This is a poll. Who will be UK's next PM?

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Who will be the UK's next PM?

Poll runs till Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:01 pm

Michael Gove
4
11%
Jeremy Hunt
3
8%
Sajid Javid
0
No votes
Boris Johnson
19
50%
Andrea Leadsom
2
5%
Esther McVey
0
No votes
Penny Mordaunt
2
5%
Dominic Raab
7
18%
Amber Rudd
1
3%
Liz Truss
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 38

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Re: This is a poll. Who will be UK's next PM?

#161 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:17 am

Please explain your reason for this statement
"I can understand the allure of Javid, a man after your own heart really."
When you've done that kindly refer me to the 'polite question which remains unanswered'.
Talking of evasion, how about your meeting with Raab, a polite question that remains unanswered ...thus far.
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#162 Post by Krystal n Chips » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:42 am

Capetonian wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:17 am
Please explain your reason for this statement
"I can understand the allure of Javid, a man after your own heart really."
When you've done that kindly refer me to the 'polite question which remains unanswered'.
Talking of evasion, how about your meeting with Raab, a polite question that remains unanswered ...thus far.
Oh gosh ! perhaps this another attempt to impress the chaps here ?.....you know the sort of thing "watch this chaps, I'll get K n C to take the bait ".......alas.

You have referred to immigrants, on numerous posts as "aliens " and "invaders " have you not ? Have a read of Javid's voting record here.

As for the polite question, that's very easy. You stated you've met Raab and what a splendid person ( or words to that effect ) he is, so the question, again, was where, and when and in what context or venue.

Difficult innit ?

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#163 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:18 am

No, unlike you I have no need to try to impress people.
You have referred to immigrants, on numerous posts as "aliens " and "invaders " have you not
Again, you are wrong, as usual misquoting the words of others. An 'immigrant' and an 'invader' are two entirely different things, clearly you are confused over this.

Regarding Dominic Raab, I note that on 31 MAY you wrote :
Be interesting to learn, factually ( I know, but hope springs eternal in this respect ) where and when you met him an in what context.
That is not a question, it's a very poorly and verbosely written statement, complete with spelling and grammatical errors, and as such does not solicit an answer.
Questions should have a question mark (one of these : ?) at the end.
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#164 Post by OFSO » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:30 am

Saw that Stewart chappie speaking on TV yesterday. Spoke very well. Either a good actor or very sincere. Understands that there's no more deal to be squozed out of Brussels. Interesting to listen to unlike the drone of the ghastly Maybore. He won't get it, but should.

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#165 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:34 am

This might be another nail in Gove's coffin :
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... ure%3Anews
Michael Gove jokes about Prince Charles
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#166 Post by Krystal n Chips » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:07 am

Capetonian wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:18 am
No, unlike you I have no need to try to impress people.
You have referred to immigrants, on numerous posts as "aliens " and "invaders " have you not
Again, you are wrong, as usual misquoting the words of others. An 'immigrant' and an 'invader' are two entirely different things, clearly you are confused over this.

Regarding Dominic Raab, I note that on 31 MAY you wrote :
Be interesting to learn, factually ( I know, but hope springs eternal in this respect ) where and when you met him an in what context.
That is not a question, it's a very poorly and verbosely written statement, complete with spelling and grammatical errors, and as such does not solicit an answer.
Questions should have a question mark (one of these : ?) at the end.
On the contrary, you ingratiate yourself on here, as you did on TOP, at every opportunity.

That said, I have not misquoted your posts, or words, in any context and certainly not with regard to your references to "aliens " and "invaders " where immigrants are concerned.

The last paragraph is one of the most risible efforts for evasive answering I've ever seen. When you have to resort to being critical of grammar and spelling errors, rather than answer a very simple question as to where and when you met Raab, as you claimed, then evidently you haven't or you would be able to respond with the answer immediately.

There again, you also suffered another memory lapse when asked about your nationality on your birth certificate.

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Re: This is a poll. Who will be UK's next PM?

#167 Post by Krystal n Chips » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:44 am

Capetonian wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 11:01 pm
Born in Eton, Berkshire in 1974 Raab is the son of a British mother and Peter Raab, a Czech-born Jewish father who came to Britain in 1938 aged six, ........ He grew up in Gerrards Cross, Buckinghamshire, where through his mother's influence he was brought up in the Church of England.
I fail to see the relevance of his religion of birth, least of all since we don't know what, if any, he practises. Furthermore, under Jewish law (which is bunkum but the point is relevant) unless his mother was Jewish, which does not appear to be the case, he is technically not Jewish.

