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United Pilot over the limit in Paris

#1 Post by llondel » Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:43 pm

https://www.thedailybeast.com/drunk-uni ... g-hundreds
A 63-year-old captain for United Airlines was arrested after showing up drunk for a flight from Paris to Washington, D.C. on Sunday, One Mile at a Time reported. Airport officials said they noticed the man was “showing signs of obvious drunkenness” as “he was staggering slightly, his eyes were glassy, and his mouth pasty.” His blood alcohol level was then measured at nearly 0.06, three times the legal pilot limit of 0.02, and the flight was canceled, according to the report. The captain claimed he had only had two glasses of wine the night prior, but following his arrest, a judge called out his version of the story. “There could have been a plane crash, you put 267 passengers at risk,” the judge said at a court hearing. He now faces a six-month suspended sentence, a roughly $5,000 fine, and a one-year suspension of his pilot’s license in the European union.

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#2 Post by tango15 » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:38 pm

What is it with the US legacy carriers and their flight deck crews? It's only a couple of weeks since a pilot (capt?) was done at Edinburgh, and there have been others in the past few years at various other UK airports. Presumably at other European bases, too. I know this was a thing at BA some years ago, but after some publicity and a TV documentary, it seemed to stop.

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Re: United Pilot over the limit in Paris

#3 Post by OneHungLow » Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:03 pm

tango15 wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:38 pm
What is it with the US legacy carriers and their flight deck crews? It's only a couple of weeks since a pilot (capt?) was done at Edinburgh, and there have been others in the past few years at various other UK airports. Presumably at other European bases, too. I know this was a thing at BA some years ago, but after some publicity and a TV documentary, it seemed to stop.
Maybe because flying long haul (and so much worse in other arenas), even for a major carrier, away from your family, in the modern world, in an environment where you are treated as an entry in an accountant's Excel spreadsheet, without the sense of worth that once became a Captain (or any of the crew for that matter) of yore, just means that you become tired, stressed, and ultimately worn out and, possibly, physically, or even mentally ill?

It is no wonder that people burn out, seek solace in other reckless, unhealthy and ultimately destructive releases.
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Re: United Pilot over the limit in Paris

#4 Post by PHXPhlyer » Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:24 pm

This is probably the most egregious of them all. :-o

Japan Airlines Pilot Caught Nearly 10x Over Legal Alcohol Limit

Ben Schlappig
Published: November 2, 2018
Updated: June 17, 2023

https://onemileatatime.com/japan-airlines-pilot-drunk/

This is pretty nuts. It’s being reported that on Sunday, October 28, 2018, a Japan Airlines first officer was caught trying to board a plane nearly 10x over the legal alcohol limit for pilots. He was supposed to operate JL44 from London Heathrow to Tokyo Haneda, which ended up being delayed by a bit over an hour.

The 42 year old was found to have 189mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood in his system. The legal limit for pilots is 20mg, which is much lower than what it is for drivers. As a point of comparison, in England the limit for drivers is 80mg per 100ml of blood, and it’s similar in most of the US.

So he was significantly more than twice over the legal drinking limit for drivers, which is pretty insane.

The pilot appeared in court yesterday, claiming that this was due to serious drinking the previous night at his hotel bar and room. I’d like to point out this flight was scheduled to depart at 7PM, so to suggest he had that much alcohol in his system from drinking the following evening is highly, highly unlikely (or even more alarming, since he was likely near death if he still had that much in his system so many hours later).

The pilot only got discovered by the hotel bus driver, who smelled alcohol on his breath. We hear of drunk pilots trying to board flights fairly often (obviously a tiny percentage of the overall pilots out there, but still…).

Obviously it’s incredibly disturbing that anyone would be so irresponsible with other peoples’ lives in their hands. But possibly what I find even more disturbing is that it’s almost never the other pilots who are reporting those who are drunk.

Are you really going to tell me that the other pilots didn’t notice how drunk he was? It’s so irresponsible that they wouldn’t report their colleague. It also makes me wonder how many flights end up actually being operated by drunk pilots, given that apparently many pilots can’t be relied on to report their colleagues.

Japan Airlines has issued a statement pledging to “implement immediate actions to prevent any future occurrence,” and added that “safety remains [their] utmost priority.”


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Re: United Pilot over the limit in Paris

#5 Post by OneHungLow » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:11 pm

PHXPhlyer wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:24 pm
This is probably the most egregious of them all. :-o

Japan Airlines Pilot Caught Nearly 10x Over Legal Alcohol Limit

You must ask why some men flew for the cartels? Why some died from laughing? Why some were eaten by cannibals in Africa, and why some were so bored that they **** their careers up paying the mortgage.

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Re: United Pilot over the limit in Paris

#6 Post by boing » Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:11 pm

I would be interested to know if divorce was a factor here. In America the "domestic" courts are now so supportive of the wife that they can actually put a man out onto the streets while setting his ex-wife up work-free for the rest the of her life
Ten divorced men commit suicide each day — a suicide rate at least three times higher than that of divorced women. Divorced men drink and smoke more often, they engage in riskier sex, and they’re more likely to avoid doctor visits and die of preventable and treatable diseases. Divorce effects on men’s psychological and physical health can be summed up in a word: “bad.” If the man in question is a father, a better word would be “horrible.”
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