Aircraft drone makes history landing on Royal Navy carrier at sea

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Aircraft drone makes history landing on Royal Navy carrier at sea

#1 Post by CharlieOneSix » Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:59 pm

A pilotless plane has flown on and off a Royal Navy aircraft carrier for the first time.

The W Autonomous Systems (WAS) drone flew from the Lizard Peninsula and on to the deck of HMS Prince of Wales off the Cornish coast, delivered supplies, then flew back in a milestone flight which points the way to the future of naval aviation.

It’s a vital step along the way to operating crewless aircraft safely alongside F-35 Lightning jets and naval Merlin and Wildcat helicopters which are currently the backbone of the Fleet Air Arm.

The goal is to deploy drones with a UK Carrier Strike Group in the future, using them to transfer stores and supplies – such as mail or spare parts – between ships, without the need to launch helicopters.

Drones are cheaper to operate, eliminate any potential risk to aircrew – such as in bad weather – and keep the hi-tech Merlins and Wildcats free for operational sorties, such as hunting hostile submarines or surface vessels which are threats to the carrier strike group.

HMS Prince of Wales has experimented with drone technology before – notably small quadcopters and Banshee targets (small jets which are launched by catapult and parachutes down to land when the mission is complete).

But the trials off the Lizard are in a different league, involving a much larger (ten-metre wingspan), more capable pilotless aircraft.

The Royal Navy joined forces with Southampton-based W Autonomous Systems, a leading-edge British firm which is developing long-range, heavy-lift autonomous drones for defence.

The drones incorporate a ground-breaking autopilot system, eliminating the need to be controlled remotely by trained pilots, and are designed to operate in the most challenging environments.

Its HCMC twin-engine light alloy twin boom aircraft is capable of carrying a payload of 100kg up to 1,000 kilometres (620 miles). Crucially it can land on uneven ground and needs a runway just 150 metres long – a little over half the length of the flight decks on the UK’s Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers – to land or take off.

After extensive preparations ashore by the combined RN and WAS trials team, and attaining endorsements and authorisations from the Civil Aviation Authority, the HCMC drone took off from Predannack, the satellite airfield of RNAS Culdrose, and after a flight of about 20 minutes, touched down safely on the HMS Prince of Wales’ deck.

Once its symbolic payload of naval memorabilia was removed by crew, the aircraft was turned around and it was re-launched back to Predannack.

Captain Richard Hewitt, Commanding Officer HMS Prince of Wales said:

“HMS Prince of Wales is a fifth-generation aircraft carrier and operating autonomous drones like this will become the norm across future Royal Navy Carrier Strike Groups in our 50-year lifespan.

“We are all proud here in HMS Prince of Wales to achieve this – a fantastic milestone for all involved and the first of many firsts on this deployment to shape the future of Royal Naval Carrier Strike innovation as we prepare for our strike group deployment in 2025.”

Lieutenant Ash Loftus, leading the trials for the Royal Navy on board HMS Prince of Wales added:

“Today’s demonstration is the culmination of 18 months of hard work from dozens of people across the Royal Navy and W Autonomous Systems. Carrier aviation is amongst the most difficult aspects of naval warfare and this success is testament to their efforts.”

Stephen Wright, executive chairman and founder of W Autonomous Systems, said: “This landing demonstrates the agility of our autonomous drone. We are hugely proud to deliver this ground-breaking trial for the Royal Navy and showcase the future of aviation.”

Charles Scales, Co-Founder of W Autonomous Systems, added: “Landing on a moving naval carrier was the ultimate test and our autonomous heavy-lift HCMC drone passed with flying colours.” The trials off Cornwall were the first stage of an autumn programme pushing the boundaries of naval aviation for Britain’s biggest warship.

HMS Prince of Wales will be operating off the Eastern Seaboard of the USA until Christmas as she conducts experiments with F-35 Lightning stealth fighters, MV-Osprey tilt-rotors, and the Mojave drone.
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#2 Post by Boac » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:18 pm

I'm sorry, but that was a pitiful effort to do something the USA did far more effectively a while back (including traps and cats), and the USN do not need to 'clear the whole deck' to operate the machine. I actually thought it was going to dive straight into the aft island at one point.

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#3 Post by PHXPhlyer » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:11 pm

No mention of speed but a cockpit with a bubble canopy might work. :-?

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#4 Post by FD2 » Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:58 pm

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Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:18 pm
I'm sorry, but that was a pitiful effort to do something the USA did far more effectively a while back (including traps and cats), and the USN do not need to 'clear the whole deck' to operate the machine. I actually thought it was going to dive straight into the aft island at one point.
Early days yet Boac. Not quite the amount of dosh available compared to the cousins. Did the American machine land on non-cat/trap carriers? Do we know where this one was being controlled from?

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#5 Post by Boac » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:36 am

Did the American machine land on non-cat/trap carriers?
No, but as I believe you are aware, a helo can.
Do we know where this one was being controlled from?
Did you watch the video?

