The US Hamster Wheel

[Cacophonix]

Slasher, I don't often disagree with you, but I think your characterization 'bag of sh!t though he be as a man' isn't a fair assessment of him.

He didn't have to seek the office. He had more money than he could possibly spend, the finest penthouse in Manhattan, a marvelous and beautiful wife, a prosperous business empire, a fine family - what more is there? He saw major problems in the US and decided to try to do something about it because he loves America.

As to the current controversy, I honestly think he would happily stand in the rain to honor and pay respects to soldiers and law enforcement heroes. If you've watched him through the first two years of his presidency, his heart is obviously strongly with them, which is a big part of his appeal to me, a refreshing about face from our last president.

What utter crap!

Before he decided to run for President, he was grabbing every pussy he could, slipping the slimy one to somebody called Stormy Daniels (amongst many others no doubt), and not his rent an Eastern trophy chick wife.

While conning some more poor idiots out of their hard earned dollars at some fake "university" and running his businesses ragged while cheating subcontractors wherever he could, he then saw the biggest con trick of all that he could play on the fools in US society when he realised what a fillip being president might be to his flagging family fortune which was made by his father, who like Trump was not a particularly nice man, but who unlike Orange Donald, was a lot more financially successful!

One can almost hear the ersatz music and feel the faux leatherette when you coo such utter cloying nonsense BenThere. Trump fancies the military only in the sense that some South America despot general likes military parades, medals and adulation midst the flatulent blare of bugles and crowds of poor brain dead peons and simpering political toadies like you!

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Aagh!

Caco

[Seenenough]

I have the feeling that French Wine will soon cost quite a bit more to import into the US in the near future.

[Seenenough]

But fear not Caco will make up for the difference.

[BenThere]

Fortunately there are adequate supplies of US wine, assuming our California supply doesn't burn up this week, to assure our happy hour tipples of fine cabernet.

Caco's rants are fueled by other, more potent spirits, I suspect. I maintain that when one loses the capacity for gentlemanly discourse, it's a form of surrender. Trump aversion is a wide-spread disease, best treated by therapy focusing on calm logic, cool-headed assessment, and good intentions.

[Stoneboat]

I think he should've attended in his position as POTUS, bag of sh!t though he be as a man.

Dunno about the bag of *****, but he shouldn't have given the ceremony a pass. I refuse to believe there was no plan B in case of bad weather.

The point I was trying to make was to illustrate the basic dishonesty of the media when it comes to anything Trumpian. I offered the fact they decided to use a picture of Trudeau at a ceremony that didn't even take place in Europe, and better than a year ago at that as proof. Trudeau's presence at any military ceremony comes across as a mockery in light of the following statement he made in an interview with the New York Times in 2015:

<<Late last year, Justin Trudeau told the New York Times that Canada is becoming a new kind of country, not defined by our history or European national origins, but by a “pan-cultural heritage”.

“There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,” Trudeau said, concluding that he sees Canada as “the first post-national state.”

Even the New York Times called the suggestion “radical.” >>

Fcukwit.

[Cacophonix]

Fortunately there are adequate supplies of US wine, assuming our California supply doesn't burn up this week, to assure our happy hour tipples of fine cabernet.

Caco's rants are fueled by other, more potent spirits, I suspect. I maintain that when one loses the capacity for gentlemanly discourse, it's a form of surrender. Trump aversion is a wide-spread disease, best treated by therapy focusing on calm logic, cool-headed assessment, and good intentions.

Fueled with nothing but the spirit of righteousness and amusment at some of the piffle you come out with BenThere. As for the calm calculus of applied fairness and reason, I gave up on applying that with respect to your utterances, after some of the rubbish you attempted to pass off as historical "fact" about Korea some months back while you were still purporting to be a "serious" commentator on historical fact. I have ceased to take you or anything you say in the slightest bit seriously. Take my rants as a semi tongue in cheek raspberry at you and Trump my friend, masquerading as you do as Smithers to Trump's Monty Burns.

The only "fact", as opposed to the tendentious prevarications associated with you, is that you are the master of the dog whistle slur and nuanced and seemingly reasonable lie. You are a perfect archetype of a Trump supporter and will be treated with derision by me, however hard you try to sound reasonable, the aggrieved party or logical or whatever else you wish to appear to be!

Caco

[Slasher]

Slasher, I don't often disagree with you, but I think your characterization 'bag of sh!t though he be as a man' isn't a fair assessment of him.

