This will be interesting! KC130 and F35 ignoring the 6ft rule
Just hope they were wearing their masks.3 engines damaged. F35 pilot ejected and is reported 'OK' and all 8 crew of Herc OK. At least the Marines kept it 'in the family'!
Whoops
Whoops
When I said 'cleared for contact' I meant to take on fuel!
This will be interesting! KC130 and F35 ignoring the 6ft rule Just hope they were wearing their masks.
3 engines damaged. F35 pilot ejected and is reported 'OK' and all 8 crew of Herc OK. At least the Marines kept it 'in the family'!
This will be interesting! KC130 and F35 ignoring the 6ft rule
Just hope they were wearing their masks.3 engines damaged. F35 pilot ejected and is reported 'OK' and all 8 crew of Herc OK. At least the Marines kept it 'in the family'!
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Re: Whoops
Sounds expensive, definitely going to be a no tea and biscuits meetingBoac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:53 amWhoops.jpg
When I said 'cleared for contact' I meant to take on fuel!
This will be interesting! KC130 and F35 ignoring the 6ft rule
3 engines damaged. F35 pilot ejected and is reported 'OK' and all 8 crew of Herc OK. At least the Marines kept it 'in the family'!
When all else fails, read the instructions.
Re: Whoops
I cannot quite understand how one F35 can do that!
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A "Watch this" moment?
Will someone be "invited" to make a contribution towards the cost of the damage. I believe that was a method employed to avoid a more formal entry on someone's service record.
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Re: Whoops
Searching ebay for KC130 propellors as I type..............
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What were the Met conditions, were they IMC?
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Throttle back #1, full power #3 and 4, full left rudder
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Oh no! Someone HAS to have a METAR!
PN - have you looked at the picture?
PN - have you looked at the picture?
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We hope no-one ever lets you near the controls of an aircraft!PN wrote:Throttle back #1, full power #3 and 4, full left rudder
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Re: Whoops
I met Navs who were dangerous with the brilliance control on a Gee indicator!
Cynicism improves with age
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Re: Whoops
The KC-130 didn't make it back to an airfield - he's in a furrowed field. Excellent job!
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Re: Whoops
Indeed - a neat bit of flying - and they even got the fuel leak aimed into a furrow..............
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No SOH BOAC?
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"No SOH BOAC?" Just the to give it away.
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Re: Whoops
LiveATC recording below - mp3 file. The KC130 callsign is Raider 50.
KC130 - F35 mid air collision
There is quite a bit of radar heading direction before the Mayday. The transmission at lower altitudes from the KC130 are not on the tape.
KC130 - F35 mid air collision
There is quite a bit of radar heading direction before the Mayday. The transmission at lower altitudes from the KC130 are not on the tape.
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https://news.usni.org/2020/09/29/marine ... red-safely
Marine F-35B Crashes After Collision With KC-130 Over California; All Aircrew Recovered Safely
By: Sam LaGrone
September 29, 2020 9:34 PM • Updated: September 29, 2020 11:03 PM
A Marine KC-130 crash lands in California Sept. 29, 2020.
A Marine F-35B aircraft has crashed near Naval Air Facility El Centro, Calif., following an air collision with a KC-130J, defense officials confirmed to USNI News.
At approximately 4 p.m. local time, “it was reported that an F-35B made contact with a KC-130J during an air-to-air refueling evolution, resulting in the crash of the F-35B. The pilot of the F-35B ejected successfully and is currently being treated,” read a statement from Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Joseph Butterfield to USNI News.
“The KC-130J is on deck in the vicinity of Thermal Airport. All crew members of the KC-130J have been reported safe.”
The KC-130, often used as an aerial refueler for Marine aviation, made an emergency landing near the Jacqueline Cochran Regional Airport in Therma, Calif., according to photos published by KESQ Channel 3.
In 2018, an F-35B went down outside of Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort in South Carolina. The pilot was recovered safely. In 2019, a Japanese F-35A crashed off the coast of Japan.
An F-35B Lightning II with Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 121 takes off during exercise Red Flag 16-3 at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev., July 20. This is the first time that the fifth generation fighter has participated in the multiservice air-to-air combat training exercise. US Marine Corps photo.
The following is the complete statement from the Marine Corps.
MARINE CORPS AIR STATION YUMA, Ariz. (Sep. 29, 2020) — At approximately 1600 it was reported that an F-35B made contact with a KC-130J during an air-to-air refueling evolution, resulting in the crash of the F-35B. The pilot of the F-35B ejected successfully and is currently being treated.
The KC-130J is on deck in the vicinity of Thermal Airport. All crew members of the KC-130J have been reported safe.
The official cause of the crash is currently under investigation. Updates will be provided as information becomes available.
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Marine F-35B Crashes After Collision With KC-130 Over California; All Aircrew Recovered Safely
By: Sam LaGrone
September 29, 2020 9:34 PM • Updated: September 29, 2020 11:03 PM
A Marine KC-130 crash lands in California Sept. 29, 2020.
A Marine F-35B aircraft has crashed near Naval Air Facility El Centro, Calif., following an air collision with a KC-130J, defense officials confirmed to USNI News.
At approximately 4 p.m. local time, “it was reported that an F-35B made contact with a KC-130J during an air-to-air refueling evolution, resulting in the crash of the F-35B. The pilot of the F-35B ejected successfully and is currently being treated,” read a statement from Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Joseph Butterfield to USNI News.
“The KC-130J is on deck in the vicinity of Thermal Airport. All crew members of the KC-130J have been reported safe.”
The KC-130, often used as an aerial refueler for Marine aviation, made an emergency landing near the Jacqueline Cochran Regional Airport in Therma, Calif., according to photos published by KESQ Channel 3.
In 2018, an F-35B went down outside of Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort in South Carolina. The pilot was recovered safely. In 2019, a Japanese F-35A crashed off the coast of Japan.
An F-35B Lightning II with Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 121 takes off during exercise Red Flag 16-3 at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev., July 20. This is the first time that the fifth generation fighter has participated in the multiservice air-to-air combat training exercise. US Marine Corps photo.
The following is the complete statement from the Marine Corps.
MARINE CORPS AIR STATION YUMA, Ariz. (Sep. 29, 2020) — At approximately 1600 it was reported that an F-35B made contact with a KC-130J during an air-to-air refueling evolution, resulting in the crash of the F-35B. The pilot of the F-35B ejected successfully and is currently being treated.
The KC-130J is on deck in the vicinity of Thermal Airport. All crew members of the KC-130J have been reported safe.
The official cause of the crash is currently under investigation. Updates will be provided as information becomes available.
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So much for the vaunted F-35's "see 360 degrees" (through solid objects e.g. ones own wings) computer integrated day and night vision system. The damage looks like it might have occurred if the F-35 had skittered along above the C-130 at +- 90 degrees to the direction of the tanker's flight path taking out the tips of the propellers!
The C-130 pilot made a good fist of that landing, it must have been pretty busy in that cockpit.
The C-130 pilot made a good fist of that landing, it must have been pretty busy in that cockpit.
Though you remain
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."
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Like chasing a limp of strand of spaghetti with a one toothed/tined fork...
and the $80 $120 million loss in this case...
and the $80 $120 million loss in this case...
Though you remain
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."