I have met him. A very pleasant man and one who inspires confidence. I would be happy to see him as PM.


Erm, remember this and a certain question I posed ?

Look forward to the reply.....factual, dismissive or evasive whatever yer wish sunshine...take yer pick ! (the vernacular used being representative of Manchester, in case you were thinking of resorting to the grammar and spellin excuse.......again )

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#168 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:47 am

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#169 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:18 pm

No, moron, you didn't ask a question, you made an obscure statement implying that 'it would be interesting to learn' something. That does not warrant an answer.
rather than answer a very simple question as to where and when you met Raab, as you claimed, then evidently you haven't or you would be able to respond with the answer immediately.
You still haven't asked a question, you've referred to a statement, however there is a poorly worded implied question in it, that question being, where and when did I meet Raab.
You've ill-advisedly and incorrectly called me a liar by saying "evidently you haven't or you would be able to respond with the answer immediately."
First of all, I could have answered and made anything up, and you would have no way of verifying the authenticity of my statement. I could say anything from :
"I met him in the public toilet behind Weybridge Green at 0100 last Friday"
to
"We are both on the committee at St. Georges Hill Club". (Way out of your league by the way.)
Therefore, it's an utterly pointless question.
The bottom line is that I don't give a toss whether you believe me or not, and secondly, it's none of your effing business. Therefore I am not answering the question.

Moving on before I terminate this :
you also suffered another memory lapse when asked about your nationality on your birth certificate.
Another of your sweeping absurd statements.
I know exactly what it says on my birth certificate. Incidentally it is possible to have more than one such document.
I know what passports and nationalities I hold currently, and have held in the past.
I would point out to you that I could have been born in country A, my nationality at birth could have been B, and I could have acquired or revoked other nationalities.
Place of birth does not equal nationality.
Passport does not equal nationality.

The bottom line is that once again it's none of your effing business, if it were I would conduct private correspondence with you (don't even think about it!), and nor is it something I would place on a public forum.

In brief, grow up, or fcuk off, or both.

P.S. Stalking someone is an offence, and I regard your offensive questions and inappropriate interest in me as stalking.
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Re: This is a poll. Who will be UK's next PM?

#170 Post by Krystal n Chips » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:10 pm

Capetonian wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:18 pm
No, moron, you didn't ask a question, you made an obscure statement implying that 'it would be interesting to learn' something. That does not warrant an answer.
rather than answer a very simple question as to where and when you met Raab, as you claimed, then evidently you haven't or you would be able to respond with the answer immediately.
You still haven't asked a question, you've referred to a statement, however there is a poorly worded implied question in it, that question being, where and when did I meet Raab.
You've ill-advisedly and incorrectly called me a liar by saying "evidently you haven't or you would be able to respond with the answer immediately."
First of all, I could have answered and made anything up, and you would have no way of verifying the authenticity of my statement. I could say anything from :
"I met him in the public toilet behind Weybridge Green at 0100 last Friday"
to
"We are both on the committee at St. Georges Hill Club". (Way out of your league by the way.)
Therefore, it's an utterly pointless question.
The bottom line is that I don't give a toss whether you believe me or not, and secondly, it's none of your effing business. Therefore I am not answering the question.

Moving on before I terminate this :
you also suffered another memory lapse when asked about your nationality on your birth certificate.
Another of your sweeping absurd statements.
I know exactly what it says on my birth certificate. Incidentally it is possible to have more than one such document.
I know what passports and nationalities I hold currently, and have held in the past.
I would point out to you that I could have been born in country A, my nationality at birth could have been B, and I could have acquired or revoked other nationalities.
Place of birth does not equal nationality.
Passport does not equal nationality.

The bottom line is that once again it's none of your effing business, if it were I would conduct private correspondence with you (don't even think about it!), and nor is it something I would place on a public forum.

In brief, grow up, or fcuk off, or both.

P.S. Stalking someone is an offence, and I regard your offensive questions and inappropriate interest in me as stalking.
The vehemence of your reply suggests you haven't met him. My question was posed with all the clarity necessary to avoid even minimal confusion.

If you feel I am "stalking " you, please, feel free to contact the Police and make a formal complaint.