I'm well aware of the mission of the popular media to poke and give bad press (including any fake that be gotten away with) at Trump wherever and whenever possible Ben, and am aware of the accomplishments he has done as POTUS in the past 2 years.

As I've said in this forum before, Mr Trump - the man - is a prick. One only has to research disinterested sources to discover how he has treated others to gain profit (financial and personal). Caco will recall me also saying that rampant capitalism can be just as destructive as rampant socialism, although capitalism is capable of being tempered by certain rights.

Point I'm making is that as POTUS there are certain acts he must do in that capacity. He didn't attend the ceremony and the lame excuse he gave for not doing so just doesn't wash. I respect the Office and certainly acknowledge the positive accomplishments (both reported and unreported) he has made as POTUS - but not the man. It's the same as a military salute - one is salutatiing the rank and uniform but not the person wearing it.

If you disagree Ben then so be it. If we agreed on everything then nothing can be subsequently discovered or learnt.

[BenThere]

I don't think it's plausible that President Trump just decided he didn't want to go to the ceremony and tried to pass it off as a security/military call. He had to have been cognizant that it would be examined and if possible torn apart by a hostile media if he wasn't being honest.

One of his strengths is that he is a hard scrabble fighter. He's used to playing hard ball and that's what he does, which is a key talent to have as a Republican in the White House. While he has a past fraught with adversarial skirmishes, most of which he won or he wouldn't have survived the Manhattan real estate and New Jersey casino milieu in which he thrived in the end, it's interesting to note that among the participants in his very successful reality show, The Apprentice, his advocates among the participants far outnumber his detractors, and that was way before there was any talk about the presidency. Consider also that his family, children under a couple of marriages, a few ex-wives - all seem to have a positive view of the man.

I totally agree on the salute - you salute in respect for the position and rank, and I, too, have often done so when I detested the man behind the uniform or position, but respected the position he held. That's why I always refer to our former president as President Obama. Actually I thought he was basically a decent guy, just a disastrous president. He's probably more of a decent guy than President Trump, but not nearly in the same league as a president. Churchill and Thatcher were not regarded by some as the most kind-hearted, but they were the best where it mattered.

[Boac]

"He’s just a bull carrying his own china shop with him when­ever he travels the world,” "

Has to be the best comment about President Chump yet.

[Cacophonix]

"He’s just a bull carrying his own china shop with him when­ever he travels the world,” "

Has to be the best comment about President Chump yet.

He is also full of bull as well!

Caco

[Seenenough]

We are in for a year of entertainment watching the Democrats sorting out who will take Trump on in 2020.

We are also going to see a huge squabble over the next few weeks as to who fills the position af AG,both acting and permanent .I suspect its going to end up much like the Kavanaugh debacle.

[Boac]

Wot about Kelly? Would the last one out please turn off the lights?

[Boac]

I've just seen 'Mercedes Schlapp' (she definitely needs one) - apparently a 'Senior White House Communications Advisor' on Faux News. (BTW, is that another name for a German car crash?)

Chump is obviously running out of lackies to put in office - this one cannot even pronounce the French surname Macron.................

Apparently "the reason for scrapping the journey to the Aisne-Marne American cemetery came down to safety: the President's Marine One helicopter cannot fly in low cloud cover". I would suggest Chump boots out his heli-drivers as well as everyone else and gets someone who can. Best let applicants see how it is done by the British..... Marines? Bunch of pussies. (Chump knows about them.)



It's odd how everyone else got there, isn't it? Including poor old Kelly - in the rain, too.

[Seenenough]

CNN is very quiet about the billion dollar tax break that the Democrats have just given to the richest man in the world who happens to be a big time supporter.

[Stoneboat]

Grab her by the pu$$y!
Whack her upside the head!

[Slasher]

I only get a black screen on that TMZ link.

[Stoneboat]

I only get a black screen on that TMZ link.

Hmmm... try this one.


Michael Avenatti arrested for domestic abuse.

[Seenenough]

Ben-It seems that he partisan ,billion dollar ,tax breaks that Amazon will get are of no interest.

[BenThere]

Karma comes around though, as now Amazon has also made major investments in Blue states, and as we all know, Democrats and the media will turn abruptly upon you should they perceive a political/power advantage.

Amazon made a mistake. They should have gone to Texas, Oklahoma or South Carolina.

[Jetex Jim]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... costa-pass

A federal judge has ruled in favor of CNN and temporarily restored White House press access for reporter Jim Acosta, in a blow to the Trump administration.

CNN sued the White House this week to demand the immediate return of Acosta’s press credentials after his media pass was revoked following a high-profile press conference standoff with Donald Trump.