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Plan to transform the Royal Air Force by 2040

#1 Post by ricardian » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:21 pm

Transforming the RAF.
He admits that some of our personnel systems are in need of significant improvement: “We need to move into personnel applications on phones to manage our personal business, we have 90 different allowances where we should have 3, and many more things besides”.
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#2 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:43 pm

Twenty years! They never took that long in the past to f*ck things up.

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#3 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:33 pm

In 20 years time, 'aircraft' will be pilotless and autonomous, operating via AI (like those swarms of drones) therefore there will be no need for 'Admin' or management.

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#4 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:39 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:43 pm
Twenty years! They never took that long in the past to f*ck things up.
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#5 Post by CharlieOneSix » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:41 pm

....the plan to transform the Royal Air Force by 2040.
Only three hours to go... ;))) Well someone had to say it.
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Re: Plan to transform the Royal Air Force by 2040

#6 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:58 pm

Have we got time to go to the cinema?

Will we have more time to stand up for the Chrysanthemum at the end?

Before we all go to the stars, I mean.

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#7 Post by ian16th » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:32 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:58 pm
Have we got time to go to the cinema?

Will we have more time to stand up for the Chrysanthemum at the end?

Before we all go to the stars, I mean.
Are there any Astra cinema's left?
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#8 Post by Boac » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:10 pm

Is Fred still with us?

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#9 Post by CharlieOneSix » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:49 pm

There are 15 ten minute Tom and Jerry episodes on CITV tomorrow (freeview 203, freesat 602) starting at 1330. No doubt Good Old Fred will be there. I think I’ll record them for old times sake....

The real Fred died in 1965.

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#10 Post by ricardian » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:04 pm

CharlieOneSix wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:49 pm
There are 15 ten minute Tom and Jerry episodes on CITV tomorrow (freeview 203, freesat 602) starting at 1330. No doubt Good Old Fred will be there. I think I’ll record them for old times sake....

The real Fred died in 1965.
Tom & Jerry aplenty on Youtube
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#11 Post by Boac » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:30 pm

It just isn't the same wivout old Fred.

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#12 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:49 pm

ian16th wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:32 pm
Are there any Astra cinema's left?
Forgive me, for I am old.

In my day ......

Onward, to the cinema

Or, was it onward to the Nasturtiums? I can't remember.

Or was is the Aspiridistriums?

David Niven was fraffly good, y'know.

Now where was I?

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#13 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:23 am

ricardian wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:21 pm
Transforming the RAF.

Reads like a lot of corporate gobbledygook allied to the kind of "disruptor crap" that invites us to scuba in the Cummings inspired shallow think tank... Yet another bollocky "blue sky scenario!"

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“The conceptual journey is about rebuilding the Air Force ‘brain’. We need to confront questions to inform choice before the answers are needed,” says Air Mshl Turner. The plan is to ensure all of the places where that deep intellectual reflection and thought is conducted are joined together and that we draw on the mass to develop more, which is where the sum will be greater than the parts. He sees the RAF reaching out not only to its own academic base in staff colleges, but also to Fellows in Oxford and other universities, as well as Defence institutes and think tanks such as the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) and International Institute for Defence Studies (IISS).

An understanding needs to be formulated and frequently revised on matters such as the future way that warfare will be fought, the development of new command structures, and the change in what modern deterrent measures will work. “How do we defeat an enemy without shooting; how agile is the force to new threats, particularly to the home base; how do we view our approach to warfare through the information advantage lens; how do we defeat and win in space without effecting the UK’s infrastructure and way of life.” Around 70 big, hard questions have been identified so far, he says.
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#14 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:21 am

“The conceptual journey is about rebuilding the Air Force ‘brain’. We need to confront questions to inform choice before the answers are needed,” says Air Mshl Turner.
OMG! We've had it. What is he waffling about? Methinks we need to start rebuilding a brain of smaller size.

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#15 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:39 am

I think a should be warned where this brain surgery is under taken. We know that squabbling leaders have half a brain removed but that Air Marshals now have a complete brain removal and replacement is extremely serious.

After his speech I bet he was applauded by the baffled.
We need to confront questions to inform choice before the answers are needed,
I think the cousins had the best description.

There are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.’

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#16 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:10 am

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:39 am
I think a should be warned where this brain surgery is under taken. We know that squabbling leaders have half a brain removed but that Air Marshals now have a complete brain removal and replacement is extremely serious.

After his speech I bet he was applauded by the baffled.
We need to confront questions to inform choice before the answers are needed,
I think the cousins had the best description.

There are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.’
At least what Rumsfeld said made sense. What the Air Farcical said was said to ensure his ongoing career within the groupthink required by the new dictator Dominic Cummings!

https://www.forces.net/news/sitrep-what ... priorities

https://dominiccummings.com/tag/ai/

Cummings, pseudo intellectual and Renaissance crank believes that the next war will be fought on the internet using AI alone!

He casts himself as a John Boyd figure without any of the commensurate skillsets! A visionary midst the myopic traditionalists and naysayers fighting against the future.

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#17 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:36 am

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop

Bringing a pseudo-intellectual to a firefight is like bringing the French and their accordions! =))

Perhaps we can bludgeon each other to death with i-Pads!

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#18 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:38 am

TGG, one needs to plan ahead. A friend of mine, having risen from Group Captain Strike (ie Nuclear Weapons) at SHAPE moved smoothly from Nuclear when the Iron Curtain came down to Air Commodore WMD. As things progressed be was promoted to AVM and still at SHAPE.

Approaching 55 he felt too young to retire and was casting around for something else to do as he probably didn't need the money. He managed to get the Defence Notices job, as used to be the D-Notice committee.

They all do it, retire with fat pensions and slide onto Quangos or directorships. Some, like Lord West, set his rig to the left and got a lordship.

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#19 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:48 am

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Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:38 am
TGG, one needs to plan ahead. A friend of mine, having risen from Group Captain Strike (ie Nuclear Weapons) at SHAPE moved smoothly from Nuclear when the Iron Curtain came down to Air Commodore WMD. As things progressed be was promoted to AVM and still at SHAPE.

Approaching 55 he felt too young to retire and was casting around for something else to do as he probably didn't need the money. He managed to get the Defence Notices job, as used to be the D-Notice committee.

They all do it, retire with fat pensions and slide onto Quangos or directorships. Some, like Lord West, set his rig to the left and got a lordship.
There are plans and there are pipe dreams! Where Britain is going in so many areas of policy at the moment smacks of the deeply delusional!

I don't believe in complacency and am not favouring atrophied mono-dimensional thinking but letting ideologues and incompetents set the agenda is going to end in disaster here!

As for the old boys network and the greasy pole, it will always be with us unfortunately.
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#20 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:23 am

What a load of drivel. He has swallowed a MBA manual. Imagine sitting on one of those academic committees.

He goes on about 'CEREBRAL RESTRUCTURING' Then refers to 'STUFF'
For much of my career this has largely led to the replacement of old stuff with slightly newer and invariably more expensive and therefore slightly less stuff than before.
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