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Re: Chaos in Germany

#181 Post by OFSO » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:21 am

There's a meeting of the European Nations and Freedom group in Koblenz (D) tomorrow. Marine Le Pen was asked whether she'd be meeting Merkel. "No" she said "I'm going to meet Germany's future, not it's past".

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#182 Post by 500N » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:28 am

Chuks wrote:Says the guy who just cited both the NY Times and the Washington Post to prove that there was rioting in D.C. during the Inauguration ....


Only because you specifically cited them as NOT being on the first page of google.

Actually saw the video on the TV, then read the newspapers.

Either way, you can't have your cake and eat it, just accept the fact your Leftie luvvies held VIOLENT protests because they
didn't like the result of the DEMOCRATIC election. Just like Brexit, Scottish Referendum.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#183 Post by Chuks » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:49 am

Yeah, you better watch your step, you big, butch thing, you! Some luvvies might pounce and give you a real flogging with their Birkenstocks! That I want to see, you down on your back in the street with a gang of hairy-legged lesbians giving you a good seeing-to with their sandals. Where's your M-60 when you need it?

Look, dummy. You go on and on about the way that the mainstream news sources always lie, particularly what your orange hero likes to call "the failing NY Times," but here you go quoting some of those same sources. What next, you telling me what's happening in Germany by citing an article from the FAZ or Deutsche Welle as truthful?

When I do that sort of thing, referring to the mainstream news sources, it's usually lies. When you do it, though, it's the truth. Get real!

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#184 Post by Capetonian » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:26 pm

Go on chuk-up. Lose the debate and spew out the insults. Gosh, what a man you must be!

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#185 Post by Chuks » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:47 pm

You betcha, Pops! Women go into ovulation as I walk past. Look upon me with envy.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#186 Post by BenThere » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:31 pm

Like me, Chuks, you're probably to old to have to live through the world you seem to foster crashing in on you. Good luck if you stay in Germany. I see a bad moon rising.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#187 Post by OFSO » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:45 pm

German mechanised troops from 122 Battalion are marching into Lithuania. Well, not exactly marching, being transported. An unspecified number of Leopard 2 tanks & personnel carriers. That should make Putin's lot tremble.

(Source: today's "Times" page 60.)

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#188 Post by OFSO » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:33 pm

Germany starts PAYING asylum-seekers up to £1,000 to go home
GERMANY has started paying asylum-seekers up to £1,000 to voluntarily return to their home countries.
By Simon Osborne
PUBLISHED: 19:59, Thu, Feb 2, 2017 | UPDATED: 22:20, Thu, Feb 2, 2017

Berlin plans to allocate nearly £34million for people willing to take part in the StartHilfe Plus programme was launched this week by the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) in cooperation with the International Organization for Migration (IOM).
Under the scheme, any participant over 12-years-old will receive a £1,000 payment if they withdraw their application for asylum.
Rejected asylum-seekers who decide not to appeal the decision in court will get a £688 hand-out.
Families of more than four people will receive an extra £430 on top of the initial amount for each member. Children under 12 will also be entitled to an increased amount.

Given the already-demonstrated German inability to deal with Africans arriving with no papers and a devious frame of mind, I wonder how many immigrants will happily take the largess and depart - only to turn around and come back under a different name. As one German said to me "they all look the same, don't they".

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#189 Post by Chuks » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:47 pm

You don't suppose that the German authorities will fingerprint these people who all look the same, do you? Or do their fingerprints also all look the same?

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#190 Post by OFSO » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:19 pm

You don't suppose that the German authorities will fingerprint these people who all look the same, do you?

Yes, they do. But the copies will NOT be stored on a central database but on the Lande database. SOP. In my time in Germany (groan) you wouldn't believe how many Germans were claiming for this and that in different Lande. Or living in one and paying less car (and other) taxes as resident there...etc. Germany is NOT a centralised nation. Crime committed in Hesse, Baverian police next door not interested.

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#191 Post by Chuks » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:46 pm

Actually, the Germans are finally working on exactly that, a central database. It has taken too long, but they are getting there.

Years ago they fished a dead Nigerian out of a public swimming pool. He had been horsing around along with two of his friends, and when he scragged it they legged it, leaving him for the Bademeister to deal with.

It turned out that he'd been registered in three different states under three different names, thus collecting three times what he was supposed to get in public funds! He was showing up on three different days each month to get his money, and he was traveling for free on the Deutsche Bahn to get there!

They had a recent case where the cops were looking for a fugitive, so that they put his picture in the paper ... with his features blanked out. True story, that one ....

Repeat after me, "The Germans are just Italians in a bad mood!"

