BREXIT - A Poll & Discussion

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Do you think the UK leaving the European Union would be a good thing?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:51 pm

Yes
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72%
No
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28%
 
Total votes: 50

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Re: BREXIT - A Poll & Discussion

#5041 Post by barkingmad » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:27 pm

reddo, blame the Eurocrats for your predicament. They are responsible for treating the UK, who had the ARB, AAIB and CAA long before most of their mainland members, as if the UK was some 3rd world country just getting an aviation industry up and running.

In addition, I'm sick to death hearing about workers' rights etc being protected in the EUSSR since it was EASA FTLs which brought another form of sweatshop to the aircraft environment.

Alas thanks to the power of BIGCORP it is most unlikely that the old CAA Cap 371 rules will ever be reintroduced for the "new improved free" UK airline crews. So our crews will have to continue labouring under the less worker-friendly EASA FTLs thanks to our past burrowing ever deeper into bed with the EUSSR juggernaut.

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#5042 Post by Capetonian » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:11 pm

The presidents of the European Union have declared that the bloc is “'way more stronger than any single country' as Britain prepares for Brexit tonight.
The three leaders warned Britain that if the UK diverged from Brussels’ rules after Brexit trade would suffer.
For whom?

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#5043 Post by OFSO » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:40 pm

Watching French TV, Macron has just said "Nothing will change for British residents in France after Brexit". The Spanish PM Sanchez said the same thing last year. Time to put the Panic Underpants back in the drawer.

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#5044 Post by llondel » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:55 pm

I don't get that, and never have. Sure, if you sell into a market then you have to meet their standards, same as the Chinese or Americans, or Brazilians have to. What they should not do is insist on the UK company behaving as if it's still within the EU when they don't impose similar requirements on companies in those other countries.

The only time there's a problem is if the UK set up rules that are in direct conflict with EU rules. An obvious one here is for eggs where the EU mandates that eggs must not be washed before they reach shops, whereas the US mandates that they must. Clearly if the UK changed sides on this (bad idea, I prefer the EU approach here) it would cause problems for those wanting to export eggs to the continent.

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#5045 Post by 4mastacker » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:53 pm

G-CPTN wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:40 pm
Gina Miller
No mention in that Wiki article about her alleged links to George Soros who was, allegedly, contributing funds towards her legal challenges.

To quote a favourite source of a certain unlamented Soros donates to anti-brexit campaign
It's always my fault - SWMBO

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#5046 Post by barkingmad » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:01 pm

Erewego, already badly drafted (or maliciously designed) UK legislation trends towards shafting the British fishing fleet.



I just hope the little boats are seaworthy enough to muster up a maritime equivalent of Les GiletsJaunes but by then it may be too late to restore some presence to the decimated UK fishing fleet?

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#5049 Post by BenThere » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:26 pm

I would think UK has regained sovereignty over its own fishing waters, and open access to international waters. Of all the things Brits have done well over the centuries, I think mastery of the seas stands foremost. Now you can go forth and apply those latent skills.

As a pat on the back, I'm totally on board with Brexit and excited about it finally coming to fruition. I see a golden age for the UK on the horizon as possible if the populace resists the siren song of the Left. What I hear in political season is the Left chanting, "we haven't destroyed society enough, let's destroy it some more!"

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#5050 Post by Woody » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:36 pm

I know everyone is getting all excited, but
The UK will continue to pay into the EU budget during the transition. This means existing schemes, paid for by EU grants, will continue to be funded.
Might delay Boris’s 40 hospitals :-o
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#5051 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:38 pm

Is it too late to change our minds?















Only joking!

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#5052 Post by Capetonian » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:44 pm

From a remainer:
"The UK will go from rule maker to rule taker overnight"

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#5053 Post by barkingmad » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:41 pm

Capetonian wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:44 pm
From a remainer:
"The UK will go from rule maker to rule taker overnight"
I thought we did that under John Major’s reign when we signed up for the Maastricht Treaty?

What the Remoaners have failed to accept that there was neither assent nor consent amongst the UK electorate for joining the superstate which was always the destination of the EUSSR. All the nations which currently constitute the bloc have been consistently lied to over the decades about important issues which ultimately were sold to the peasants behind the classic smoke and mirrors screens.

