the survey reveals that pilots often feel anxious and insecure. Findings include:

• 40 per cent of pilots feel “most stressed” by their dealings with management, with rotations – the number of airport turnarounds they must carry out in a day – the second biggest contributor to stress

• 59 per cent feel their employer does not care about their wellbeing

• More than half of pilots have worried about losing their job in the past two years

• 29 per cent of pilots do not plan to fly to retirement age

• 43 per cent would not recommend a career as a pilot to young people

• 40 per cent of pilots are concerned that autonomous technology will make the role of the pilot redundant

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#2 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:48 pm

I guess it ain't what it used to be ?

Early on in my career as a very junior P.3/Nav. I was involved in a serious car accident. (no, not my fault, I even got some financial compensation, peanuts by today's standards but when one's salary was around £800. p.a. every bit helped ) I was hospitalised for a month, and unable to resume my employment, which then needed extra simulator training time of course, for almost four months, and early on in that time we, my passenger was also a badly injured fellow pilot, were visited by what would now be called the Human Resources Manager himself, and assured that our job was secure, that we would continue to be paid, and that "they" had persuaded the NHS to pay the cost of sending us to the RAF Rehabilitation Unit for wounded aircrew, (Headley Court ? ) as it was in everyone's interest to get us flying again.

Would that happen today ?

In today's climate the barstewards have now even denied me long promised rebate travel for life. What's their case, every pound I might spend helps put bums on seats, and only when available anyway ?

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#3 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:49 am

From a high hours veteran who wants to be anonymous..
Once a bloke gets 5 years experience and the novelty has worn off, they’re as pissed off and depressed as everyone else.

• 40 per cent of pilots feel “most stressed” by their dealings with management, with rotations – the number of airport turnarounds they must carry out in a day – the second biggest contributor to stress

- with me it was always fighting to get consecutive days off to go home. Admittedly EY was a non-commuting outfit. Repeated Venus night flights didn’t help even though I’d asked to please mix up my roster to other dumps.

• 59 per cent feel their employer does not care about their wellbeing

- For expats yes, esp in ASEAN regions. My prev outfit wasn’t too bad in this as long as one sucked Management dick from time to time, along with timely arse-kissing at least once a month.

• More than half of pilots have worried about losing their job in the past two years

- This has been ongoing for yonks Gob and nothing new.

• 29 per cent of pilots do not plan to fly to retirement age

- I can’t speak for others. Almost all those I knew who retired at 65 did so only for the money. In my case I’d simply had a gutful of the damn industry.

• 43 per cent would not recommend a career as a pilot to young people

- You can well and truly include ME in that 43%. I’ve talked Andrew out of airline flying but not CPL GA flying should he wish to do it.

• 40 per cent of pilots are concerned that autonomous technology will make the role of the pilot redundant

- All the F/Os I flew with felt that way. However I knew I’d never see it happen to me in my lifetime.
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#4 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:56 am

Ladies and Gents.. ain't this as much as you want to fly...

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#5 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:05 am




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#6 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:06 am

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#7 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:10 am

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#8 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:42 am

I have upset the high hours Captain. Good bloke that he is!

Damn it...
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#9 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:56 am

FFS

I know the SID...

**** useless South American *****...
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#10 Post by Ex-Ascot » Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:12 am

Do not know about today but 20 years ago I lasted four years. Highest paid ***** job in the world.

The 10 point master plan to get out.

1. Don't have children, or foster them out - critical
2. Get rid of your expensive wife and obtain a more economical one preferably younger and much thinner.
3. Sell your big expensive house.
4. Invest the dosh.
5. Move to a country which has a lower cost of living.
6. Ensure that country is somewhere you would go on holiday to.
7. Buy a small house.
8. Maintain your pension plans.
9. Set up a little business to keep busy and get enough income to cover your bar bill.
10. After a while buy another place in an all year around warm climate to spend most of your time just relaxing.
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#11 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:16 pm

'Yes, Madam, I am drunk, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly.' Sir Winston Churchill.

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