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Re: Coronabollocks..

#5081 Post by Mrs Ex-Ascot » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:54 pm

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If you have Medical Aid (Insurance) the Med Aid gets billed.
Not here as far as I know. Must ask if friends daughter and s_i_l paid for their J+J sbots in Jo"burg. :)
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#5082 Post by llondel » Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:10 am

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Judge orders Ohio hospital to treat Covid patient with ivermectin
The FDA actively discourages the use of ivermectin to treat Covid-19 patients.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ju ... n-n1278267

A Ohio judge ordered a hospital to give the horse drug ivermectin to a Covid-19 patient last month despite the doctors’ protest. :-o #-o

The Butler County judge said in an Aug. 23 ruling that West Chester Hospital must fulfill the patient's wife's request and administer the drug prescribed to Jeffrey Smith, 51, by a doctor unaffiliated with the hospital. [-X
I'd say they should talk to his wife and ask her to which alternative hospital she would like to transfer her husband in order to treat him with ivermectin.

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#5083 Post by boing » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:17 am

Llondel

I have no horse (if you excuse the obvious pun) in this race but facts need to be corrected.

Ivermectin is indeed used as horse medicine but it has been approved for human use for many, many years and has been used by literally millions of people with safety. The problem is that the human prescription grades of Ivermectin are not easily available so people fall back on using the animal supplies. Since its use is restricted under prescription there is no guidance about what dosage of the vet. compound is safe so people are left to make dangerous experiments. It would seem a wiser course to warn people about misuse but at least say that if you really insist on using it, as desperate people will, then here are the safe dosages. It should be noted that refugees into the US are presently dosed with Ivermectin by the US government to kill parasites as a matter of routine.

Interestingly, the wife of the man being treated with Ivermectin says his condition is improving although his doctors deny this. What has been established from medical records is that the oxygen ratio in his intubation has been reduced from 100% to 50% since the Ivermectin treatment commenced.

Considering that jabbing yourself with any filthy dope that you buy on a street corner to get high is quite accepted in the US it seems a little strange that people are prevented from using a safe, approved, medication, although it be for different purposes, in desperate circumstances such as near inevitable death.

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#5084 Post by ian16th » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:59 pm

Cynicism improves with age

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#5085 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:46 pm

"Offsite alcohol sales would also be allowed from Monday to Friday until 18:00 and on-site until 22:00."
What about the weekends? :-o :-?
Full time or nothing? :-?

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#5086 Post by ian16th » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:55 pm

Currently Friday is part of the weekend and sale of booze is forbidden.
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#5087 Post by boing » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:15 am

Of course, sometimes it helps if you check the target before you loose both barrels. (Woody #5075)
Hoax Report: Rolling Stone Falsely Claims Ivermectin Overdose Patients Flooded Oklahoma Hospitals

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#5088 Post by Woody » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:37 am

Of course, sometimes it helps if you check the target before you loose both barrels. (Woody #5075)
Well I did put in the Coronabollocks thread :D
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#5089 Post by Mrs Ex-Ascot » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:51 am

After two and a half months the booze shops finally opened yesterday. :YMPARTY: Everyone was stocking up on supplies with trolleys overflowing with cases of beer, spirits and wine. :YMPARTY:

This morning on our walk three lorries with extra trailers containing booze passed us heading towards town. Guess all shops sold out yesterday and sent for new supplies. :D
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#5090 Post by Woody » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:14 am

This morning on our walk three lorries with extra trailers containing booze passed us heading towards town. Guess all shops sold out yesterday and sent for new supplies. :D
You must’ve been tempted to divert them :D
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#5091 Post by EA01 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:24 am

Australian Gummint, bunch of @rse clowns, but never worry too much, a biased MSM will be along in no time to cover their backsides. Very very soon someone will come along and say 'Yeah, but the opposition would have been worse'.....a fruitless attempt to deflect the attention away from this utterly useless Gummint. Sure the oppo may or may not have been worse....but they don't have the controls...

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#5092 Post by llondel » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:02 am

boing wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:17 am
Llondel

I have no horse (if you excuse the obvious pun) in this race but facts need to be corrected.

Ivermectin is indeed used as horse medicine but it has been approved for human use for many, many years and has been used by literally millions of people with safety. The problem is that the human prescription grades of Ivermectin are not easily available so people fall back on using the animal supplies. Since its use is restricted under prescription there is no guidance about what dosage of the vet. compound is safe so people are left to make dangerous experiments. It would seem a wiser course to warn people about misuse but at least say that if you really insist on using it, as desperate people will, then here are the safe dosages. It should be noted that refugees into the US are presently dosed with Ivermectin by the US government to kill parasites as a matter of routine.

Interestingly, the wife of the man being treated with Ivermectin says his condition is improving although his doctors deny this. What has been established from medical records is that the oxygen ratio in his intubation has been reduced from 100% to 50% since the Ivermectin treatment commenced.

Considering that jabbing yourself with any filthy dope that you buy on a street corner to get high is quite accepted in the US it seems a little strange that people are prevented from using a safe, approved, medication, although it be for different purposes, in desperate circumstances such as near inevitable death.

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Yes, too many people are buying the horse stuff and then failing to do the maths to arrive at a suitable human dose. Amusingly they look for the apple-flavoured stuff, according to someone I know who works at an animal supply store. They're clearly identifiable by the way they come in and hang around that particular aisle, looking for the correct flavour (usually out of stock or locked up safe) and ignore the big notice that was put up saying it's not for human consumption.

The problem with a single data point is that he might have recovered without the ivermectin treatment - too many of these treatments are not studied under controlled conditions so there is no proof. Personally, if they want to stay at home and take it and avoid hospitals and all the science then great, it leaves the beds free for people with other ailments.

As for providing information to do something the government doesn't want you to do, have you ever known any government, of any political persuasion, to willingly help people go against their edicts?

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#5093 Post by Woody » Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:58 am

Isn’t the equine version a suppository =)) =)) =))
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#5094 Post by Ibbie » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:06 am

Had required Day 2 PCR test last Friday in Southampton. Email supposed to arrive within 48 hours with result.

What a surprise, no email.

The whole testing fiasco in the UK is just a rip off and covid restrictions and news of it with proposed measures, spread by the media and SAGE members are clear attempts to control the public by spreading fear.

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#5095 Post by Mrs Ex-Ascot » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:08 am

A well written comment regarding vaccinating children IMO; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... -work.html
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#5096 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:25 am

Ibbie, my daughter had a same day PCR pre-departure test at Boots with results within the hour. Naturally no result. She rang Boots who assured her the results were on the computer. An hour or so later still no results.

As things were getting tight she considered getting a second test at the port. However she rang her husband in Netherlands who rang Boots. Boots emailed him a screen shot. He emailed the screen shot to my daughter. There has been a problem emailing the results out!

On their previous trip out from Hull in July you could pay for an instant negative test. And I mean instant, just pay your money, get the certificate.

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#5097 Post by Woody » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:50 am

New estimates from the Office for National Statistics that look at how many people experience specific symptoms* of Covid after a long time (rather than self-diagnosing long Covid) yield much lower figures for how many people might be suffering from this condition.
What a surprise :^o
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#5098 Post by OFSO » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:31 am

Should I take Ivermectin ? My voice is somewhat horse this morning....

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#5099 Post by Dushan » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:12 pm

OFSO wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:31 am
Should I take Ivermectin ? My voice is somewhat horse this morning....
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