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Re: Blue Origin

#21 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:06 pm

Was the capsule designed to look like the boss's bonce?

Or a knob.

Or was a thirteen year old spacecraft designer just taking the piss generally?

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#22 Post by Boac » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:32 pm

That was brilliant. Congratulations to all. Wally made it eventually!

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#23 Post by admin » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:35 pm

What about 14 days in hotel quarantine? ^:)^

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#24 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:59 pm

They made it look easy. That, IMO, is an indicator of true expertise. :YMAPPLAUSE:

Sure, theirs is a technology which cannot be expanded or extended to match the truly stupendous achievement more than sixty years ago of putting Gagarin into actual orbit, but they achieved their little accomplishment in good style by imitating the first fraction of the climbout that would have been needed to get into proppa orbital "spaceflight". The did it well.

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#25 Post by Rwy in Sight » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:29 pm

Obviously, I am wondering how fast the second fight of each project is organized. And then the third and then the fourth...

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#26 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:55 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:59 pm
They made it look easy. That, IMO, is an indicator of true expertise. :YMAPPLAUSE:

Sure, theirs is a technology which cannot be expanded or extended to match the truly stupendous achievement more than sixty years ago of putting Gagarin into actual orbit, but they achieved their little accomplishment in good style by imitating the first fraction of the climbout that would have been needed to get into proppa orbital "spaceflight". The did it well.
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And the coverage on the web wasn't like the Virgin cringemaking farrago!
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#27 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:37 pm

CNN seems to have far more coverage of Blue Origin's flight than that of Virgin Galactic.
Props to Bezos for gifting awards to Van Jones and Jose Andres.
Of course $100,000,000 is a rounding error to him, but still its a start.

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#28 Post by llondel » Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:19 pm

PHXPhlyer wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:37 pm
CNN seems to have far more coverage of Blue Origin's flight than that of Virgin Galactic.
The cynic might note that this is probably because Bezos is American and Branson is not.

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#29 Post by Karearea » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:05 pm

Is this what they call "Conspicuous Consumption"? :-?
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#30 Post by G-CPTN » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:14 pm

Bezos thanks the Amazon punters for paying for his flight.

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#31 Post by Boac » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:56 am

Yes that is what we call 'clever' in this country.

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#32 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:42 pm

llondel wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:19 pm
PHXPhlyer wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:37 pm
CNN seems to have far more coverage of Blue Origin's flight than that of Virgin Galactic.
The cynic might note that this is probably because Bezos is American and Branson is not.
New Yorkers seemed entirely nonplussed by, or even totally disinterested in, the whole phallic Bezos event...
New Yorkers ignore Jeff Bezos’ rocket launch on Times Square screen
As Jeff Bezos blasted into space on Blue Origin’s inaugural crewed flight on Tuesday, a livestream of his pioneering journey was broadcast on a gigantic billboard on New York City’s Times Square. Unfortunately for the billionaire, few New Yorkers appeared to care.

A few people were seen gathered to watch Bezos’ 11-minute flight, but footage shows most people strolling past the screen without paying much attention to it.

While Mr Bezos has suggested the feat could be a major step for space tourism and research, critics have argued that billionaires should spend their money on tackling issues on Earth.
As I discovered in New York when I was working there back in the 90's, if you stopped and gawped, like a tourist, you would be given short shrift by the typical, ever moving, native New York pedestrian (a sin almost as bad as dithering in a NY Deli). Only the quick and the dead, and one has to wonder whether or not the, often zombie like, pedestrians are really more dead than alive after all.


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#33 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:58 pm

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#34 Post by PHXPhlyer » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:40 am

Boo Hoo :-o :(( :))

FAA changes policy on who qualifies for commercial astronaut wings on same day as Blue Origin spaceflight

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(CNN)Even though Jeff Bezos crossed into space on Tuesday, he still may not get his official astronaut wings from the federal government.

On the same day as Blue Origin's first human spaceflight, the Federal Aviation Administration announced a change to its Commercial Astronaut Wings Program for the first time in 17 years. This shift at the dawn of the space tourism era means the US government may not formally recognize that billionaires Jeff Bezos and Sir Richard Branson became astronauts when they blasted into space earlier this month.
Before the FAA issued the new restrictions, Bezos, along with three other crewmates who flew with the Blue Origin founder, would have qualified to receive FAA commercial astronaut wings. That's because the travelers flew to an altitude of at least 50 miles (80.5 kilometers), the US-recognized boundary of space.
That was true until a few days ago.
Effective July 20, the FAA issued one more critical criterion: Commercial launch crew members must also demonstrate "activities during flight that were essential to public safety, or contributed to human space flight safety," an FAA spokesperson said, quoting the new order.

