UK Aviation in a "Death Spiral"?

[TheGreenGoblin]

I assume they mean a spiral dive....

UK aviation is in “a death spiral” and in need of immediate government support to save jobs, the British Airline Pilots’ Association (Balpa) has warned.

Brian Strutton, general secretary of the pilots’ union, has written to the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, to demand a moratorium on job losses in aviation.

Since the coronavirus pandemic took hold, passenger aviation to, from and within the UK has dropped by around 95 per cent.

British Airways last week revealed plans to make 12,000 of its 32,000 staff redundant, including around 30 per cent of its pilots. BA has warned it may close its base at London Gatwick.

Further job losses are expected to be announced by other UK airlines this week, in addition to pay cuts for pilots of up to 70 per cent, according to Balpa.

The union has accused airlines of “deliberate exploitation of the situation”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 98766.html

Of course the current crisis has also decimated the minnows, for example those UK training organisations that rely on foreign students to fill their many EASA approved courses covering ATPL's etc. Nor does this cover UK GA, maintenance oufits etc. etc. etc.

UK Aviation in all its forms is in a bad way.

[Capetonian]

Not just UK aviation.

[Pinky the pilot]

Too true Capetonian.

GA in Australia has been referred to as being (Scientific name)'Cactus fuktum rootai'

Mostly brought about by the body supposedly administering it.

[barkingmad]

“EASA approved courses...” soon to be UK CAA approved courses? But as any fule nose, CAA stands for Chaps Against Aviation, something always acknowledged long before those dastardly furriners got their hands on our prevention organisation.

[TheGreenGoblin]

“EASA approved courses...” soon to be UK CAA approved courses? But as any fule nose, CAA stands for Chaps Against Aviation, something always acknowledged long before those dastardly furriners got their hands on our prevention organisation.

Exactly, and no (or very few) international students will be in the slightest bit interested in the CAA ratings so their business will go elsewhere in Europe when the business comes back...

[Rwy in Sight]

“EASA approved courses...” soon to be UK CAA approved courses? But as any fule nose, CAA stands for Chaps Against Aviation, something always acknowledged long before those dastardly furriners got their hands on our prevention organisation.

Exactly, and no (or very few) international students will be in the slightest bit interested in the CAA ratings so their business will go elsewhere in Europe when the business comes back...

Why so: the uk schools can continue offering EASA courses but they might be disadvantages because of the weather

[TheGreenGoblin]

“EASA approved courses...” soon to be UK CAA approved courses? But as any fule nose, CAA stands for Chaps Against Aviation, something always acknowledged long before those dastardly furriners got their hands on our prevention organisation.

Exactly, and no (or very few) international students will be in the slightest bit interested in the CAA ratings so their business will go elsewhere in Europe when the business comes back...

Why so: the uk schools can continue offering EASA courses but they might be disadvantages because of the weather

The general issues of bureaucracy, and not least the cost and general inefficiency of the UK CAA, plus the difficulty in getting visas, plus the weather were beginning to make the UK far less attractive to sponsored students anyway, especially those from the far East where the aviation industry was booming until recently. Why would a EU student choose to come to Britain to get EASA qualified in the midst of the uncertainty and extra aggravation to be found here?

[compo]

Why would a EU student choose to come to Britain to get EASA qualified in the midst of the uncertainty and extra aggravation to be found here?

Cos they like chicken 'n chips in a basket ... washed down with warm beer

[TheGreenGoblin]

Why would a EU student choose to come to Britain to get EASA qualified in the midst of the uncertainty and extra aggravation to be found here?

Cos they like chicken 'n chips in a basket ... washed down with warm beer

[Rwy in Sight]

Exactly, and no (or very few) international students will be in the slightest bit interested in the CAA ratings so their business will go elsewhere in Europe when the business comes back...

Why so: the uk schools can continue offering EASA courses but they might be disadvantages because of the weather

The general issues of bureaucracy, and not least the cost and general inefficiency of the UK CAA, plus the difficulty in getting visas, plus the weather were beginning to make the UK far less attractive to sponsored students anyway, especially those from the far East where the aviation industry was booming until recently. Why would a EU student choose to come to Britain to get EASA qualified in the midst of the uncertainty and extra aggravation to be found here?

TGG most issues are associated or within the control of UK government and not associated with Brexit. I was told that Croatia rapidly change its law around 2005-2007 in a very short time to accommodate the creation of a major pilot academy

[TheGreenGoblin]

Why so: the uk schools can continue offering EASA courses but they might be disadvantages because of the weather

The general issues of bureaucracy, and not least the cost and general inefficiency of the UK CAA, plus the difficulty in getting visas, plus the weather were beginning to make the UK far less attractive to sponsored students anyway, especially those from the far East where the aviation industry was booming until recently. Why would a EU student choose to come to Britain to get EASA qualified in the midst of the uncertainty and extra aggravation to be found here?

TGG most issues are associated or within the control of UK government and not associated with Brexit. I was told that Croatia rapidly change its law around 2005-2007 in a very short time to accommodate the creation of a major pilot academy

And sadly the UK government and the UK CAA are palpably not ready for Brexit and the effect it will have on the already tottering aviation industry here in the UK.