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#6 Post by G-CPTN » Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:29 am

video?


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#7 Post by FD2 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:19 am

Perhaps you are being a little harsh about the first prototype Boac. I can't think of a helicopter that could travel unpiloted over 600 miles but I dare say they will improve this system and iron out any problems like sudden dives at the superstructure, should the Navy think it a worthwhile concept. I don't suppose they've signed any contracts for the drones yet. We all know that to have the sort of capability that Ark and Eagle had latterly and the USN has now - to project and protect the UK's interests world wide without the need for airfields ashore* would have needed cats and traps carriers but the country is stuck with what the Labour government condemned the country to in the 1966 defence review.

That was compounded by whatever the so called 'government' brought about when they decided that these two Woolworths carriers would do the job effectively when the aircraft were too expensive to buy and the ships could only travel relatively slowly due to their inadequate propulsion system. The country should have had two nuclear powered carriers with a proper air group - preferably F18s - and whatever else was affordable and effective. With more escorts the Navy could then do the job it effectively carried out around the world until the 1970s.

Video - what video? I watched the one that G-CPTN kindly supplied and I can't hear anything about who was controlling the machine remotely. If they are controlled between airfield and ship by GPS autopilot and only taken over by humans at each end then so much the better. If they are shot down then no lives are lost. Helicopters are not very good at avoiding missiles, as the Russians have found out.

*Like the overflight of British Honduras by Ark's Buccaneers in 1972, to prevent an invasion by Guatemala for instance.

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#8 Post by CharlieOneSix » Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:49 pm

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Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:18 pm
......... and the USN do not need to 'clear the whole deck' to operate the machine. I actually thought it was going to dive straight into the aft island at one point.
Rather a facetious comment. You would have preferred that they left a few £88m F-35Bs and some £40m Merlins on deck whilst they carried out the first attempt to land an RN drone on an RN carrier? The USN have been doing this for 10 years so we have a bit of catching up to do in terms of experience.
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#9 Post by Boac » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:53 pm

I am trying to convey the sense of irrelevance in this over-hyped 60nm UAV 'hop'. I suspect nothing will come of it. I will be delighted to be proved wrong.
You would have preferred that they left a few £88m F-35Bs and some £40m Merlins on deck whilst they carried out the first attempt to land an RN drone on an RN carrier?
Erm - which F35s and Merlins? I think HMS PoW is 'empty' in case she needs tugging back!

Don't forget she is one of the biggest carriers the RAF has ever had [quote Michael Green).

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#10 Post by CharlieOneSix » Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:16 pm

Apologies for posting on an aviation forum an aviation subject that is deemed by you to be irrelevant. I shall try harder.
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#11 Post by Boac » Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:25 pm

Don't apologise - I think your post was highly relevant to the forum. I'm sure we all enjoyed reading about it.

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#12 Post by FD2 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:18 pm

PoW is on sea trials, as anyone familiar with these matters would know or might guess. The ship is working up after having extensive repairs in Rosyth and quite obviously doesn't have her rather pathetic air group embarked. Taking 'dives' at the aft island might well have written off a few of the F35s the country has been able to afford after the pathetic decisions were made about her building - if they were embarked.

With luck she will come right now and at least be able to travel around without breaking down again and the cousins might kindly allow some of their F35s to increase the size of the air group - pathetic eh? - and subject to the usual snide comments. The RN will do what it has done in the past and make the best of the poor equipment it has been provided with. 1982 was a good example of that and then even the Harriers were flogged off for shirt buttons!

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#13 Post by FD2 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:21 pm

Boac wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:25 pm
Don't apologise - I think your post was highly relevant to the forum. I'm sure we all enjoyed reading about it.
Let's hope there are some on here who enjoyed it more than your sarcastic comment shows you didn't!

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#14 Post by FD2 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:36 pm

Sea trials also involve flying on the F35s and Merlins to exercise the aircrew and deck crew but as C16 has pointed out they wouldn’t leave any on deck for this trial. The country couldn’t afford to lose any to foreseeable prangs.

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#15 Post by Boac » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:05 am

OK, FD - got that. How many F35s are actually on board?

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#16 Post by FD2 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:36 am

I haven't a clue.

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#17 Post by Boac » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:05 am

I thought not.

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#18 Post by OneHungLow » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:38 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:05 am
OK, FD - got that. How many F35s are actually on board?
On the day that the flight test was undertaken, who knows, but usually...

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#19 Post by Boac » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:57 pm

On the day that the flight test was undertaken, who knows,
You are so right. Presumably not you?

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#20 Post by OneHungLow » Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:00 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:57 pm
On the day that the flight test was undertaken, who knows,
You are so right. Presumably not you?
Your irony is ferrous! =))

Who knows, perhaps they heard that some errant RAF type was blundering around their zone, and asked for the decks to be cleared! :p ;)))

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