Astronaut wings were first awarded in the early 1960s to the Mercury 7 astronauts Alan B. Shepard, Jr., and Virgil "Gus" Grissom by the US Navy and the US Air Force, respectively. It became a rite of passage for all NASA astronauts, from the Apollo missions to the Space Shuttle progam. The FAA created the Commercial Astronaut Wings Program in 2004 after Virgin Galactic's SpaceShipOne became the first private spacecraft to reach space.
David Mackay and Mike Masucci, the two pilots for Virgin Galactic's SpaceShipTwo flight on July 11, had already received their astronaut wings. So had one of the mission specialists, Beth Moses, on a previous test flight. But the three other mission specialists, including Branson, were first-time fliers and were on board to either evaluate the astronaut experience or conduct suborbital scientific research. Neither activity would explicitly qualify them to receive their wings under the FAA's new order.
The four crew members on board Blue Origin's first crewed flight did even less during their 10-minute-long suborbital flight. The company's CEO, Bob Smith, explained during a prelaunch mission briefing that the New Shepard spacecraft "is an autonomous vehicle. There's really nothing for a crew member to go do."
A spokesperson for the FAA said the shift was made because it "aligns more directly to the FAA's role to protect public safety during commercial space operations." The FAA did not respond to an inquiry about why the change took effect on the same day as the Blue Origin flight.
When asked what the change in policy means for the most recent space tourists, an FAA spokesperson said that, in order to get astronaut wings, a nomination is required.
"There are no nominations currently before the FAA to review," the spokesperson said.
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There is one caveat in the new regulations that may still allow Branson, Bezos and some of their crewmates a chance to become formally recognized by the FAA as astronauts. The new order allows the agency to issue an honorary award to "individuals whose contribution to commercial human space flight merits special recognition." It's up to the sole discretion of FAA's associate administrator for commercial space transportation to determine who qualifies for the "honorary" astronaut wings.
Blue Origin and Virgin Galactic did not immediately respond to CNN's request for comment about whether or not they plan to nominate any of their recent crew members, including Bezos and Branson, for the program.

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Re: Blue Origin

#35 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:51 am

Isn't there something faintly absurd about giving an astronaut "wings"?

What **** use are wings in space? Beneath and within the troposphere: yes. Useful things. Above those levels: **** useless and meaningless clutter.

Very American.

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#36 Post by Boac » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:56 am

They seem to work on Mars?

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#37 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:21 am

I am with the FAA on this one.
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#38 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:21 pm

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Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:56 am
They [wings] seem to work on Mars?
Ah! They be flingwings, not proppa wings like wot we got on our Flying Badge after flying a JP, in the days when men walked on the moon and didn't need wings so to do.

All those guys needed was a Hasselblad and a golf club.

Did they have shoulder patches with crossed wheels in order to drive the moonbuggy?

Did they earn a triple parachute emblem when they survived lower atmosphere re-entry?

Will Boy Scouts of America create a badge for sons of billionaires and their achievements?

There's already a Tesla Roadster on Mars, y'know. **** thing can't find a Supercharger near enough to get to, though. So it's ****.

Solar City is so far away!

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#39 Post by llondel » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:32 pm

This just went by on my Twitter feed. Seems that some of the people on the project are flagging safety concerns.
I would not trust a Blue Origin vehicle going to space.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/blue-origi ... =133949895

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#40 Post by PHXPhlyer » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:19 pm

Capt. Kirk Set to Boldly Go Into Actual Orbit 55 Years After ‘Star Trek’ Debut

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27 Sep 2021
Military.com | By James Barber
This year marks the 55th anniversary of William Shatner’s debut as Cap. James T. Kirk on “Star Trek,” but Shatner himself has been resolutely earthbound until now. That’s about to change.

Now 90 years old, Shatner is scheduled to fly to space on the second flight of the New Shepard spacecraft, the one owned and operated by Amazon titan Jeff Bezos and his Blue Origin aerospace company. The date is set for October 12, 2021.

TMZ broke the news and claims that Shatner and his representatives are negotiating to film the experience for a television special, a show that seems like a no-brainer for one of the dozens of streaming services trying to capture our subscription dollars.

Will space travel be safe for a 90-year-old astronaut? What kind of training is required for a Blue Origin flight? Will the experience be worth the risk for Shatner? Anyone who’s seen 91-year-old Clint Eastwood tottering through his new movie, “Cry Macho,” is going to have more than a few concerns about Shatner.

NASA should’ve invited Shatner and Leonard Nimoy along on a space shuttle flight back in the day. They could’ve at least taken them up in the proof-of-concept Enterprise for one of the test landings. Bezos, 57, is exactly the right age to have grown up on after-school reruns of “Star Trek,” and it’s taken him this long to build the spaceship that Capt. Kirk deserves. At this point, infinite Trekkie points go to Bezos.

Bezos took the first Blue Origin flight in July with his brother Mark, test pilot Wally Funk and Oliver Daemen, a Dutch teenager who was gifted the trip by someone who won an auction to buy the seat.

Of course, there’s a loud contingent who don’t think Bezos’ 66.5-mile altitude should qualify as a space flight, but the Air Force and the Federal Aviation Administration disagree. They say that anything above 50 miles counts as space flight. The Bezos flights still qualify if you want to use the international space organization FAI’s Kármán Line instead, because that one requires a 62-mile altitude to qualify.

Of course, Bezos has taunted fellow billionaire Richard Branson after Branson’s own Virgin Intergalactic flight only exceeded the USAF altitude and not the Kármán Line. Neither Bezos nor Branson has realized that combining their efforts might lead to greater achievements for humanity. And let’s not bring up fellow billionaire space cowboy Elon Musk. There’s no way he’s going to cooperate with the other rich guys.

Maybe Shatner will be able to share some Federation wisdom with Bezos up there in space and convince the entrepreneur that humanity has to band together and make peace so we can work together when the Klingons show up.

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