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#192 Post by OFSO » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:21 pm


Angela Merkel to spend BILLIONS on foreign aid in addition to facing a £70bn migrant bill


ANGELA Merkel has kicked off a foreign aid splurge which could see Germany overtake Britain as the world’s second highest spender at the same time as shelling out billions on housing newly arrived migrants.
By Nick Gutteridge in Brussels
PUBLISHED: 14:54, Wed, Feb 8, 2017 | UPDATED: 17:22, Wed, Feb 8, 2017

The Chancellor has signalled her intention to increase international aid spending to record levels even as the cost of her refugee policies spirals to £70 billion.

German spending on overseas payments skyrocketed to 19.4 billion US dollars in 2016 according to estimates by the SEEK Development think tank - an astonishing 40 per cent hike in just two years. And the budget for Berlin’s aid ministry, the BMZ, has also ballooned by a bank-busting 15 per cent to 8.5 billion euros for this year, up from 7.4 billion in 2016.

The spending increases come in part because Mrs Merkel is refusing to offset the rising cost of housing refugees as part of her international aid budget as other countries do.

Germany is currently the third largest global contributor of international aid behind only Britain and the US, but it is on course to pass the UK within the next couple of years.

Berlin has already pledged to contribute an additional 8.3 billion euros to its foreign aid pot by 2019, whilst Britain’s yearly contributions are set to remain roughly stable at around £14bn a year.

However, critics will say Merkel is taking a massive political risk at a time of growing frustration over the impact of her open door migration policy amongst ordinary German voters.

The beleaguered Chancellor has recently slumped behind socialist rival Martin Schulz in the polls, and she is also facing stiff opposition from the anti-immigrant Alternative fur Deutschland, and she is now facing a frantic fight for her political future, with people’s anger about high levels of immigration threatening to make her just another establishment figure to be toppled.

The German government sees international aid as an opportunity to increase its influence on the world stage, especially at a time when the US is becoming more insular under Donald Trump.

When Germany’s aid budget was announced last November, Dr Gerd Muller said: "Through this 2017 budget, the German Parliament is sending a clear signal that international crises cannot be resolved without contributions from development policy.

“We have already demonstrated that development policy can make a quick impact. Through our cash-for-work programme, we have already created 40,000 jobs in the context of the Syrian crisis.

“But new answers and increased efforts are also needed in Africa. There, we focus on vocational training and improved capacity in the agricultural sector."

With the new US President Donald Trump likely to slash America’s foreign aid programme - he has said only countries with compatible values should receive funding - it is possible Germany could soon become the world’s biggest donor.

Even if Mrs Merkel loses the election it is likely that the country’s aid programme will continue to grow under Mr Schulz, who has expressed repeated support for spending cash overseas.

Recent opinion polls show there has been a collapse in support for the Chancellor and a surge in favour of her rival, who is a political outsider in Germany despite his high-profile former role as European Parliament chief.

One survey for BILD newspaper even put Mr Schulz slightly ahead of Mrs Merkel by 31 per cent to 30 per cent. The pair will battle for the leadership of the EU’s biggest economy in a general election to be held this autumn.
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Re: Chaos in Germany

#193 Post by Chuks » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:58 pm

Two things from Germany:

1. Martin Schulz appears to be able to mount a much stronger challenge to Angela Merkel than any other SPD candidate would have been able to, so that Merkel might lose this next election for another term as Chancellor.

2. Martin Schulz is from the SPD, the German Social Democratic Party. He is further to the left than Angela Merkel!

3, Meanwhile, the far-right in Germany is in complete disarray. The poor old NPD is on its last legs, while the AfD, its moral (?) successor has just seen its leader, Frauke Petry, rejected as its single candidate for the Chancellorship.

No, wait ... three things from Germany ....

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#194 Post by BenThere » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:08 pm

Great! Now put your mind at rest about those skinhead thugs you know are waiting in the bushes to do their dastardly, racist and xenophobic work. Protect the Islamists in your midst. Clearly, Germans are rising to defend the beauty and justice of mass immigration and refugee accommodation. The future is yours, Chuks. Things will only get better, now.

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#195 Post by Chuks » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:32 am

Ben, if you have some spare time, come on over to Germany. I guarantee that I can put you in a situation where you will get the Trump-loving crap knocked right out of you by white German neo-Nazi thugs. That might persuade you that such people are just as much a risk as criminal migrants are. You seem to find it merely amusing to have this obvious xenophobe as our President, since you are not a foreigner. (That some of your ancestors certainly were, as was Trump's own mother ... what of that?)