We’re hoping to leave a schlerotic and creaking alliance which is totally inflexible and unable to adapt and change as circumstances demand, the only satisfied customers of this failed Christmas club are global corporations. Despite their lobbying and Project Fear horror stories, democracy gave one country the chance to jump ship and to the consternation of the elite the UK took the opportunity to leave and become more independent. The Jocks should take a long hard look at the meaning of that word before they resume destruction of the centuries-old alliance.

I chose a beer brewed at one of the smallest fishing villages on the Northumberland coast to toast the event, the prospect of Belgian brew faded rapidly!

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Re: BREXIT - A Poll & Discussion

#5054 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:59 am

om15 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:27 pm
I am listening to Iain Dale talking to people on the telephone about how they intend to celebrate 2300 tomorrow.
My plan is to drink a bottle of Spitfire and look forward to the future of Great Britain.

What will you be doing?

Having had a damn good pissup at the two previous attempts at freedom, and having spent a magnificent fireworks party at the last one, I was almost bereft of fireworks for the momentous moment of 23:00 on actual Freedom Day.

Almost, but not quite. That became a bit of a theme, didn't it, boys and girls!

What is now not last night, we had a damn good pissup and at the stroke of 23:00 I let off an almost time-expired maroon which I had recently obtained legally from a ship in the Firth of Forth.

All totally legal. I needed, and have, a firearms certificate to take possession and to transport and to store and to use the thing.

I'd pre-informed HMCoastGuard and the Polis and NATS and the nursing home a mile or two away.

BANG!

We are free men on the land.

I'm loving it.

Now I have to liberate a free calf which will very shortly be struggling to breathe free.

The mother, on cctv which I'm monitoring while I blether here, is clearly in pain and about to give birth to an individual into freedom. Seems appropriate in the circumstances.


I'll get back to yer'all later.


Meanwhile, let's all celebrate Freedom Day.

:YMPARTY:

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#5055 Post by Slasher » Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:13 am

Plum it’s good to celebrate Brexit, but now comes the real hard work because IMO Brussels will hereafter try to fukk the UK (esp England) every chance it can. Hope I’m wrong but to me the EU pricks are a bunch of high school bullying cuntlery.

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Re: BREXIT - A Poll & Discussion

#5056 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:41 am

\well described.

I hope that we are all ready for them.

Sound mirrors; and Chain Home, and Chain Home Low, etc etc.

Bring 'em on.

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#5057 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:18 am

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#5058 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:26 am

BenThere wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:26 pm
I would think UK has regained sovereignty over its own fishing waters, and open access to international waters. Of all the things Brits have done well over the centuries, I think mastery of the seas stands foremost. Now you can go forth and apply those latent skills.
I was involved in Fisheries Protection before they got fishing rights. On one occasion a Nimrod arrested an illegal Spanish fisher. Having got the evidence they remained orbiting until a Fisheries Protection vessel from the Scottish agency DAFS could escort him to Stornoway. He pleaded guilty, the sum total he had to pay was over £500,000.

We probably have only one or two aircraft now and insufficient Naval ships to do that today.

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#5059 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:38 am

Capetonian wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:44 pm
From a remainer:
"The UK will go from rule maker to rule taker overnight"
But before we would do our best to mitigate problems and then rigorously enforce them, now we have the option of take or leave.

An example, I make this up, is day running lights on cars. The EU mandates these. Like them or loathe them we are stuck with them. We will be free to make them switchable. We might make them automatically dim. We might decide rear running lights are also a good idea. We might think it a good idea that brake lights, or at least high brake lights, go off after a car stops at traffic lights - that would apply to automatics.

No longer would we have to argue the case with a couple of dozen countries. Such new regulations could be a requirement for EU car makers to import into the UK. Cuts both ways.

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#5060 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:45 am

As an aside, I had hazard warning lights and seat belts fitted long before they became standard, reversing light too. I had a SAAB with front and rear day running lights; drivers would flash to tell me my light a were on. I added SAAB rear fogs and a high level brake light too.

All forerunners of modern standards, but today such evolution would probably be prohibited by the EU.

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