In praise of the spam can... hail the Cherokee

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In praise of the spam can... hail the Cherokee

#1 Post by Cacophonix » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:10 pm

For those of us who fly these light aircraft or for those who want to take up flying, here is a good synopsis of the characteristics of what I call classic spam, namely the Cessna 172 etc. and, primarily, the Cherokee.

Produced by IT specialists who produce training simulators, and who are pilots themselves, this is an excellent video and can be enjoyed by pilots of any kind methinks.



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#2 Post by Slasher » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:49 am




This is how I fly from the back seat with me little bloke up front. He is in fact little so I do get a bit of a view of some instruments if I lean forward a bit. Bit of waffle on this vid but the essentials are there.




With huge bastards like Caco and the Sqn Ldr in the front I'll be relying on them as pilots to do the mag checks, call certain speeds etc. I can land from the back ok till they pick up the technique. Don't worry about iPad holders etc - none of that rubbish will be onboard.

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Re: In praise of the spam can... hail the Cherokee

#3 Post by Cacophonix » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:45 am

Slasher wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:49 am

This is how I fly from the back seat with me little bloke up front. He is in fact little so I do get a bit of a view of some instruments if I lean forward a bit. Bit of waffle on this vid but the essentials are there.

With huge bastards like Caco and the Sqn Ldr in the front I'll be relying on them as pilots to do the mag checks, call certain speeds etc. I can land from the back ok till they pick up the technique. Don't worry about iPad holders etc - none of that rubbish will be onboard.
I am a huger bastard than Ex-Ascot in a corporeal sense anyway!

Ah a wooden instrument panel. Classic spam indeed and surely an aircraft to cherish for ever!

As for VFR navigation I always use a chart, lines plotted on a 1:500,00 with a chinagraph pencil and navigate using compass/DI and a watch, although as Class D and A airspace has become so prevalent here in the South East of the UK, I must admit that I tend to plot the route on Sky Demon on my phone as well these days. It has an alarm that rings if it looks like you are about to commit a faux pas and reminds you to make a request of a controller in the case of Class D. The fun is slowly being sucked out of flying here, as it is out of so much else as well.


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#4 Post by Slasher » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:27 am

For general pootling and some aeros around the back hills where I'm not seen, I just use the CAAT* AIP map for my home field. For xcountry I use my old Garmin GPS in conjunction with CAAT low level maps and RNCs.

* https://www.caat.or.th/en

Used to use my Co iPad that had the Jeppeson Pro app but had to hand that in when I busted out of the Gulf.

Where can I download Sky Demon (iPad) for my neck of the woods Caco? 'Air Navigation Pro' looked hopeful but it's a bit unreliable apparently and the subscription is too high for the simple purposes I'd use it for.

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#5 Post by Cacophonix » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:44 am

What is your home airfield Slash?


Fecking SkyDemon covers uncivilized places like Zambia and South Africa but not Thailand...!

Thailand.JPG

X(

At least it covers all the countries on the route to Cape Town!

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#6 Post by Slasher » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:05 am

You know me home airfield mate. ;)))

Yeh bugga. Guess I'll just stick to me old Garmin and paper charts then Caco. Thanks for looking anyway.

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#7 Post by Cacophonix » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:21 am

Slasher wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:05 am
You know me home airfield mate. ;)))

Yeh bugga. Guess I'll just stick to me old Garmin and paper charts then Caco. Thanks for looking anyway.
I do. I was just being lazy. Using Sky Demon and all this modern electronic malarkey just makes one lazy Slash!

It is a real pity about SkyDemon and the whole of Asia it seems.

It is a very good app. Almost like having a FMGS/FD onboard without the IRS! Allows online filing of flight plans, PLOGS etc (I use it when flying in Europe) and it gathers all required , TAFs, METARS, NOTAMS etc. and can be integrated with Pooleys charts etc. Shows airways waypoints etc. as well although it is meant to be a VFR tool. Can show satellite topography as well if you dig that kind of thing.

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#8 Post by Slasher » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:16 am

Cacophonix wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:21 am
It is a very good app.

Yeh I looked at Sky Demon on the App Store Caco but it said it's primarily used in Europe, plus the writeups weren't so hot for use on an iPad.

I used to bring home me Co iPad in which I'd use the Jepp app for all me aviatorory needs here, not that I really needed it. I could've really used it to good purpose on me recent trip to Loei though.

But we old galoots with WAC chart clock and compass flowing in our veins can safely handle flying without the mod-cons mate.

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#9 Post by Cacophonix » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:28 am

Slasher wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:16 am
Cacophonix wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:21 am
It is a very good app.

