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Nonpilots To Command RAF?

#1 Post by ian16th » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:03 pm

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Re: Nonpilots To Command RAF?

#2 Post by sidevalve » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:31 pm

The dreaded spectre of "Diversity" rides again..

Surely those who have demonstrated superior performance throughout their training should be considered as potential candidates for the CAS job. By definition, these will come from the ranks of FJ pilots. (what am I saying?!)

I fear we're about to witness another demonstration of the old adage: "If it ain't broken, fix it until it is.."

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#3 Post by Ex-Ascot » Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:17 am

Sure, promote a blanket stacker.
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#4 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:31 am

4ma would agree there. As would my daughter, now retired and son in law😀

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#5 Post by ian16th » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:23 pm

Does the Chief of the Army always come from an infantry/cavalry background?

Has a Sapper, Clerk or Signaler ever got the job?

I assume that psc is a pre-requisite to reach any rank that might be considered for the job. At Staff College are Clerks & Cooks allowed in?
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#6 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:57 pm

Ian one could have asked Seisman had he been around :))

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#7 Post by ian16th » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:38 pm

Thinking abut it; if an Infantry guy can be qualifies to be the Army Chief, maybe the Chief of the Air Staff should be a Rock!

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#8 Post by izod tester » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:03 pm

Kitchener was commissioned into the Royal Engineers. RAF students on the Advanced Staff Course come from all Branches, not just aircrew. I always remember the opening words of a 4* American Cavalry General to one of the first lectures of the course. “There are four things a successful Commander in wartime will worry about. They are: Logistics, logistics, logistics and logistics.”

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#9 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:06 pm

I once read the FEAF war plan during Confrontation. Prominent was the memorandum from SHELL on its ability to deliver aviation fuel on a daily basis. I forget the units but the numbers were very large. I am not sure what would have happened had the Indonesians targeted the refineries.

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#10 Post by ian16th » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:54 pm

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Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:03 pm
Kitchener was commissioned into the Royal Engineers. RAF students on the Advanced Staff Course come from all Branches, not just aircrew. I always remember the opening words of a 4* American Cavalry General to one of the first lectures of the course. “There are four things a successful Commander in wartime will worry about. They are: Logistics, logistics, logistics and logistics.”
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Re: Nonpilots To Command RAF?

#11 Post by barkingmad » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:45 am

An element of this topic is already under discussion on the P-8A thread, a danger of dilution of the conversation?

Unless it becomes a subject of cross-service migration in which case run with it?

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#12 Post by Boac » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:13 am

BM wrote:An element of this topic is already under discussion on the P-8A thread, a danger of dilution of the conversation?
??? That thread is about tactical command of a maritime operation, not this topic! No dilution?

Link to that thread posted here viewtopic.php?f=45&t=5188&hilit=poseidon to save other poor souls having to search back 5 pages to find it!! However, it is raining outside.

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#13 Post by Mrs Ex-Ascot » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:43 pm

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Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:57 pm
Ian one could have asked Seisman had he been around :))
Oh Gawd NOOOOH! Even the idea of am OCAdmin taking charge of ANYTHING makes me have multiple palpitations! :-q

I think that Baldrick would be a better choice! :D
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#14 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:51 pm

Is this open to an OC Admin thread?

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#15 Post by ian16th » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:44 pm

I'm rather surprised that my comment about the prospects of the Chief of the Air Staff being a Rock, hasn't raised an eyebrow.

Was it simply too outrageous?
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#16 Post by 4mastacker » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:09 pm

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Sure, promote a blanket stacker.
Why not?? At Scampton, there was a Supply Sqn tee-shirt with the caption "If flying was difficult, the Suppliers would do it". Unfortunately the OC Supply at the time was related to a jellyfish and the tee-shirt was banned from being worn on station. The same OC Supply also banned another tee-shirt which showed two little red jets held by a Vulcan's slightly modified main undercarriage with the caption "Well, that's breakfast taken care of" following a whinge from people who wore flying coveralls the same colour as the jets.
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