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#5481 Post by boing » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:44 am

In a place like the ME with its myriad of traditional enemies you can always start a war next week if you want to. Africa too. All you have to do is support one side against the other and arm them so that they feel they are sure to win and they will cut any sort of deal. How do you think the slave trade worked?

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#5482 Post by Boac » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:05 am

The concept of 'getting out' of the ME makes sense, but it does need to be done by someone with at least half a brain. Therein lies the problem.

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#5483 Post by Boac » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:53 am

Well, girls - it doesn't get better. https://www.itv.com/news/2019-10-17/don ... to-ankara/

"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan put US President Donald Trump's letter "in the bin", the BBC has been told."

Maybe somebody will put the Chump in a bin?

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#5484 Post by Slasher » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:58 am

Humour break! :)


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#5485 Post by Boac » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:13 am

Now - there was a President.

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#5486 Post by FD2 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:13 am

Here is duh letter:


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Impressive huh? Is this real or fake news? :-o

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#5487 Post by Boac » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:42 am

It really is time that the Chump was locked up, preferably in a padded cell.

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#5488 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:16 pm

The serious irony is that the 25th is itself nuts.

It would replace Chump with Ha'penny, who is a Christian Zionist nut-job who actively seeks the end of worlds and Armageddon so he can be re-united with an unemployed jewish carpenter on Cloud Nine.

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#5489 Post by llondel » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:21 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:16 pm
The serious irony is that the 25th is itself nuts.

It would replace Chump with Ha'penny, who is a Christian Zionist nut-job who actively seeks the end of worlds and Armageddon so he can be re-united with an unemployed jewish carpenter on Cloud Nine.
He's free to go any time he wants, no need for anyone else to accompany him.

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#5490 Post by OFSO » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:43 pm

The slave trade was only possible because the rulers of African states had a large population which, being amazingly greedy, they saw as suitable to exchange for money. How unlike today where wise benevolent African rulers spend all their state's income on improving living conditions for their citizens.

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#5491 Post by Boac » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:11 pm

Just look at the consistency here
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- followed by:

President Donald Trump tweeted:

'My warmest condolences to the family and many friends of Congressman Elijah Cummings.

'I got to see first hand the strength, passion and wisdom of this highly respected political leader. His work and voice on so many fronts will be very hard, if not impossible, to replace!'


A clear indication of totally confused and unstable person. Bravo for Pelosi giving him a dressing down in front of everyone, like a naughty schoolboy. Give him 100 lines (and spare Sharpies, of course..........) and send him to bed with no Hamberders.

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#5493 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:16 pm

OFSO wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:43 pm
The slave trade was only possible because the rulers of African states had a large population which, being amazingly greedy, they saw as suitable to exchange for money.
Actually the populations were quite small, so they didn't sell their own people into slavery. They captured the people of the tribe next door and sold them instead.

As for greed: the most money was made by the three way trading system whereby British traders took manufactured goods to Africa; sold then in exchange for slaves; sold the slaves in the Caribbean and Murricane colonies; bought cheap raw materials such as cotton, sugar molasses and cotton; sold that stuff back in Blighty; used the cotton to make textiles; rinse and repeat.

Cities such as Bristol, Liverpool, Glasgow, Edinburgh, and of course the City of London, became immensely rich on that triangular trade. The wealth of Murricane cities such as Charleston only represented a fraction of one leg of that stool.

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#5494 Post by Woody » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:53 pm

Quite a few streets in Liverpool named after Slave traders, including Penny Lane, not many people know that :D
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#5495 Post by Alisoncc » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:07 pm

‘Hanky-panky’? Traders pocket ‘stunning’ profits after Trump’s comments on trade talks goose the stock market
‘There is definite hanky-panky going on, to the world’s financial markets’ detriment. This is abysmal.’

That’s one longtime CME trader’s troubling assessment of what he views as stock-market manipulation the likes of which he hasn’t seen since al Qaeda cashed in before initiating the Sept. 11 attacks.

In Vanity Fair’s deep dive into “the fantastically profitable mystery of the Trump chaos trades,” William Cohan takes a look at how some timely presidential pumping of the stock market made some futures traders billions of dollars.

One windfall, in particular, triggered Twitter TWTR, -1.03% buzz. On June 28, a trader, or group of traders, snatched up 420,000 September e-minis, which amounted to about 40% of the total trading volume, shortly before the closing bell. Trump the following weekend emerged from a meeting with President Xi to say the trade talks were “back on track.” The market cheered the announcement and stocks rallied enough to apparently turn that trade into a $1.8 billion profit.

That was just one of many that drew strong reactions across social media:
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#5496 Post by barkingmad » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:18 pm



IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS REMINDING.

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#5497 Post by Boac » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:59 pm

Methinks the vultures are circling.

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#5498 Post by Boac » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:00 am

OK - if I have this right, the 'brilliant' solution to the Turkish Syrian problem just requires the Kurds, Russians and Syrian forces to quietly give up their territory, but not invite them to the discussions about it? Well if it works.................

If I was on 'that' side, I would LOVE a 120 hour ceasefire.

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#5499 Post by Boac » Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:43 pm

Chump dun good!

"Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that Donald Trump's recent letter to him broke with "diplomatic and political courtesy."

The letter "was not in line with diplomatic and political courtesy. We will not forget this lack of respect. This is not a priority for us. But when the time comes we would like it to be known that we will take the necessary steps."

The extraordinary missive warned the Turkish leader not to be a "fool" over Turkish plans to start a military campaign in northern Syria."

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