Come to Germany to see what it can feel like to be a foreigner, when that might wake you up to the risks of xenophobia to the foreigner. Those are direct risks. The risks you choose to ignore that Trump poses are merely indirect risks to you, a US citizen. You merely are stood on the firing line. Come down-range to see how it looks at the other end before you start spouting off so cheerily.

They caught a migrant just the other day with seven identities! (Years ago they found a dead Nigerian with three identities, after he had drowned in a public pool after horsing around with two of his friends.) This migrant made a bundle with a simple scam, just showing up at seven different offices under seven different names to collect seven times the migrant subsidy!

Someone should do something about this! No ... wait ... they just did! They caught the scammer because of his fingerprints and ID photo, I guess, so no big deal, with the authorities saying that he "simply exploited a loophole in the system."

Disappointingly, he did not use the money to buy drugs, guns, or explosives. He just sent most of it back to his family. (I read about this in the local German papers, but I can't find it on the English-language internet. I guess the Sun and Breitbart do not do their own research very thoroughly.)

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#196 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:21 am

such people are just as much a risk as criminal migrants are.


Which I proves what some people are saying: you don't need to import more troubles than you already have. Plus by allowing immigrants to come to Germany unchecked - as they cross the border- you help the extreme right to gain legitimacy and percentage points on gallops.

Disappointingly, he did not use the money to buy drugs, guns, or explosives. He just sent most of it back to his family.
. What he did with the money is irrelevant - given that it come in an illegal way.

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#197 Post by Capetonian » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:41 am

In many ways, it can be said that Mad Merkel and her acolytes have done much to further the cause of the right wing anti-immigration parties throughout Europe. That can only be a good thing. The law of unexpected consequences, unexpected at least by the toadying sycophantic do-gooding left.

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#198 Post by Chuks » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:06 am

The German far right hates rappers too, even white ones. Slim Shady, Vanilla Ice, and Easy D too would all have a tough time here were they to wear their customary garb and bling in certain areas of Lower Saxony.

You have been warned, some members of the "the toadying sycophantic ... [right]!" Yes, I am "officially putting [you] on notice!" When you visit Germany, go in mufti, unless you want to get your bell rung by some of the same folks whose rise you are applauding, those who belong to "the right wing anti-immigration parties." Most of these guys are into direct action, but some combine that with politics. Yup, beating people up, running prostitution, running for office, doing homosexuality on the down-low while spouting homophobia ... the German far right is highly diverse so give them a great big hug. You first!

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#199 Post by Cacophonix » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:21 pm

You have been warned, some members of the "the toadying sycophantic ... [right]!" Yes, I am "officially putting [you] on notice!" When you visit Germany, go in mufti, unless you want to get your bell rung by some of the same folks whose rise you are applauding, those who belong to "the right wing anti-immigration parties." Most of these guys are into direct action, but some combine that with politics. Yup, beating people up, running prostitution, running for office, doing homosexuality on the down-low while spouting homophobia ... the German far right is highly diverse so give them a great big hug. You first!


Apart from the usual hypocrisy and unpleasantness, I don't expect the German right are any less xenophobic than some of the usual suspects here, so little Englanders abroad midst their German kin might just be treated with the very same disdain that most right wingers here in the UK have for foreigners, immigrants and the like. Both sides of the same, ugly, often rather stupid coin in fact. They deserve each other!

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#200 Post by Cacophonix » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:20 pm

On a lighter note (or maybe a darker one for the USA) it was chaotic on an Hawaiian tennis court when the wrong German anthem was played and sung...

The United States Tennis Association has apologised after a version of Germany’s historic national anthem associated with the Nazi regime was performed before a Fed Cup match.
A male soloist at the match on the Hawaiian island of Maui sang the verse beginning with the lines “Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles, uber alles in der Welt”, which translates as “Germany, Germany, above all, above all in the world”.

Although the words were written long before the Nazis ruled Germany, they became closely identified with Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich in the period before and during the second world war.

The offending verse, which traditionally began the anthem, is now considered anachronistic.

The third verse of the 19th century Deutschlandlied, the words of which were written in 1841, is the only one performed in modern-day Germany and is officially classed as the national anthem.

The German team member Andrea Petkovic was disturbed by Saturday’s performance, saying on the German federation’s website: “It was the worst experience that has ever happened to me – horrifying and shocking.”


Of those old Prussian anthems and marching tunes that the Nazis purloined this was always a favourite of mine.

[bbvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_6AQA4uzD0[/bbvideo]

Always good to stomp around one's bedroom in one's underpants and traditional boiled leather Pickelhaube to this song!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... chlandlied

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