BREXIT - A Poll & Discussion

[om15]

Slash, you have a clarity that is undimmed by distance, that description would look well in his wikki entry, that equally useless leftie pisshead Bercow is pretending that it didn't happen, so no action taken

[OFSO]

I think that the lady to whom Slash referred should be made our Brexit plenipotentiary to the EU. Her two assets of stupifying ugliness and utter stupidity would ensure that the 27 Member States conceeded anything to get her out of the room, and surely even J-C Drunkard wouldn't make a pass at her.

[om15]

Got to be a bit careful here OFSO, there appears to be some sort of internet type movement being created by the wimmen, you only have to mention women and washing up in the same sentence and they start kicking off, it would appear that we are not supposed to talk about them being ugly and not able to reverse as they now claim to be the same as us.
Have to remember that the next one of them has a puncture.

[FD2]

Slight diversion - I see that another woman has come out and accused Geoffrey Rush of sexual harassment in Oz. She has said she would have said something earlier, but she was restrained by Australia's strict defamation laws which require something called 'evidence', I believe. At least she just seems to be accusing him of behaving a bit oddly and dancing for her with no strides on, or anything else come to that.

It will be interesting to see what position Corbyn's former squeeze Ms Abbott is offered if they get into power. Chancellor perhaps - I hear she's good at figures.

[OFSO]

I stand corrected and withdraw my remarks re the good lady's appearance. Looks are no guide to ability. After all, Macron is conventially handsome and look what an unmitigated prat he is.

[Jetex Jim]

For me there's a touch of hypocrisy when people get distressed about Corbyn calling May stupid. Many in her own party (and a few on here) have recently called her far worse.

Still, it saves people having to think about the financial consequences of that 'no deal' Brexit that now seems likely.

All the while the rest of the world looks on in horrified fascination as the UK gets ready to shoot itself in one foot while hacking off the other leg and eating it.

And finally-

Jane Golding, Co-Chair of British in Europe said: ‘We are appalled to learn that, while aviation and financial services merit an extension of current agreements in the case of no deal, people do not.

"This means that there will be no soft landing for over 1.2 million British nationals living on the continent who will have to adjust to life as third-country nationals overnight once all their EU rights have been stripped from them."

And I'm just glad I have Germany citizenship...

[AtomKraft]

The details will, and can only be, resolved after we leave.

The important thing, is to leave.

[Jetex Jim]

NEWS FROM A FRIEND AT SHOREHAM

A local story which starts off funny and heartwarming and ends up totally, mind bogglingly shocking. It sums up the criminal irresponsibility, negligence and basic dereliction of duty of this Tory government. It’s incredible.

The other day I had an amused email from the Director of Engineering at Shoreham Port. They’d received a package addressed, in true Santa style, to ‘Attila the Stockbroker, Shoreham Port, Southwick’ and he wondered if I’d like to pop round and pick it up from his office, in the port entrance about 300 yards from where we live. I did so today, and thanks very much to Tony Flower for a copy of his novel ‘The Resurrection of Skinny Ted & the Brothel Creepers’ which I look forward to reading. I understand how Santa gets his letters now But that’s not the point of this story.

Just to put non locals in the picture: Shoreham Port’s entire trade is with Europe, importing steel, timber and ballast for use in construction.

The director I met is a fellow Brighton season ticket holder, so we shared a cup of tea and a few thoughts about the season so far, as you do.

Then I asked him what provisions the port authorities had been told to make for customs and other regulations following a no-deal Brexit.

None, he said. He was at a meeting with government officials (DEFRA, DfT) yesterday but received no guidance whatsoever. No customs officers are being trained, no extra staff recruited, nothing.

‘Remember what it was like before?’ he said. (I certainly do!) ‘There were 60 customs officers employed here in a huge building. We’re housed in a new, smaller one now. Even if the personnel were available, where would we put them?’

‘So what’s going to happen?’

‘We don’t know. There is no provision. We haven’t been told anything. I keep going to meetings, but no one tells us anything. We’re not leaving the single market and customs union on 29th March, that’s for sure. Or if we are, there will be chaos.’

Shoreham Port is tiny, handling 600-900 ship arrivals per annum.
The director, in his little office, just round the corner from our house, is tearing his hair out.

Imagine what’s happening in Dover.

[Krystal n Chips]

For me there's a touch of hypocrisy when people get distressed about Corbyn calling May stupid. Many in her own party (and a few on here) have recently called her far worse.

Still, it saves people having to think about the financial consequences of that 'no deal' Brexit that now seems likely.

All the while the rest of the world looks on in horrified fascination as the UK gets ready to shoot itself in one foot while hacking off the other leg and eating it.

And finally-

Jane Golding, Co-Chair of British in Europe said: ‘We are appalled to learn that, while aviation and financial services merit an extension of current agreements in the case of no deal, people do not.

"This means that there will be no soft landing for over 1.2 million British nationals living on the continent who will have to adjust to life as third-country nationals overnight once all their EU rights have been stripped from them."

And I'm just glad I have Germany citizenship...

First, it was nice to see C4 News is held in the same high esteem on here as on TOP. Thus many will be happily oblivious to the fact the interviewers and news items are as condemnatory and critical of Labour as they are of the Tories....albeit with the Tories there's obviously far greater scope.

