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Baltic mystery.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:00 pm
by G-CPTN

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:18 am
by Fox3WheresMyBanana
ran out of oxygen - hardly "mysterious".

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:39 am
by PHXPhlyer
Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:18 am
ran out of oxygen - hardly "mysterious".
ran out of... Fuel
... Altitude
... Ideas

PP

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:57 am
by llondel
Sounds a bit like the Helios 522 incident, assuming they were high enough for lack of oxygen to take them out. Aircraft keeps doing what it was told to until it runs out of fuel.

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:26 am
by Rwy in Sight
Wasn't there also a similar (ie involving an executive jet) in the States about 22 years ago? The decompression part it is.

Isn't a bit unusual to have a decompression part so late in flight?

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:23 am
by talmacapt
RiS

I think you are referring to the famous? golfer Payne Stewart?

There was a "crash investigators" programme about it on Finnish tv.

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:56 pm
by Boac
Out of Jerez to' an undeclared destination'?? Family of 3 aboard. No-one visible in the cockpit. Very odd.

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:00 pm
by Fox3WheresMyBanana
I believe undeclared destinations are becoming more common due to flight following apps allowing people to track celebs, etc. There may be nothing suspicious in that.

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:02 pm
by TheGreenAnger
Many business/corporate jets are high rollers in the cruise. Not much time to react to sudden decompression at altitudes about 30,000 feet. This table of useful consciousness gives some inkling as to the margins...

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Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:06 am
by Ex-Ascot
Oh Lord TGA did you have to remind us of that. We and I am sure many more on this forum had to go much higher than that.

Surely oxygen was available on this jet.

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:09 am
by Boac
I think the standard was a rapid decompression in the chamber from 25k to 65k+ for the Lightning. The smell of Ruddlesfart was amazing.................... :))

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:42 am
by Ex-Ascot
I guess we did 43k. North Luffenham was not the best location for this exercise given the local beer. We had one chap who blew up but nothing came out. He recovered. Hate to be one of those doctors who do it all the time.

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:52 pm
by TheGreenAnger
Ex-Ascot wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:42 am
Hate to be one of those doctors who do it all the time.
If you do too much of that high or low pressure stuff you up your chances of a stroke or brain damage by factors that are still under dispute. Keep breathing, and look at the mortality figures for divers in the North Sea, for example (part of my business). Shocking actually!

Stay well.

Re: Baltic mystery.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:22 am
by Fox3WheresMyBanana
I discovered my ability to do mental math, such as square roots, diminishes as the main sign of hypoxia for me. The same problem also occurs with fatigue, so I still use this as a test of my brain's ability to function effectively.