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Re: Oh dear - red faces as well?

#41 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri May 20, 2022 10:57 am

Here is your choice: https://www.raf.mod.uk/display-teams/re ... /the-team/ Only 8 to choose from.
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Re: Oh dear - red faces as well?

#42 Post by Boac » Sat May 21, 2022 1:24 pm

With just 7 days to the first 'public' display at Le Touquet the seat auction is in full swing. All seats bar 1,6 and 7 are up for grabs it seems. The Display commentator is going to have his work cut out................. =))

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Re: Oh dear - red faces as well?

#43 Post by Boac » Mon May 23, 2022 9:45 am

Colour me (red, white and blue) confused! The Arrows Twatter feed for 21/5 claims this view 'out of the window'.
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A couple of shots from the office window today! 📷 Cpl Ashley Keates."

1,2,3,4........

Nine-ship seems to be going quite well.............. mind you, 4 and 5 are wide :))

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#44 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon May 23, 2022 12:54 pm

I am not going to say, it would be defamation but I have my bets on one of them. I have told Mrs Ex-Ascot who will confirm if I am correct. Beers for everyone in Maun if I am wrong. No, sod it, champagne.
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#45 Post by Boac » Tue May 24, 2022 12:24 pm

I hope you didn't have your money on Red 6 or 7.

PS MOD is still jamming 9 pilots into 7 aircraft.

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#46 Post by Ex-Ascot » Tue May 24, 2022 12:53 pm

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I hope you didn't have your money on Red 6 or 7.

PS MOD is still jamming 9 pilots into 7 aircraft.
No because you said that the synchro pair were still on.

Just had a look on TOP. No guesses there either.
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#47 Post by Boac » Thu May 26, 2022 2:58 pm

They now have PDA as a 7-ship. I can identify the former 2,6,8 and 9 in the latest piccy on Twatter but cannot ident the 3 at the back although I would hazard a guess at 1 being the one completely hidden.
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WARNING: PURE GUESS WORK! - logically if ex-8 and 9 are still there, they will probably now be flying the 4 and 5 slots in the 7-ship, which means, I think, one of them 2 (ex-4 and 5) is the guilty one :))

I expect a shortened display with less synchro work as 6 and 7 will normally fly 8 and 9 slots in the big formation.

All should become clear very soon. First 'public' display Le Touquet on Saturday.

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#48 Post by G-CPTN » Thu May 26, 2022 7:28 pm

Can anyone speculate on the reason for the exclusion? Was the misdemeanour that serious? - or was it simply a case of discipline?

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#49 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri May 27, 2022 5:22 am

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Can anyone speculate on the reason for the exclusion? Was the misdemeanour that serious? - or was it simply a case of discipline?
For them to bugger up the season like this I would suggest something very serious. We may be looking at a courts martial.

No. 5 is on his 3rd season and a Sqn Ldr. No. 4 is on his 1st season and a Flt Lt.

By the way I was wrong so it is Champers on me in Maun.
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#50 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun May 29, 2022 4:40 pm

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RiS, if could get yourself into the officer's mess bar you would probably find out. Don't you know any officers from the base?

By the way glad to see Snoopy is back.
I realised I may have a contact within the base a bit closer than I think. Provided there isn't a solid wall in the flight line between pilot and other staff and I would ask the questions correctly.
Unfortunately my contact is from the other side of the fence in the civil sector of the field and is not familiar with the base events.

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Re: Oh dear - red faces as well?

#51 Post by Boac » Sun May 29, 2022 4:44 pm

It continues to be a mystery. All 9 pilots (well, according to the MOD page that is) displayed with 7 aircraft at Le Touquet yesterday and returned to Scampton today. I'm really surprised the Daily Wail has not managed to get the info.

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#52 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:41 pm

9 people good and true flew today it seems.

Has there ever been a female Arrow? Not that it matters, but given that, at last, women are getting their shot at these things. I am interested to hear.

People like Patty Wagstaff or the Russian lady would, rightly, sneer at me...



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Re: Oh dear - red faces as well?

#53 Post by Boac » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:36 am

Has there ever been a female Arrow?
Yes, Kirsty, but her story is complicated. She did not cope well with the fatalities https://aerobaticteams.net/en/news/i86/ ... -team.html

Finally https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/r ... er-3069293

PS MOD still think there are 9 pilots in the 7-ship team..............gives you a lot of confidence in our military organisation. https://www.raf.mod.uk/display-teams/re ... /the-team/

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#54 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:40 pm

Wasn't there also a question of her being involved with Red 1?
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#55 Post by Boac » Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:49 pm

Link 2?

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#56 Post by Boac » Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:11 am

Finally a peep behind the curtain, from the team FB page:

"Flying with the Red Arrows over London - spot Buckingham Palace below and many other landmarks. This was the spectacular view point of Red 4, Squadron Leader Jon Bond.........."

Considering MOD still tell us he is Red 8, there is obviously some rebellion in the ranks.... =))

My latest 'guess' (E&OE) is Red 4 (Will Cambridge) had had a little too much Greek sherbet, and Red 9 (David Simmonds) had to be dropped in the re-shuffle. Purely by chance, he has just been promoted to S/Leader......... Who knows?

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#57 Post by Ex-Ascot » Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:27 pm

I am with you on that assessment Boac. Next we have to find out what crime he committed. :-o
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#58 Post by Boac » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:35 am

MOD have (almost) caught up!! http://www.raf.mod.uk/display-teams/red-arrows/the-team

All we need now is the low-down and smutty bits...............

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#59 Post by G-CPTN » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:56 am

So, who are the missing pilots?

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