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Re: He does't know his Bardeen from his Shockley

#5241 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:02 am

ian16th wrote:
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Mustn't forget the product of corner shop tea rooms; Lyons Electronic Office.
True, the LEO was also used by British Steel and many other sectors of British industry and was also exported to South Africa (perceiving that you live there ian16th) where it was used successfully by one of the mining houses in Johannesburg for some years. One of the early programmers on the original LEO project, Leo Fantl having emigrated to SA to support the LEO computer. The LEO company was sold to the English Electric company of Lightning aircraft fame.

LEO history and dramatis personae to be found here

Note how many of the team and personnel were associated in one or way or another with aviation and the RAF and other services as well.

This very good book addresses some of the reasons why a palpably superior British product to the US equivalents at the time didn't sell as well as those peddled by the perfidious septics and flower pot men and was destined to become an interesting historical footnote in the story of the evolution of the commercial computer.

A Computer Called Leo

As an aside, the Ferranti Mark 1 was purchased by Avro and was used in the design of the Vulcan. By the time the TSR2 was being designed, an IBM mainframe was being used in running the aerodynamic simulations on the design (written in the newly developed Fortran language). As history notes, the TSR2 programme was scuppered by many of the same sad and stupid political reasons that scuppered the British lead in computer science (and so many other industries), including the negative role played by the USA in undermining its commercial competitors. One of my university lecturers worked on the TSR2 project but that is another story.
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Re: The US Hamster Wheel

#5243 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:36 am

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Greenland video
Interesting factual documentary.
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#5244 Post by Slasher » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:33 am

My point though Gob is just because Trump brought it up, does it justify sticking another jab into the POTUS simply because he said it?

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Re: The US Hamster Wheel

#5245 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:18 am

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My point though Gob is just because Trump brought it up, does it justify sticking another jab into the POTUS simply because he said it?
I got your point Captain but Trump's inappropriate and undiplomatic method of couching such an idea (as old as it is) followed by his childish and grossly insulting and undiplomatic response to a refusal makes him fair game to global derision.
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Re: He does't know his Bardeen from his Shockley

#5246 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:33 am

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As an aside, the Ferranti Mark 1 was purchased by Avro and was used in the design of the Vulcan. By the time the TSR2 was being designed, an IBM mainframe was being used in running the aerodynamic simulations on the design (written in the newly developed Fortran language).
Correction = not an IBM mainframe but an IBM supercomputer that was leased from IBM to run mathematical modelling routines at the Atomic Weapons Establishment at Aldermaston, where time was booked out sometimes to other defence related projects like the TSR-2. In fact the IBM computer was replaced by a British designed Atlas supercomputer due in no small part to the fact the the IBM 7030 Stretch was a woeful failure as a supercomputer although, to be fair, its design was revolutionary and trialed features that made the IBM Sytem/360 mainframe hugely successful.

The British Titan and Atlas supercomputers gave sterling service until Seymour Cray (a very bright American) cornered the market with his company for a while.

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#5247 Post by ian16th » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:53 am

Stretch was built from the same technology as the IBM 1401/1440/1620, but with an architecture that was a prototype for S/360.
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#5248 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:04 am

ian16th wrote:
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Stretch was built from the same technology as the IBM 1401/1440/1620, but with an architecture that was a prototype for S/360.
True they were all 2nd generation computer technology. Fascinating subject but I digress.

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#5249 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pm

An 18-carat solid gold toilet has been stolen in a burglary at Blenheim Palace.

The artwork was taken by a gang from the Woodstock stately home during an overnight break-in at about 04:50 BST, Thames Valley Police said.

It was part of an exhibition by Italian conceptual artist Maurizio Cattelan that opened on Thursday.
The toilet - entitled America - has not been found but a 66-year-old man has been arrested.


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#5250 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:27 pm

The crapper has been sold to Trump by well known fence Auric Stool!
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#5251 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:51 pm

A spokesman for Blenheim Palace said that they had nothing to go on.

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#5252 Post by Slasher » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:21 am

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
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I got your point Captain but Trump's inappropriate and undiplomatic method of couching such an idea (as old as it is) followed by his childish and grossly insulting and undiplomatic response to a refusal makes him fair game to global derision.
Fair enough Gob, as I believe all politicians (with very few exceptions) are fair game for any form of public ridicule.

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Re: The US Hamster Wheel

#5253 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:39 am

Slasher wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:21 am
TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:18 am
I got your point Captain but Trump's inappropriate and undiplomatic method of couching such an idea (as old as it is) followed by his childish and grossly insulting and undiplomatic response to a refusal makes him fair game to global derision.
Fair enough Gob, as I believe all politicians (with very few exceptions) are fair game for any form of public ridicule.
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#5254 Post by Slasher » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:46 am

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The sheer weight alone must have entailed masterful logistics in nickin' it. Problem then is how does one flog it off? I don't think a small ad on EBay would work, so it'd have to be melted down into 10kg blocks and sold to China.

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#5255 Post by Bob » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:26 am

Everyone states that is gold and assumes solid gold, It's an art piece and like most all modern art a facade, I very much doubt you would have to scratch far beneath it's surface to find a different base material
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#5256 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:11 pm

“We have the cleanest water, the cleanest air that we’ve ever had in the history of our country, right now,” Trump said.

The president corrected himself after saying that the media “would get me on that one.”

“Let’s say the history of our country over the last 25 years,” he opined. “I would say they probably had cleaner water, cleaner air because there was nobody here. So I have to be very accurate.”


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Brett Kavanaugh should start suing people for liable, .............."

If it wasn't so dangerous it would be funny.

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#5257 Post by BenThere » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:02 pm

If you think President Trump is foolish, have a review of candidate Joe Biden's statements over his entire career. Not that you'd be interested in that.

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#5258 Post by Undried Plum » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:40 pm

Pompeo is somewhat implausibly claiming that the Houthi attack on Abqaiq was carried out by Iran.

Chump is oddly silent on the matter.

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#5259 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:17 pm

Ben wrote:Not that you'd be interested in that.
- hey, Ben! You are right. Well done. Top score for irrelevance. By the way, Biden is not POTUS, is he - or have I missed something?

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Re: The US Hamster Wheel

#5260 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:22 pm

I see that midst all his crimes and character failings, Trump is also a Scottish pancake thief... =))

Give me back my pancake ye wee boaby.
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