Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineers

[Blacksheep]

I'm a lapsed BCAR Section 'L' licence holder. Licence number 17270, Type Rated in Paragraphs 9 (Electical Systems) 10.1.3 (B707 Multi-Category instruments, Compasses & Autopilots) and 10.1.6 (B737 Ditto)

Approvals on B707-436, B707-336, B747-136, B747-236, B737-3M6, B757-200 series, B767-200 & -300 series (PW & CF6), F27-500 series and F28-100 series.

I haven't seen a Form 700 since July 1977 and we civilians don't write jokes in the Aircraft Technical Log because we're too professional.

That and the fear of getting the sack.

[Airborne Aircrew]

Electical Systems

Shame you never learned to spell it... <snigger>

[probes]

Could be worse? Like 'eclectical systems'?

[om15]

I did have a BCAR A.C.X until I became a European, now have B1,B2,C. Unfortunately not current due to unserviceable knees and eyesight, now I just do stuff on lap tops.
Type Ratings;-
Air Tractor AT-800 series (PWC PT6), Airbus A300 B2/B4. (GE CF6),ATR 42-200/300 series (PWC120),ATR 72-100/200 series (PW 120 Series)
BAe 146/AVRO 146-RJ (Honeywell ALF 500),Beech 200 series (PWC PT6),Beech 90 series (PWC PT6),Beech 99/100 series (PWC PT6)
Britten-Norman BN2T series (RR Corp 250),Cessna 401/402 (Continental),Cessna 404 (Continental),Cessna 411 (Continental),Cessna 414 (Continental),Cessna 421 (Continental),Cessna 421 (Honeywell TPE331),Cessna 500/501/551 (PWC JT15D),Cessna 525/525A (Williams FJ44)
Cessna 525B/525C (Williams FJ44),Cessna 550/560 (PWC JT15D),Cessna 550/560 (PWC530/535),Cessna 560XL/XLS (PWC545)
Cessna 680 (PW306),De Havilland DHC-6 (PWC PT6),Dornier 228 (Honeywell TPE331),Embraer EMB-110 (PWC PT6)
Fairchild SA226 series (Honeywell TPE331),Fairchild SA227 series Honeywell TPE331),Fairchild SA227 series (PWC PT6)
Fokker F27/Fairchild F-27/FH227 (RRD Dart),Full Group 3,Full Sub Group 2a,Grob G520 series (Honeywell TPE331),HP Herald (RR Dart)
HS748 (RRD Dart),Shorts SD3 series -30/SD3-60 (PWC PT6)

Swap the lot for a Boeing.
Last sight of a F700 in Dec 1976.

[Blacksheep]

Oops! It should of course be spelled "Electrickery Systems"

Never bothered with Part 66 as I was "Management" when the change occurred. The last time I signed off a CMR was in '89.

[om15]

I know what you mean, I was QM at the time of change, didn't want to lose it so transferred, have used it up to quite recently, not as a full time job but often to help out, but never know when it might come in handy.

[Wodrick]

I am CAA LWTR 22366 Electrics, Instruments, Autopilot, Combined Category Instrument/Autopilot, Radio communication, Navigation and Radar. Due to a life in the UK in an Approved maintenance organisation I never had the need for a type rating. On conversion my Licence changed and is now A, B2 and strangely C.
Company Approvals held have been Boeing 707,727, 737,2,3,4, 747-200, 757, 767. Airbus Industrie A300B4, A320 series both engines, A330 series GE & RR. Bac 1-11 series, BaE 146 200 & 300, Bae 748, DC10, -10 & -30. Fokker F100. I could add the DH106 4,4b and 4C but that was only Radio and a very long time ago.
Most of which comes from working for a long time for a third party maintenance organisation.
A guess - is form700 what I would call a tech log ?

[om15]

The F700 is more complicated than a Tech Log, benefit is a universal system used on all types, not the way we do things with a different layout and content for each operator and type.