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Re: This is a poll. Who will be UK's next PM?

#171 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:18 pm

There is no confusion at all and I know precisely when and where I have met him and under what circumstances. I simply do not choose to share that with you.

You are less significant a than passing fly. I would not waste anyone's time, let alone that of any authority, in dealing with you.

So, fcuk off.
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Re: This is a poll. Who will be UK's next PM?

#172 Post by Krystal n Chips » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Capetonian wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:18 pm
There is no confusion at all and I know precisely when and where I have met him and under what circumstances. I simply do not choose to share that with you.

You are less significant a than passing fly. I would not waste anyone's time, let alone that of any authority, in dealing with you.

So, fcuk off.
So why the reticence to quantify as much. After all, you've said you feel he would make a good PM so it's far from unreasonable to ask why and on what basis, even more so as you've met him..........allegedly.

I don't think you like me very much do you ? .....me late Mum did, and so does our dog by the way....

Here's one for you then...I've been in the toilets of a gay bar in Manchester with a future Tory MP.....now lets see how the foetid little minds on here interpret that.

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#173 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:27 pm

Capetonian, you are perfectly correct. I have been stalked, and know of at least one other at TOP has been stalked. Ridiculing a new thread posted on TOP is a clear case of cyber bullying.

It would be instructive to report such stalking and bullying to both site administrators and the police for creating distress and psychological harm.

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#174 Post by G-CPTN » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:09 pm

Capetonian wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:18 pm
"We are both on the committee at St. Georges Hill Club".
Would that be the Golf Club or the Tennis Club? :D

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#175 Post by Krystal n Chips » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:54 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:27 pm
Capetonian, you are perfectly correct. I have been stalked, and know of at least one other at TOP has been stalked. Ridiculing a new thread posted on TOP is a clear case of cyber bullying.

It would be instructive to report such stalking and bullying to both site administrators and the police for creating distress and psychological harm.
You seem fascinated by the concept of "stalking "......and oblivious to the fact there is a common denominator here with regard to those who use this feeble excuse to negate their own frailties and ego's.

Ridiculing a new thread....ah, would this be the one where you started reminiscing about long obsolete TWR / APP freq and long closed RAF Stations ?...that would be a novel topic for "Mastermind " come to think of it..then ?....have you found out who your car insurance is with yet ?

However, if you and Capetonian feel you have been subjected to "psychological harm ", please feel free to report me to the police.

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#176 Post by larsssnowpharter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:06 pm

Just to get back on track, my bet would be on Boris winning. Not my choice as future PM but it does illustrate the paucity of talent in the PCP in that it appears likely to choose a man who has been fired from previous jobs for lying twice and is such a beacon of moral standards.
I fear the reason for this is our continued descent into a US style presidential system. Thus the Tory MPs believe this buffoon more likely to appeal to the general public and defeat Comrade Corbyn and extend their time with their noses in the trough.
Sad really.

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#177 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:18 pm

It does look more and more as if Boris will win.

I'm happy with that when you compare him to most of the others, but to me the most important thing is to keep the socialists out of No. 10.
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#178 Post by larsssnowpharter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:28 pm

I would argue that the socialists are already in No 10.
Whether you like it or not, the Tory manifesto is socialist. Our country is socialist. The fact that we have things like the NHS, Council Housing, a State benefits system etc etc are all indicators.
The question really is how far to the left you want to lurch.

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#179 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:39 pm

Perhaps I should have said Marxists. I meant Corbyn's shower of excrement.
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#180 Post by BenThere » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:43 pm

The question really is how far to the left you want to lurch.

And the farther left you lurch the worse it gets. Governments run out of money; the people don't get all the freebies they thought they would. Health care sucks. And everyone is broke from high taxes, high unemployment, general decay, crime, and the like.

The left promises a lot and delivers very little, witness Venezuela, where people are starving, there is no medicine, and the masses are focused on escaping with only the shirts on their backs. Not too long ago, Chavez was lauded as a savior on the Left. You don't hear those accolades anymore.

Yet some UK or American socialists will find an audience they can convince that Venezuela just didn't do it right, that everyone deserves food and health care with no program for paying the tab. Even the rich can only pay so much, and a lot of them move their capital to friendlier climes when the tab becomes confiscatory. Then the whole scheme of the have-nots taking and living off the haves falls apart.

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