Re the post above, the little spat also helps divert attention away from a few domestic issues, as has been mentioned before, such as Amber kindly delaying the full roll out of Universal Credit.....for those unaware, this is money provided by the state for poor people, who didn't inherit family wealth , have a range of medical conditions, were made redundant, being the victims of domestic violence in the case of women to name but a few reasons...and it's better politically if the public aren't actually aware of this debacle.

Then there's the Immigration Bill. Now you would have thought the "kick them out and keep them out ! " xenophobic bigots would have been screeching in the 120+ decibel range as this wonderful piece of proposed legislation has not quite gone according to plan. Thus far, nothing......as yet.... thanks entirely to a certain date in March 2019 taking prominence...

" The details will, and can only be, resolved after we leave.

The important thing, is to leave "




Oh quite ! a bit, well a lot like actually, starting an approach below MSA at night, in cloud, everything operating on "STBY " and below fuel minimum whilst happily telling the pax "Ladies and Gentlemen, we will shortly be arriving at Styx International..please ensure your seat belts are fastened and your seats are in the upright position for landing "....etc, etc

[OFSO]

"Their EU Rights being stripped from them....." sigh. Project Fear raises its hoary old head again... I know plenty of non-EU citizens living in the EU, specifically France and Spain, who don't suffer from the absence of those mostly mythical "rights." As far as I can see, UK citizens resident in EU Member States will have to apply for residence permits. UK citizens who just live somewhere as tourists - millions of people from everywhere do this - will continue to slip through the fingers of couldn't-care-less authorities, as long as local tax obligations are met.

[ian16th]

For me there's a touch of hypocrisy when people get distressed about Corbyn calling May stupid.

I understood the problem was that he committed the socialist sin of being being sexist, by referring to the PM as a woman!

[om15]

I am dismayed at the Leader of the Opposition, there is no place in the modern Britain for misogyny and rudeness to ladies, it is indicative of how out of touch the Labour party is and demonstrates their complete unfitness to govern , ever. Completely shocking.

Jetex Jim, your views from afar are rather wide of the mark I'm afraid, the financial consequences of Brexit will in fact benefit us immensely, no tariffs on oranges is only but one example. I can understand the anxieties in the Fatherland at having the free money from UK switched off, but I'm afraid that you will have to fund the mess yourselves from now on.

[Capetonian]

That nasty little toad (or turd, choose your own version) Korbinski, is showing himself up in his true colours. Long may it continue, maybe people will see the light.

Meanwhile, Project Doom gathers speed :

Juncker warns of no deal 'catastrophe' amid fears of grounded British flights and the worst border chaos 'since wartime' as EU reveals its plans for Brexit doomsday

The EU commission unveiled details of its own preparations for no-deal Brexit
UK airlines would have their operations curbed under the contingency plans
EU plans suggested British expats could also lose their rights to stay in countries
Theresa May activated UK's full-blown preparations for crashing out yesterday
Plague, pestilence, and starvation will blight the land, firstborn children will die, fire and brimstone will descend

(I added the last sentence)

[Jetex Jim]

That's the spirit boys. Stiff upper lip, wait until you see the whites of their eyes. Now's not the time to loose our nerves.

Remember there's a Brexit platitude for every pessimistic forecast.

And, as Captain Smith said just prior to encountering that touch of ice, "So far this ship has performed magnificently."

[AtomKraft]

Guys.
It is NOT possible to negotiate a satisfactory 'deal' for us to leave.

The EU want us to stay. They will only agree to a 'deal' that keeps us in their club, or a deal that favours the club. Why would they ever agree to a deal that favours the leaver?

We need to simply leave, and then deal with the consequences.

The sun will still rise in the morning.

[OFSO]

"Tories staged a mini-riot" says Diane Abbott, always ready with an appropriate word.

[Krystal n Chips]

Since women are so disparagingly referred to on here, no doubt many will applaud the actions of the extreme right in respect of this lady.

In case you've all forgotten it doesn't take much for this to escalate into violence and murder....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ers-hitler

[Beef Raiser]

Mr Chips,

Can you remind us how many women have been allowed to be leader of the Labour party ? I'm all for Diane Abbott being next in line and trust you share that view.

[OFSO]

I'm all in favour of Abbott replacing Corbyn. However misguided, ill-informed and cretinous her options are she is at least a personality, whereas Corbyn is an absence, a hole in the space-time continuance, weft without warp, a vacuum so deep even molecules fail to be attracted. A nothingness.

[om15]

K&C, this article is about people of little intellect behaving in a very poor manner, yes what they are saying is completely reprehensible and can in no way be condoned.
However, this is a smokescreen blown out of all proportion by the Guardian to divert outrage from the Leader of the Opposition. It has now been verified by accredited lip readers that the appalling statement alleged to have been uttered by Corbyn is in fact true.
This unbelievable behaviour from a leading political figure (albeit a socialist one) is a reminder that we must never ever let people like this into power, if there were any poor souls left in the UK believing that Labour are electable this must be the final straw, to insult a lady, lie about it and then fail to apologise is the actions of a cad.
If there were any justice left in the UK Mr Rees-Mogg would send one of his coachmen up to London to give Corbyn a richly deserved horse whipping.