The Maintenance Form 700 for E3DSST SIR is to consist of the following MOD Forms:
MOD Form 700C Aircraft Maintenance Form Cover
Section 1. MOD Form 707A Controlled Form Aircraft Maintenance Log
MOD Form 707AL(LITS) Outstanding LITS Entry Log
MOD Form 799/5 Instructions for Use - MOD Form 707A
MOD Form 799/5A(IS) Instructions for Use - MOD Form 707B(IS)
MOD Form 799/5L(LITS) Instructions for Use - MOD Forms 707AL(LITS)
MOD Form 799/5R(LITS) LITS Reporting
Section 2. MOD Form 703 Controlled Form Limitations Log
MOD Form 703B Controlled Form Onboard Software Log
MOD Form 799/2 Instructions for Use - MOD Forms 703, 703A1 and 703A2
MOD Form 799/2B Instructions for Use - MOD Form 703B
Section 3. MOD Form 704 Controlled Form Acceptable Deferred Faults Log
MOD Form 799/3 Instructions for Use - MOD Forms704, 704A, 704D and 704E
Section 4. MOD Form 705(SIR) Controlled Form Flight Servicing Certificate
MOD Form 705(SSR) Controlled Form Supplementary Flight Servicing Register
MOD Form 705(SSC) Controlled Form Supplementary Flight Servicing Certificate
MOD Form 799/4(SIR) Instructions for Use - MOD Form 705(SIR)
MOD Form 799/4(SFS) Instructions for Use - MOD Forms 705(SSR) and 705(SSC)
Section 5. MOD Form 721B Controlled Form Forecast Sheet
MOD Form 799/6 Instructions for Use - MOD Form 721B
Section 6. Not in Use
Section 7. MOD Form 727C Supplementary Maintenance Register
MOD Form 727D Supplementary Maintenance Register
MOD Form 727E SOOPMR Record
MOD Form 728 Component Replacement Record
MOD Form 746 Modification Embodiment Record Card
MOD Form 747 SI/STI Record Card
MOD Form 748 Miscellaneous Record Card
MOD Form 798 Instructions for Use - Maintenance and Component Replacement Control Document
MOD Form 798B Maintenance and Component Replacement Control Document Amendment Record
Section 8. Not in Use
Section 9. Not in Use
Section 10. Not in Use
Section 11. MOD Form 713 Controlled Form Register of Controlled MOD Forms
MOD Form 799/1 General Instructions for Use
MOD Form 799/1(SIR) Index

[Keef]

MOD Form 713 Controlled Form Register of Controlled MOD Forms

I love this one!

Seeing that list, and having never come across any of those forms, I understand the confusion! For the GA aircraft I've looked after, it's a "workpack" that we never see and handwritten entries in the aircraft logbooks. There are several sections with different coloured pages to make it easier.

[om15]

Keef, I left the mob in 1976, have spent the past 8 years contracting in civil airworthiness and quality, including a return to the military environment with a contract for 3 years as a part time Airworthiness Surveyor for the MAA carrying out mil145 audits, found that the complexity of systems in use staggering in comparison to the simple and effective way of achieving the same in civilian aviation.

[Ibbie]

It's alright for you techy chaps as there are several of you to brag about your qualifications.

As for me, one time re-possessor of aircraft, there is nowhere for me to brag.

Think I'll go into a corner and sulk.

wodrick

I did expect Airspeed Ambassador to appear in your conquests.

[Wodrick]

Just missed it *Ibbie* I think the last was WFU in 1971 and I started in 1972, straight from College in Bristol.
For years I was "The College Boy" most of the rest were Forces or Woodford.

[om15]

Wodrick, were you Manchester, our paths may have crossed,

Ibbie, There have been quite a few aircraft that I have worked on that I would have been very happy for you to have repossesed at the time, maybe you did!

[Wodrick]

Wodrick, were you Manchester,

All my working life

[om15]

I see you were 748 typed, I worked with ex Manchester Dan Air Budgie LAME with JEA/Emerald and I dare say we have common acquaintances, I repped two A300 C checks for CEX at FLS in 2000 if you were there then.
I took my first CAA exam at Ringway in 1979, (AEC2), working at Blackpool with BIA at the time

[reddo]

When I was communicating with a tame engineer at Northolt trying to develop a protocol for remote signing off of no damage bird strikes, the file was called "Bird Murdering".

Whilst I didn't write it up, the cover of the emergency hatch was loose. Our engineers solution was to wrap it in speed tape. (Remembering the well known flow chart resulting in WD40 or Speed tape.)

[Wodrick]

Dare say we will have common acquaintances, true. I was always a Line engineer and in 2000 a Shift Supervisor but it was also my 'Bad Time' when I was having blackouts and not allowed out of the office. There are massive holes in my memory for 18 months around then and I don't remember those checks although I would probably have been involved.
I retired in 2008, early, but I didn't fancy the Tommy Cook regime at all.

[om15]

Spent 6 weeks there with two C checks back to back, nice relaxed place, still bump into someone from that time around the tracks, were you on the line with Arthur Rutter? I worked with him in the Brab hangar at Filton before it closed.

[Wodrick]

I know the name but do not remember he was ever on Man Line (Dan, FLS, Srt, or Airtours/ MyTravel). maybe H4 or Qualitair

[Blacksheep]

The reason for the licence bragging lies in the header for the topic - but as it goes on to say, if you don't have one, a driving licence will do.

I did find it ironic that the topic mentions AME licences with reference to the Good old Form 700.