Amazon considering own cargo airline.

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Amazon considering own cargo airline.

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#2 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:39 pm

Vertical integration is nothing new.

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#3 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:48 am

And if not done correctly can and does lead to trouble.

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#4 Post by 500N » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:32 am

Rwy in Sight wrote:And if not done correctly can and does lead to trouble.


And that is without other competitors trying to fck you up !


UPS, Fedex, et al,long term relationships with airports - landing slots !

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#5 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:51 am

Let alone that you need to make sure the subsidiary daughter company whatever you call it needs be based on solid commercial grounds (and eventually make it a strong competitor earning more contracts) rather just to serve the main group.

Regarding airports you can still work some deals using their commercial policies (and the fact that the established carriers can't stop flying there) but yes there can been trouble

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#6 Post by Capetonian » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:53 am

Some things are better outsourced.
One thing you can say for the French, when civilization falls they have less far to fall than everyone else.

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#7 Post by 500N » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:16 am

Capetonian wrote:Some things are better outsourced.



When it comes to airlines, I tend to agree.

Although I can understand from the articles that Amazon is really peed off at the lack of service / bottle necks.

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#8 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:36 pm

However I see they want to become a shipping company for others. But they they will face bottle necks during holidays as well.

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#9 Post by Boac » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:39 pm

Any more news?

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#10 Post by 11Fan » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:50 pm

Boac,

There's a thread running over here on it.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo ... ticle.html

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#11 Post by MoreAviation » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:49 pm

Well Amazon certainly have the need for a good logistics outfit and that, of course, includes aircraft but why would Amazon expect to be any more efficient than the big players like FedEx, DHL and the like...?

Still it is a cut throat market with wafer thin profit margins and the entry of a player like Amazon might just push those margins down in to negative territory which is exactly what outfits like Amazon do to undermine their competitors before they achieve market share and dominance and then up pop those prices and with their global warehousing and IT technology reach Amazon may just have the nous to crack this market.

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