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#1 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:48 pm

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Britten-Norman has acquired all nine of the turboprop Islanders it delivered to the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) in the 2000s, and plans to refurbish and sell them on to civil operators.

The BN2T-4S variants, powered by twin Rolls-Royce M250-B17Fs, served in a surveillance role in the UK and several overseas missions from 2004, under the Defender 4000 designation.

The BN2T-4S has an extended fuselage compared with the standard Islander, giving it an extra 1m (3.3ft) of cabin length. A larger wing – wingspan is 16.2m (53ft) compared with the standard Islander’s 14.9m – accommodates more fuel, giving it a visual flight rules range of over 1,000nm (1,860km).

The Hampshire-based manufacturer says the aircraft can be equipped for tasks such as medevac, search and rescue, aerial survey and policing operations.

It adds that the MoD aircraft were delivered new and have been maintained by Britten-Norman. Most have flown less than 10% of a typical operational life of 40,000h, says the company.

Although Britten-Norman will market the aircraft, they will also be offered under government-to-government agreements through the MoD’s Defence Equipment Sales Authority (DESA).

Britten-Norman chief executive William Hynett says the BN2T-4S “brings a different offering to our customers”, retaining the Islander’s short take-off and landing capabilities with “a larger cabin for increased passenger comfort”.

He adds that “the opportunity to work with DESA to derive mutual benefit in any sales is an added bonus”.

https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospace/ ... 36.article
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#2 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:04 pm

What type are they replacing it with to fulfill the spy-snooping role?

DA-62?

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#3 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:50 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:04 pm
What type are they replacing it with to fulfill the spy-snooping role?

DA-62?
The aircraft were originally used in NI in a surveillance role. I believe they are being replaced (in the surveiilance role) by the Shadow R1 (Beech 300) aircraft operated by 14 Squadron from RAF Waddington.

https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/shadow-r1/
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The Shadow’s electro-optical and electronic capabilities complement those of the Sentinel R.Mk 1, its data combining with that gathered by Sentinel and other platforms to help analysts prepare comprehensive intelligence product. Satellite communications links enable information download during a mission and the aircraft is also fitted with a comprehensive defensive aids suite.
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#4 Post by 1DC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:57 pm

Better reserve one for exascot

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#5 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:44 pm

I'll take one plus a spare.

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#6 Post by Pinky the pilot » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:14 am

Do the Turbine Bongo Vans send one just as deaf as the Piston Engined varieties? :-\

Please speak up a bit as I am oh-so-slightly hearing impaired!

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#7 Post by bob2s » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:56 pm

Don't do that Pinky,they have the same RR B 17 engines as the Nomads,had enough of those prop gearbox chip lights when I worked for Bikkie.

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#8 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:31 pm

Pinky the pilot wrote:
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Do the Turbine Bongo Vans send one just as deaf as the Piston Engined varieties? :-\

Please speak up a bit as I am oh-so-slightly hearing impaired!


Wadda ya say?

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Whaadiya say?

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#9 Post by Alisoncc » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:39 am

Pinky the pilot wrote:
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ALISON: YOU WANT TO GO HALVES IN ONE??? :D
No. Want one of my own. Must have a proper engine though. Not one of those whirry things. Have heard that the whirry ones are a bugger to synchronise.
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#10 Post by Pinky the pilot » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:42 am

Want one of my own. Must have a proper engine though. Not one of those whirry things. Have heard that the whirry ones are a bugger to synchronise.
A 'proper engine?' :-\

According to an article I have which may (not) have been published in a certain prestigious Aviation Journal, it refers to the Islander with Lycoming Piston engines.....

"...One of the outstanding features of Islander technology has always been the ability to take an engine which, when mounted in any other airframe known to the free world produces a low vibration, quiet harmonious ride and cause it to continually shake and batter the airframe, desynch with the accompanying engine and create a din; something as one might imagine could be made by 50 skeletons fornicating in an aluminium dustbin...." =)) =))
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#11 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:11 pm

If you think that's bad, you need to try sitting in the back row of a Trislander from Sumburgh to Embra!

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#12 Post by Pinky the pilot » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:22 am

I have the grand total of 3.0 hrs ICUS in a Trilander!

Was supposed to get endorsed on it but Douglas Airways went bagarap before it happened.
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#13 Post by prospector » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:15 am

I did a couple of hundred hours in Trislanders across Cook Strait. They were much quieter for the driver, further ahead of the prop arc. Never rode in the back, but can imagine under the centre engine it would be quite noisy. They were very good for the job they were designed for, each seat row having it's own door, very quick turnarounds when you had regular pax who knew the routine. The wing loading a lot higher than the Islander, handled the severe turbulence that could be encountered across Cook Strait much better than the Islander in the fleet. Had some interesting rides giving type ratings to aspiring drivers, pull the centre engine on T/O, no assymetric thrust, but obviously something wrong. And a good set of paying seats for a single pilot operation.

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#14 Post by 4mastacker » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:56 pm

The Islanders are not the only bits of kit that are up for sale.

For sale - carefully driven by a little old lady on Sundays to go to church.
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#15 Post by ian16th » Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:17 pm

4mastacker wrote:
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The Islanders are not the only bits of kit that are up for sale.

For sale - carefully driven by a little old lady on Sundays to go to church.
HMS Scimitar could be fun!
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#16 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:32 pm

4mastacker wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:56 pm
The Islanders are not the only bits of kit that are up for sale.

For sale - carefully driven by a little old lady on Sundays to go to church.
I'll take one of each and maybe several each of the guns.
The fast patrol boat would be good as a live-aboard ski boat.

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#17 Post by Boac » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:17 pm

Maybe those here with Islander quals and time should bid? I still have my ear plugs - WHAT?

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#18 Post by Alisoncc » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pm

Boac wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:17 pm
Maybe those here with Islander quals and time should bid? I still have my ear plugs - WHAT?
Probably time expired now. Plus minus 45 years.
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#19 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:17 pm

prospector wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:15 am
I did a couple of hundred hours in Trislanders across Cook Strait. They were much quieter for the driver, further ahead of the prop arc. Never rode in the back, but can imagine under the centre engine it would be quite noisy. They were very good for the job they were designed for, each seat row having it's own door.
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#20 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:25 pm

prospector wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:15 am
Had some interesting rides giving type ratings to aspiring drivers, pull the centre engine on T/O, no assymetric thrust, but obviously something wrong.
Dead foot; dead engine. WTHF?


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