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All credit to ATC and the student. One hopes the instructor recovers.

Frank Spencer had the same thing happen to him.

And I know of others, not sure if first flight but certainly with pax.

I remember my father telling me of an incident like that in a Hampden.

Now Hollywood can make the movie, again!

It happened at Cardiff Wales back in the 90's. Sadly some chap's PPL father in law dropped dead when taking him up for his first ever flight in a light aircraft. The young chap was talked down by ATC and he managed to make a passable landing without damaging the aircraft.

Hello all. Oh how scary! My first TIF I had a lovely instructor. She gave me much confidence. If she had collapsed I would be terrified! Maryanne.

Good day!

What is TIF?

And welcome here Maryanne! I missed the other thread.

Rwy in sight hello! TIF stands for trial instructional flight here in Australia. It is an introduction learning flight with you at the controls to see if you wanted to really learn to fly. I was 22 years old when I did this flight and enjoyed it very much! Maryanne

I did an RAF Cadet gliding course when I was 16 and an RAF 'Flying Scholarship' (at Cranfield) when I was 17. My instructor was the lovely Pam Klein (later to become Pam Campbell) and I clearly recall Pam throwing the Cessna 150 into a spin on the first demo and macho BOAC clutching the seat tightly in a state of 'excitement'.

I also did a RAF 'Flying Scholarship' course. At Cambridge. C152 I think. One of our course on his first solo left base throttled back and the whole cable came out in his hand. He made it.

Our digs was a house opposite the airfield. The police parked crashed cars on an area of land in front for inspection. Many with bloodied windscreens. Great sight when going for breakfast in the terminal. A great free month. Left with a PPL and a diploma in punting. The latter to become of great value here for the mokoro.

Both my TIF and the day of my first IMC rating instruction were memorable for all of the wrong reasons.

Just before the trial flight a well known orthopaedic surgeon and his son in law took off in a tiger moth and the aircraft reared up at too high an angle of attack, stalled and spun in seriously injuring both men. The emergency services were working on them and the runway was shut so the lesson was scrubbed! Sadly the the surgeon succumbed to his injuries six months later.

I completed my trial lesson the following weekend with an instructor so short that he needed a cushion to see over the instrument panel. Lovely guy and very good pilot who set me on my way. He is now a senior Captain with a well known British airline.


The first IMC lesson dawned on a truly IMC day. The instructor was hemming and hawing about the weather when an inbound Dassault Falcon went round and diverted to Bournemouth which might have been a warning to the following spam can that flew an ILS approach but crashed a mile short of the runway in a wood. Suffice it to say we didn't fly that day either.

Let me know when you are next planning to go hovering etc

Boac wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:53 am

Let me know when you are next planning to go hovering etc

You see me as a causal factor in these sad events...?

Next flight on Saturday the 07th March, I'll alert the press...

I see you more as a 'Swiss Cheese' perhaps? I've never heard of The Green Goblin' cheese, but I would imagine it is quite strongly flavoured (and possibly full of holes..... )

Boac wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:58 am

I see you more as a 'Swiss Cheese' perhaps? I've never heard of The Green Goblin' cheese, but I would imagine it is quite strongly flavoured (and possibly full of holes..... )

Green cheese, yugh! You can't get fungus furred holes to line up!

I do know of a Splattered Toad white wine mind.

On a serious note ref. the Tiger Moth crash above, twas not pilot error, but a jammed elevator (loose nut) if I remember correctly.