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Easyjet U23411 30/9

#1 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:31 pm

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... source=nba

So, at 29000ft over The Wash, 26 minutes after take off from LPL, due to a bird strike the flight has to divert to MAN.
“We’re very sorry that your flight has now been diverted. This is due to a bird strike on your aircraft."

“The disruption to your flight is outside of our control and is considered to be an extraordinary circumstance. Your crew will keep you up to date.”
So possibly no delay compensation payable as this high altitude bird strike is of course beyond Easyjet's control.......certainly an extraordinary incident.

Edit: Landed MAN at 0723Z. Having sorted out the bird strike mess the same aircraft was airborne from MAN for Antalya at 1051z. :-?
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Re: Easyjet U23411 30/9

#2 Post by tango15 » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:04 pm

CharlieOneSix wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:31 pm
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... source=nba

So, at 29000ft over The Wash, 26 minutes after take off from LPL, due to a bird strike the flight has to divert to MAN.
“We’re very sorry that your flight has now been diverted. This is due to a bird strike on your aircraft."

“The disruption to your flight is outside of our control and is considered to be an extraordinary circumstance. Your crew will keep you up to date.”
So possibly no delay compensation payable as this high altitude bird strike is of course beyond Easyjet's control.......certainly an extraordinary incident.

Edit: Landed MAN at 0723Z. Having sorted out the bird strike mess the same aircraft was airborne from MAN for Antalya at 1051z. :-?
I am sure we both (and probably others) think that is a very short time for a turnaround after a bird strike. At FL290, you imagine that this would be a bird of some size - goose maybe - so it's not just a case of an engine wash, and off you go. Are U2 indulging in a little mendacity there? And why divert to MAN? They have engineers at LPL.

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#3 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:18 pm

And why divert to MAN?
Long time since I worked FTLs and they have changed significantly anyway since, but it may have required a crew change for duty hours with a crew available at MAN? Early start, 3 sectors?

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#4 Post by talmacapt » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:14 pm

The suggestions are, perhaps, a little unkind.

I have had a large bird strike the windscreen of the aircraft and subsequent inspection revealed no evidence of engine ingestion or structural damage to windscreen.

The deposit of blood,guts and feathers totally obscured forward visibilty from my windscreen ad P2 landed the aircraft.

As it happened the flight was to main base.

Maybe a precautionary landing in MAN was, perhaps, the correct option.

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#5 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:27 pm

The suggestions are, perhaps, a little unkind.
I haven't seen any such 'suggestions' - are some saying it should have just carried on? I certainly would not have.

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#6 Post by tango15 » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:38 pm

Definitely a 'return to base' situation. I am just surprised that they rectified the problem so quickly. Yes, fair comment re the FTLs. Antalya is a bit of a stretch at the best of times.
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#7 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:44 pm

I am just surprised that they rectified the problem so quickly.
Without details from the crew no-one can sensibly comment, but it could just have been a dented airframe, and if no guts around the engines it should be fit to go. If it was a crew change from standby the delay would probably be about right.

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#8 Post by unifoxos » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:04 pm

Wouldn't Luton have been nearer for them - I thought they had a base there?
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#9 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:18 pm

So a birdstrike at FL290 is possible and my doubt is unfounded. As a mainly below 5000ft former aviator my knowledge is increased! I had this vision of a large bird on oxygen.
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#10 Post by tango15 » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:40 pm

So now the evidence seems to point to the fact that the strike was not on an engine, just the fuselage, but most of the feathered aviators seem to go into the engines. I think that geese begin to move around at this time of the year, so it may well have been taking too close a gander at one of Airbus's best.

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#11 Post by Karearea » Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:14 pm

CharlieOneSix wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:18 pm
So a birdstrike at FL290 is possible and my doubt is unfounded. As a mainly below 5000ft former aviator my knowledge is increased! I had this vision of a large bird on oxygen.
I wondered about that too.

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#12 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:59 pm

Karearea wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:14 pm
......Wikipedia: list of birds by flight height
Thanks for that Karearea - very informative!
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#13 Post by OneHungLow » Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:14 am

I see that the Bar-tailed Godwit makes it up to 6,000 metres (20,000 feet)[. What with its long migration flight, it is clearly an extraordinary bird, that until today, I had been totally ignorant of!
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#14 Post by OneHungLow » Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:16 am

tango15 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:40 pm
So now the evidence seems to point to the fact that the strike was not on an engine, just the fuselage, but most of the feathered aviators seem to go into the engines. I think that geese begin to move around at this time of the year, so it may well have been taking too close a gander at one of Airbus's best.
Spotted the geese in V formation yesterday... winter is definitely on its way.
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#15 Post by tango15 » Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:50 pm

OneHungLow wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:16 am
tango15 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:40 pm
So now the evidence seems to point to the fact that the strike was not on an engine, just the fuselage, but most of the feathered aviators seem to go into the engines. I think that geese begin to move around at this time of the year, so it may well have been taking too close a gander at one of Airbus's best.
Spotted the geese in V formation yesterday... winter is definitely on its way.
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