Yeh I looked at Sky Demon on the App Store Caco but it said it's primarily used in Europe, plus the writeups weren't so hot for use on an iPad.

I used to bring home me Co iPad in which I'd use the Jepp app for all me aviatorory needs here, not that I really needed it. I could've really used it to good purpose on me recent trip to Loei though.

We old galoots with WAC chart clock and compass flowing in our veins can safely handle flying without the mod-cons mate.

SkyDemon works fine on the i-Pad now Slash. Always use it when barrelling around low along the Scottish lochs, as accidently going up the wrong one can be bad for one's health. It has never let me down, yet! =))

As for the rest the old Russian stopwatch and the whiskey compass always suffices as you say. :-bd

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#10 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:54 am

Yesterday I decided to prepare a Flt. Plan to a nearby gathering, didn't need to, know the area very well, but did it anyway as I reckoned I needed to keep my hand in, not being an iPad devotee. I measured the track as 119 (T) with a Var'n. of 19E, used a W/V of 020/10 and came up with a Hdg(M) to fly of 096, i.e. 4 deg. drift correction into wind. Seemed OK, but just for fun entered the data into an Online flight planning service available locally, which gave me a Hdg(M) of 103, ie. 3 degrees away from the wind. 'tis a puzzlement, what did I do wrong ? In the event I threw it all away and just flew to the private strip that I was familiar with, down the coast, for a lunch attended by about 30 different aircraft types, from 172's through Tiger Moths, to microlights and gyrocopters. Nice day.

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#11 Post by Cacophonix » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:08 pm

Talking of the Tecnam… more than just a plastic cup this one...
Italian airplane maker Tecnam got the Christmas present it likely wished for as the company achieved certification from the European Aviation Safety Agency for the commuter-style airplane in the company’s 70-year history – the P2012 Traveller. The Traveller was designed as a solution for low-cost regional air travel, with two turbocharged 375 hp Lycoming piston engines powering the 11-seat high-wing airplane. The engines are managed electronically, eliminating the need for manual mixture controls.

The instrument panel is dominated by Garmin’s G1000 Nxi avionics suite, with two 10-inch PFDs and a 12-inch MFD screen in the center. The system includes full ADS-B In and Out capability, Garmin’s 3D audio system, angle of attack capabilities, a fully integrated autopilot and much more. Cav Ice’s TKS system makes the airplane FIKI capable.

Tecnam met all of its development goals for the P2012, including the certification target, and the company’s experimental test pilot Lorenzo De Stefano conducted 600 hours of flight testing in conditions representing extreme heat and cold, flutter, speeds and altitudes.

“The EASA certification of the P2012 Traveller marks a significant milestone for my Tecnam team, our very first commuter airline aircraft,” said Tecnam’s CEO, Paolo Pascale. “We have embraced new challenges and developed new skills. I am very proud to lead one of the most innovative and growing global aviation companies and I dedicate this important achievement to Luigi and Giovanni Pascale, [the] brothers who started all this in 1948.”

Cape Air, a regional airline based in Hyannis, Massachusetts, signed a contract for 100 P2012s and it will be the launch customer. But the first delivery to Cape Air can’t be made until the FAA certification is complete, another milestone that Tecnam expects very soon. Tecnam plans to deliver 20 Travellers to Cape Air in 2019.

While the P2012 is well suited for short-range regional travel, the airplane can also be configured for Medevac, VIP, cargo and more. The P2012 Traveller was the final design of Luigi Pascale, known fondly at the company as Il Professore, who died in 2017 at the age of 93.
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https://p2012.tecnam.org/

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#12 Post by Woody » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:15 pm

Someone planning a flight tomorrow has just sent me this :-o
 
TAF: EGSS 260509Z 2606/2712 16008KT 3500 BR FEW030 BECMG 2606/2608 9999NSW PROB30 TEMPO 2606/2608 BKN004 TEMPO 2608/2622 9000 -SHRA PROB40 TEMPO 2608/2618 SHRA BKN014CB BECMG 2613/2616 23010KT BECMG 2620/2623 17012KT TEMPO 2622/2701 19015G25KT 8000 RA SHRA BKN010 BECMG 2701/2704 20020G30KT BECMG 2704/2707 23020G30KT TEMPO 2705/2712 6000 SHRA BKN012 BECMG 2707/2710 26025KT PROB30 TEMPO 2710/2712 27028G40KT

 

The 40 knot gusts imply 50 to 60 knots at altitude with low cloud forecast as well. Not conducive to a simple, comfortable flight methinks.
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