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Amazing SU-57 pilot?

#1 Post by FD2 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:31 pm

Putin has released footage of a pilot flying '1,300 mph Su-57' without the cockpit canopy! The ever-gullible UK media picked it up and made it look as though this 'daredevil' man of steel could fly at great speed without the canopy instead, I suspect, of flying it a few knots above the stall. Maybe some ex-'stovies' on the site might tell me if I'm being a little cynical? Kinzhal missile flies at Mach 10? What the hell is it made of? :-\

The plexiglass canopy covering the top and sides of the cockpit prevents the pilot from freezing to death.

It was likely missing as part of a test of emergency procedures should the aircraft get into trouble ahead of ejection.

Analysts say the pilot is wearing a special outfit as protection against the cold.

The ministry did not give details of the altitude, speed or purpose of the flight.

One high-tech Sukhoi Su-57 in December spiralled from a height of five miles to crash near Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

The warplane - also known as T-50-8 - is designed to carry the advanced Kinzhal hypersonic nuclear-capable missile which operates at ten times the speed of sound.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ghter.html

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#2 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:27 am

FD2 wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:31 pm
Putin has released footage of a pilot flying '1,300 mph Su-57' without the cockpit canopy! The ever-gullible UK media picked it up and made it look as though this 'daredevil' man of steel could fly at great speed without the canopy instead, I suspect, of flying it a few knots above the stall. Maybe some ex-'stovies' on the site might tell me if I'm being a little cynical? Kinzhal missile flies at Mach 10? What the hell is it made of? :-\

The plexiglass canopy covering the top and sides of the cockpit prevents the pilot from freezing to death.

It was likely missing as part of a test of emergency procedures should the aircraft get into trouble ahead of ejection.

Analysts say the pilot is wearing a special outfit as protection against the cold.

The ministry did not give details of the altitude, speed or purpose of the flight.

One high-tech Sukhoi Su-57 in December spiralled from a height of five miles to crash near Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

The warplane - also known as T-50-8 - is designed to carry the advanced Kinzhal hypersonic nuclear-capable missile which operates at ten times the speed of sound.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ghter.html
"Pah, that Russian pilot flies like girly boy. Also he is not flying without shirt like our glorious leader Vladimir Putin who regularly flies at Mach 2 with his nipples in the slipstream..." - Ivan Don't BelieveawordIsayski

Some comment on the Khinzal hypersonic missile.

Is the missile a modified Iskander Ballistic Missile?
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#3 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:45 am

Some interesting gen. on hypersonic missiles.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/hyper ... ssiles.htm

Both New Zealand are Australia are involved in cutting edge research into hypersonic flight and the materials that will make that happen.

https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resourc ... c-vehicles

Of course hypersonic flight is not new (albeit at every high altitudes) as demonstrated by the Shuttle operating as a hypersonic vehicle for part of its trajectory when landing. The fact that one crew was lost in this phase of flight due to the ingress of the plasma into the wing shows that this is an area that is still fraught with issues and cannot be underestimated as an impediment to sustained hypersonic maneuvering flight at low altitudes.

https://satelliteobservation.files.word ... hicles.pdf
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#4 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:40 am

Maybe some ex-'stovies' on the site might tell me if I'm being a little cynical?
I am NOT an ex stovie but because "as any fule kno" they are a bunch of complacent, self absorbed, late rising slackers, I will post this before we hear a peep from any one of them! =))
The SR-71 Blackbird was introduced in the 1960’s, and it remains one of the fastest operationally flown aircraft to date. It’s required that the aircrew wear specialized protective suits when operating the aircraft. The pilot of the SR-71 on one particular day in 1966 would be forever indebted to the suit’s incredible design. During a testing mission, pilot Bill Weaver directed the plane some 78,000 feet into the air with Lockheed test flight specialist, Jim Zwayer, in the back seat. At Mach 3.18, the Blackbird experienced an “inlet unstart,” in which the left engine immediately un-started.

Weaver knew it wasn’t good, but also that ejection at that speed and altitude was essentially a death sentence for them both. While trying to take the plane lower and slower, the plane began to disintegrate. Before he knew it, Weaver was outside the aircraft, a full layer of ice on his face mask, but falling toward earth in a controlled state. His partial parachute which was designed to keep a person from tumbling had deployed and soon his main parachute opened as well. His special SR-71 suit worked perfectly and saved his life after his aircraft literally disintegrated around him. Zwayer was killed in the accident after breaking his neck during ejection. However, it was found that his suit also delivered him back to the ground as was designed.
Not many people know what it is like to go through full jet ejection at around 800 miles per hour. However, Capt. Brian Udell, an F-15E fighter pilot from Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho, knows all too well. While completing a routine night training procedure with his co-pilot, Capt. Dennis White, they realized that one monitor was not relaying the correct information as to the whereabouts of the plane. They were suddenly faced with the fact that they were heading straight down towards the Atlantic Ocean at over 700 mph. It was too late to save the plane, so Udell ordered a bail out at 10,000 feet at a speed of around 800 mph.

Although he blacked out punching out of the F-15, he came to while floating towards the ocean under an open parachute. His injuries were severe – broken legs, dislocated elbow, cracked rib, and cuts and bruises covering his entire body. Every blood vessel in his face had been ruptured causing his head to swell up like a basketball. After surviving in the freezing Atlantic Ocean for four hours, he was rescued by the Coast Guard. White unfortunately was killed immediately upon ejection. This made Udell the only survivor of one of the fastest known ejections in history.
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Flying around without a canopy or protection at Mach 2 is likely to be very deleterious to one's health and phizog...
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#5 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:45 am

Used to wind the canopy back on the JP3, stick your hand out and feel the 300 kt boob. Very realistic. Slasher and RiS will disagree but anything more than a handful is a waste.

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#6 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:53 am

Ex-Ascot wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:45 am
Used to wind the canopy back on the JP3, stick your hand out and feel the 300 kt boob. Very realistic. Slasher and RiS will disagree but anything more than a handful is a waste.

Was that off topic?
I was tempted to post a video of what happens to boobs in a 200 km/h slipstream but I won't lest I am accused of destroying ops-normal, again! =))



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#7 Post by Boac » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:13 am

I could have guessed it would be the Daily Wail, FD.

I think most high-performance aircraft are tested without a canopy where the canopy is 'removable'. Certainly Tiffy and Tornado were. In fact, this topic came up recently https://www.airlive.net/why-bae-test-pi ... -500-knots

As TGG says, not only would Putin or Trump have done it, but they would have done it better - Putin on horse-back and the Chump holding an upside-down bible and wearing a MAGA hat.

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#8 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:32 am

Pilot Receiving Air Blast Test

A pilot withstands the effects of a 275 to 350 mile-per-hour slipstream during a test at the Naval Air Material Center of the US Naval Base Station in Philadelphia.

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A helmet and visor plus the protection of a front windshield/screen goes a long way...
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#9 Post by Boac » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:30 am

Damn wind blew his teeth out too. One hell of a blow job.

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#10 Post by FD2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:14 am

Thanks for the info chaps - I'm amazed at the Tornado being flown at 500 kts Boac!

A few years ago someone sent me a link to a naked skydiving clip GG - very funny - there were all sorts of things flapping around in the slipstream!

So Vlad's new Su-57, like many other combat aircraft, is routinely tested for cockpit habitability should the canopy be lost for any reason? It obviously makes sense, after my initial disbelief. Good to know it's not a load of bull and now time to read up on hypersonic flight...

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#11 Post by Boac » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:17 am

"I'm amazed at the Tornado being flown at 500 kts" So were lots of Lightning pilots... :))

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#12 Post by FD2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:22 pm

Ha ha - I can understand the mickey take - it looked a bit cumbersome. Was 500 kts a standard sort of 'Vne no canopy' test?

The F3 guys (from Leuchars I guess) used to have some fun over rural Northumberland where we lived - a much sleeker machine altogether - then the Typhoons arrived. All very entertaining and no cost for a seat in the garden. The day we moved in there was a big exercise involving the RAF and the Army Air Corps but sadly it didn't happen again. :(

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#13 Post by Boac » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:29 pm

Was 500 kts a standard sort of 'Vne no canopy' test?
I don't know, but I can tell you would not have found me there without a canopy deliberately......... :))

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